Buy The Dip

Bloomberg is just a convenient method to monitor markets/news. Good for a laugh too ( and Katie )


All my plays this month so far have been domestic income based, so the capital changes will be reflected on open tomoz. However I don't plan to cash in, building up a separate income portfolio.

Cheers lapsy ... I won't be doing that, brain in overload .. I'll be in my dressing gown in 5 minutes

Cider, you pay the sub for Bloomberg ?

Probably through sky ?

Just the channel running in the background. If I go full time, perhaps

Actually I don't mind it

Schwab network not too bad during US market hours either - worth a look and free stream

https://schwabnetwork.com/

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Nice to get a bit of luck, it's what we need, as punters, from time to time.

Ain't that the truth


Another mad day in the Trump era

Not sure I'd be getting carried away injecting fresh funds though
May get more impetus through Asia session but risks still remain and recession still on cards

Lot of big names have broken chart structure and remain below their 200 day moving averages especially tech - NVDA AMZN MSFT

Long way to go

US inflation numbers tmrw 13:30

No logic to the panic buying at all. They even bought TLRY Could be at least in part derivative driven. And how exactly do monster tracker funds remain accurate to the benchmark when it flips 7% in 10 minutes. Their algorithms must just kick in automatically.

Also government bonds have not responded in the same way. By rights equities should correct to the downside once reality sinks in. Not that much has changed. 

Obviously, how sterling denominated equities go on open tomorrow is interesting, like it all is atm. Not a pretty picture for Rachel from accounts.

https://s3.tradingview.com/snapshots/i/iOz0agmR.png

Sea of green !

One of the biggest 1 day up moves in SP500 in history

^ the username on there (iamPleb) is not myself thankfully


Been watching the US 10 year yield too Cider - has given way a bit today but something pretty hairy going on with bond markets

We shouldn't forget China still own a lot of treasuries (about 20%) and there has been spec they've been offloading again.. also US gov debt set to mature within next year, not sure exactly, but that is mahoosive- over 7 trillion$ !

Have read several places that should the 10 year spike and stick over 5% all hell could break loose

Looking like risk off in the US today as expected, very early doors. Not quite time for the excitement to dissipate yet!

something pretty hairy going on with bond markets

it's lack of confidence in government rather than the economy - similar to liz truss

Doesn't say much for Starmer

The corollary with the UK in late 2023 is manipulating the market to try and engineer a change of policy. This is what happens if they let a lot of paper go to foreigners, only themselves to blame.

we haven't see the market react so badly to potus economic decisions since nixon

there was a US treasury auction yesterday of 10 years and there was a big demand. suggesting that the market on existing paper was being manipulated.

Just like the BoE did to try and get rid of KK

Any evidence for that? can’t believe people who make wild, paranoid assertions with no evidence.

The clown show continues - making it up as he goes along.

Any evidence for that? can’t believe people who make wild, paranoid assertions with no evidence.


there's no audit trail of general trading. So no. Hypothesising on market moves are just that. Nobody can prove why markets move one way or another. You will however definitely find evidence of the BoE dumping gilts on the market, when gilts were under pressure way back in 2023. When they (extraordinarily) claimed that market conditions were settled.

Nasdaq in REVERSE gear
As expected
Tesla down 9%
246

Probably Chinas restriction of Hollywoods films having sum effect

By rights equities should correct to the downside once reality sinks in

My work here is done :)

Dow down 2000 points
Get extra GEARS

Not a buyer in sight

SP500 went -6.98%

There's a circuit breaker triggered at -7% and market closes for 15 mins

Wouldn't look good

should come in around 5095 sp500 (7% from previous days close if that much down before 3pm et)

holding

do you have a long term buy point, cl?

I'm thinking of putting a toe gently in the water soon.

I'm sure you're watching the 10 year again, more fun and games. 'they' are playing with the $ too. which doesn't come cheap

10 year creeping higher again and gold is bid to old boots

this is telling us something I think


Yep, lack of confidence in gov but there's more to this possibly .. might be a liquidity issue hovering


sp500 bouncing

Given natural human endeavour,progress,inflation.

All markets will grow. It’s just evolution,progress.

But the traders need the crashes.

So
Dot com
Banking crisis
Now trump.

They need excuses,to explain why your investment ,pension  hasn’t hit targets, because the real reason is,their fees,commission.to manage the small profit,rather than the big profit.

A class 6 seller at Southwell is probably a safer gambling opportunity,than the stock market.

i'm trickling in a little more than I normally would with spare cash into tracker etfs - buying global stocks at the prices they were 12 months ago - this nonsense will end soon enough

one of the things about this market fall is that it's accompanied by a pound strengthening against the dollar - it's nearly always the other way round

Not getting married to any precise levels on the indices in this environment Cider but looking back on the charts for history we made a low in sp500 last week of 4805 which also happened to be exactly the previous all time high in jan 2022 before we fell away - classic old resistance now turned support ( also exactly a 50% retracement of the past 30 month range 3493-6140 ).. uncanny how these technicals play out sometimes


It's a huge level which would be a great buy area - couldn't blame you for using that as a gauge for averaging into weakness back towards there - will we see it again ?  fark knows

but if we lose it as support there's a whole lot of space down there

Trump talking now

Trummp currently holding live wh cabinet meeting
Still talking LIES

Let me guess, tariffs are beautiful, i’m so great, the greatest in the history of the world.

woof
up she goes

500 spiking again

fun times

chasing perfection is an enemy.

I'm considering just about 10% at the moment.

UK should be tanked again am unless something weird happens, so more cherry picking high yield in the morning for my buy and hold income portfolio, hopefully.

down she goes

welcome to the casino


yep tops and bottoms are for the birds - steady eddy and dollar cost average etc - scale 'em in and let 'em soak

narrative can change on a dime and this will be going on for a very long time - lots of different angles in play

Must talking
What a
WA NK ER

Cider, do you buy individual stocks or moreso trackers/etfs etc ?

I'm on multiple platforms, but typically 212 for individual holdings and IE for etf

Japan dumped usa bonds, they are in clique with Korea and chinah

If Chinah start dumping usa bonds there may be trouble ahead...

Gold time.

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I'm on multiple platforms, but typically 212 for individual holdings and IE for etf

understood




that makes sense yhtl - yep something been looking very off


critical moment on the day for market here - cusp of a spike higher but fail and we may see another rapid sell off

right at this point

Japanese investors turned net sellers of overseas bonds in March 2025, marking the first time in three months, as they divested $6.14 billion worth of long-term foreign bonds, primarily U.S. bonds, reversing the net purchases seen in February.
This move was fueled by a decline in U.S. yields and a broader shift towards foreign equity investments. Additionally, earlier in the year, Japan had already sold off $27.3 billion in U.S. bonds, reducing its holdings to $1.0598 trillion, still the largest holdings of any single country.


Hmmm, not so much sizewise really I would think - not really my area of focus though

still largest holder with Chiyynaa in 2nd

Biggest 1 day gain for gold in it's history today chaps

Highest close ever @ $3175.6 - bullish

One thing it is certainly tell us is that our fiat is very unwell indeed

In fact it's been screaming just that for quite some time now

Multi year bull markets in gold have serious legs and this thing could carry on unabated

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Biggest 1 day gain for gold in it's history today chaps


That is points gained not percentage

Has the market just completely lost confidence in America being the centre of capitalism and profit?

Gold has been ticking up for 20 years.(or more)

Last 10 years has seen more rapid gains

Was buying 1 ounce coins for £700... 2010ish

They are going around £2600—£2800 for pandas, and
obvious bullion price for the boring ones.2450

Sovereign going for £600, was buying em at £90
when first wrote on forum.(sold a load at £140!) Then I also
remember getting em 3 for 500,lol.

Sir Richard Dearlove extolling the benefits of brexit on Bloomberg. That's his first (and last) appearance

EU getting into bed with Xi, apparently

Current Price

$3,217.33
Today Change

2.97% $92.79

USD weak again, US 10 year weak again. I'm keeping the big powder dry a little longer.

Vix still HIGH!!!

USD shoots up after Cider’s intervention.

Aftertiming, and still getting it wrong. That's a new low

No wonder you had to open a new account to get a new chatname.

Not sure you really do this, hit 9934 (usd vs basket of currencies) at 3.30 after that goes all the way up to 10000. What isn’t surprising is you again claiming you didn’t get it wrong!

Post today's trading chart showing USD strength. You must be looking at something different to me (quite possible). While you're at it, quote yourself stating it would be strong today.

Listen, you were wrong and you know it, you can go on any chart you like.

If you think USD isn't weak today, please PLEASE ensure that you only use Demo trading accounts (unless you're playing me).

I’m talking about the time you posted you farkwit.

Cider • April 11, 2025 3:30 PM BST
USD weak again,

Is it very complicated for you. At 3.30pm, USD was very weak.

At 8.35pm, guess what, USD is still very weak.

I refer you to my post at 8.22pm, a child could understand it.

Even on the bleedin chart you’ve posted you can see that it was low when you posted then it spiked and it is still significantly above the value at 3.30, saying it is ‘weak’ means fcukall

It is like I'm talking to a child. I wasn't making a call on what would happen to USD from 3.30pm today. I stated it was weak again. It is weak again.

Can I confirm, are you actually trying to claim USD isn't weak?

Go and play snoopy tennis or summat.

So, in your view, you will make money by saying it is weak? You make money when it goes below the value you said when you said it was weak, and it fcuking well hasnt

I’m not a ‘gamer’ like you you div

I don't trade currency. Perhaps you're unaware of the significance of USD being weak, at the same time as US treasury yields are climbing.

Almost all of my plays are based on medium and long term trends. I only day trade if there's an obvious and immediate unmissable opportunity, and if I was posting about a day trade on here, I would be specific about it.

The markets are hyper sensitive to news currently, so something as simple as a Fed member stating what they'd always state (they're ready to step in if needed), apparently sees buying of the major indices again. A sniff of bad news looking forward, and the sell off could be rapid.

But you have been noted as an aftertimer, Cider.

Or - to put it more politely - one who posts facing both ways and cites the better later. Which is half the job of a financial adviser. Is that fair?

This thread, and my OT savings thread are full of calls. That I've made about what might happen, recommendations etc. Going right back to when I recommended locking in interest rates in mortgages way back in 2022 (calling a rapid spike in inflation incoming). Obviously, not everything has been correct. I don't set out to 'aftertime' as a default, no doubt in over 20 years of posting history it has happened.

Fair enough.

https://www.moneyshow.com/articles/marketminute-63916/market-minute-4-11-25-dollar-torched-gold-surges-amid-us-asset-sale/

..

here you go, ub

Cider • April 7, 2025 9:03 AM BST
cherry picking today, eg ncyf, inpp, mrch, cty, lwdb

not time for index yet (for me)

All nicely up, not selling though. Next cab off the rank:

Vanguard UK Inflation Linked Gilt Index Accumulation (GBP) Price today £132.63

.https://markets.ft.com/data/funds/tearsheet/historical?s=GB00B45Q9038:GBP

(far lower than just after KK delivered his budget and the Fed hiked rates, when I 'day' traded it, btw)

so we know it goes up and down
if love was a blossom field, would you like it

All nicely up, not selling though. Next cab off the rank:

a number of those were trading ex-dividend on that date


when I 'day' traded it, btw




seriously though a good time to buy global at the moment with a weak s&p500 combined with strong gbp/usd

Erm, exactly which one of those holdings prices were impacted by the x date between 7th April 2025 and yesterday?

(seems like you may well be as clueless about trading s&s as everything else, but we'll see)

seriously though a good time to buy global at the moment with a weak s&p500 combined with strong gbp/usd


modest imo, I see a lot more pressure coming down the track in the short term on both usd and US equities. all it will take is some negative hard data, a lot of soft data is screaming in that direction. I have started chipping in, pca, however.

Erm, exactly which one of those holdings prices were impacted by the x date between 7th April 2025 and yesterday?


law debenture was because i looked at it at the time - but saw it was ex-divi and also not at a discount.

generally the discounts on ITs have remained consistent over the last weeks suggesting no real "bargains"

seems like you may well be as clueless about trading s&s as everything else

i don't pretend to be a trading master of the universe like yourself - but i try my best

law debenture was because i looked at it at the time - but saw it was ex-divi and also not at a discount.

generally the discounts on ITs have remained consistent over the last weeks suggesting no real "bargains"

apology accepted. the last x date for lwdb was 20 Mar 2025, nothing to do with trading this month.

if only judging the value of an IT at a particular time was done by looking at the 'discount'

Just checked my records, bought lwdb @8.38 07.04.25 price 745. Today 868.

+16% in 9 days

not a 'bargain' though

apology accepted. the last x date for lwdb was 20 Mar 2025, nothing to do with trading this month.

so you think you bought lwdb between the date it went ex-divi (20 march) and the dividend date (today) and received the dividend?

obviously not. what would the a x date of 20 Mar 2025 have to do with my trade on 7 April 2025 ?

this is what you posted:

a number of those were trading ex-dividend on that date


what does that have to do with my follow up post yesterday, to ub:

All nicely up, not selling though

the date it went xd was 20 march and it remained xd until the dividend payment date (16 April). it's still trading as xd today.

Are you new to this? the payment date doesn't impact the market price.

It's just information for holders of the equity. The x date is the only significant one re trading, as that will be when the market price will 'correct' lower to reflect the value of the divi.

Gold hits £2560

$3460

Tesla reporting their quarterly earnings after the bell
Expected to be slighty better than the prior year
Currently 6% up so far today

Tesla profits fell 71% from a year ago. Earnings were -$2 billion below even Wall Street expectations. It will not offer revenue guidance the rest of the year at the current time.

Sounds like things are going great.

Everyone enjoy the last couple days of blatant market manipulation again ?  Quite the sideshow with Bessent early then Trump during market maintenance hour when volume at lowest -  dark pools were cleared out and shorts got trapped in a vertical 2% spike - gold trounced 50 odd bucks by time it opened itself with the dxy bid

These recent days festered with super suspiciously timely comments and tweets, not all in one direction- this way, that way - wax on/wax off - no consistency -  a few hours, sometimes minutes after volume spikes are, in themselves quite low probability, let alone a good few in a row with the same obvious patterns....

Yep

Trading places

“Sell, Mortimer! Sell!”

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"BREAKING: White House considers slashing China tariffs to de-escalate trade war, sources say - WSJ"


Aaaaannd again .. bang on the open

squeeze the pips outta them shorts 


near top of recent range and resistance here 5460-5480 sp500... break could see 5620

or will they lob some and backtrack again in 2 hours or tomorrow ... who the fark knows ?

untradeable and glad I stepped back a few days ago and sodded off to France for a few days ..

not remotely interested in a circus like this for intraday - got my long term portfolio where I want it

"China tariffs likely coming down to between 50% and 65% - WSJ."


Hardly bullish yet eh ?

BTC ain't buying it
XAU slight turn
potential double top NASDAQ100 @ 19000 from 15/4



Might be a fade up here but as all professional traders should do - wait for the next fkn tweet

ffs

And faded it was