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By:
Giuseppe
When: 22 Feb 22 18:20
"professor of war studies at king's college2

doesn't know russia has forces in transnistria
By:
peckerdunne
When: 22 Feb 22 18:58
Is that longwave
By:
Giuseppe
When: 22 Feb 22 18:59
no mate part of Moldova on Ukraine's western border
By:
peckerdunne
When: 22 Feb 22 19:01
Every days a skool day
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 22 Feb 22 19:24
Sleepy Joe having
a CAT KNAP
or is he dead?
Shocked
By:
truehoncho
When: 22 Feb 22 19:29
Stuttering live on tv now.
By:
truehoncho
When: 22 Feb 22 19:34
Seems Biden wasn't happy about Putin annexing part of Ukraine. Its ok for Israel to annex the West Bank though.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 22 Feb 22 19:40
Cop out joe
By:
truehoncho
When: 22 Feb 22 19:46
His speech was terrifying...for all the wrong reasons.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 22 Feb 22 19:47
DevilGrinLaugh
By:
moisok
When: 22 Feb 22 20:03
dreadful place under the bully Putin  -  shuts down debate and jails the opposition

just like trudeau -  who is a true liberal  - and that is exactly what they are  - liberal with state power to shut down debate and opposition
By:
moisok
When: 22 Feb 22 20:04
but ALL countries allow BLM to riot and burn
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 23 Feb 22 18:31
Trump seems to be on
Putines side
Shocked
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 23 Feb 22 19:09
Biden will make threats but not carry them through

We’ll get someone who will
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 23 Feb 22 19:20
US says
In the next 48 hours
Russian Imperialists will
ATTACK

Sad
By:
politicspunter
When: 23 Feb 22 19:30

Feb 23, 2022 -- 6:31PM, ImSoLuckyLucky! wrote:


Trump seems to be onPutines side


He always has.

By:
politicspunter
When: 23 Feb 22 19:32
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-crisis-donald-trump-praises-putins-aggression-as-wonderful-and-genius-12549418
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By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 19:34
here we go again

you lefties are idiots

judge people by what they do not what they say

trump's actions did nothing but piss putin off while presdient
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 19:35
anyone looking at this crisis as a game of chess would conclude Biden isn't very bright
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 19:36
Biden and Blinken predicting on a daily basis what Putin was going to do

they got it wrong
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 23 Feb 22 19:37
Biden is an old loser

Time for new blood and a real man to get in there, a real man not some pathetic do Gooder that is scared of upsetting anyone
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 19:40
not saying Putin is winning

but it is clear Biden hasn't a clue what is going on

it's like watching your granddad on the playstation
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 23 Feb 22 19:44
Nasdaq is tanking
Down  2%

Shocked
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 19:46
Joe Biden, August 2023:

we believe Putin intends to attack Ukraine imminently and when he does we will impose severe sanctions
By:
mitolo
When: 23 Feb 22 20:22
an epically stoopid fred. with some prize erbets contributing. ive tried to ignore it but have blown up. none of you will read it, but here goes anyway;

rasputin is a 22-year dictator and president for life. he uses the judiciary to close down all opposition and his secret police to break every international law. he exports corruption and and mayhem. he murders all who stand up to him, wherever they are. he bullies and attacks small states like the baltics with massive cyber-warfare, interferes in foreign elections, pours out millions of false messages from troll farms while cracking down on his own media.

he ignores agreements, manufactures grievances and complains the west is out to get him. like everything he says, its all lies. he faces no threat from ukraine, or nato. what he fears is a free ukraine that shines a light on his grotesque kleptocracy that has massively enriched him and his chums, who use the state as a giant piggy bank. its no accident that he stole crimea in 2014 the year after ukraine made noises about joining the well-known agressive nazi organisation, the e.u. that was it for him.
 
thats when we should have done everything we could to stop him. instead we came up with mealy-mouthed platitudes and he laughed. he only respects power. 8 years on he is emboldened by appeasement. it didnt work with adolf, and wont here. hes on record as saying ukraine is not a real country and belongs to russia. hes been biting off bits of ukraine ever since.
 
the nonsense about nato is a red herring. his actions in the baltic have made sweden nervous and they are beefing up their armed forces and thinking of joining nato. whys that? because nato is a defensive alliance and its founding principle is that no member will attack another, and if one is attacked, then all the others will defend it. that why rasputin hates it. he had to act to stop ukraine even getting near it, even though it was a long way off. 

the ukraine was once the 3rd largest nuclear weapons power. it gave them up in return for 'assurances' of its territorial integrity(nb, not guarantees) and a pledge that it would be supplied with cheap russian gas. and it was, until it made overtures to the e.u. then rasputin cut it off.

how the ukraine must regret being deceived into giving up its nuclear capability. we wouldnt be here otherwise. 

according to giuseppe rasputin is just doing what he can. but bidet is an idiot and he is the problem. course he is.

giuseppe is a fool, liar, or russian bot. albeit a badly programmed one.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 23 Feb 22 20:24
Dow and SP also
tanking as well
now
Well i like been a paupoor

Shocked
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 20:50
"the ukraine was once the 3rd largest nuclear weapons power. it gave them up in return for 'assurances' of its territorial integrity(nb, not guarantees) and a pledge that it would be supplied with cheap russian gas. and it was, until it made overtures to the e.u. then rasputin cut it off."

do you think Russia expected Ukraine to become a NATO member hosting US bases when they signed that?

and that the US would still be treating Russia like an enemy thirty years after the cold war ended?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Feb 22 20:55
looks like someone has forced truth serum down mitolo's froat!

Nicely put nonetheless!
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 20:56
congratulations mitolo on swallowing all of sleepy joe's talking points and regurgitating them like nice little poodle
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 23 Feb 22 20:58
I very much doubt anyone is in agreement with you on this Seppe. Congratulations, you have united the forum!
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 23 Feb 22 20:59
Russia need dealing hardline not some silly sanctions

They need invading and wiping out
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 21:02
death

i think you will find most leaders of european nations agree with me

it is biden pushing this, not anyone on the continent

there is no great appetite in Germany, Italy of France to get Ukraine into NATO
By:
cryoftruth
When: 23 Feb 22 21:18


trump's actions did nothing but piss putin off while President



Utter rubbish and completely  untrue. Trump was licking Putin’s back passage throughout his terrible period as the worst present the USA have ever had.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/17/politics/trump-soft-on-russia/index.html

Is a nice simple link to 37 examples of Trump being soft on Putin when the lying orange idiot was President.
By:
mitolo
When: 23 Feb 22 21:19
i note you do not disagree with anything else i posted. you accept it is all true? good. but it doesnt say much for your position.

and fyi. the u.s. pumped zillions into russia after the collapse of the ussr. it treated it as a wounded animal that needed help.

why do you think the baltic states could not wait to join nato? i will tell you. they feared rasputins revanchism. and with good reason. he said the end of the ussr was a 'catastrophe'. they dont see it that way. theyve all been attacked by massive russian cyber-warfare since they declared independence. why did russia do this? are they scared of estonia?

nato is a defensive alliance. it has no interest in 'bases'. unlike russia. it does not engage in cyber-warfare. unlike russia. its members have no intention of attacking others. unlike russia. nor do they murder all opponents. unlike russia. no nato member is a kleptocracy, unlike russia.

i use russia as a synonym for rasputin. the russian people are immiserated by him, and have no access to independent media. navalny will die in jail. what do you say about that? nothing.

i pity the russian people but hate rasputin and his cronies. russia should be the richest state in the world but all the wealth is concentrated in the hands of rasputins chums. deny that you fool.
By:
cryoftruth
When: 23 Feb 22 21:24
i think you will find most leaders of european nations agree with me


That is actually really funny.

The idea that European leaders are queueing up to assess the merit of Guiseppe’s latest rants!

What utterly arrogant nonsense though. Astonishingly big headed drivel!

Does anyone really think for a second that any leader of any nation have ever heard of Guiseppe, someone who spends every second of his time posting tripe on a betting website?

Rather better and more accurate would have been instead:

I think you will find that most European leaders have never given a single thought to what Guiseppe has ever or will ever spout about any subject.

And why would they care? Why would anyone take a blind bit of notice?

Guiseppe spouts more and more utterly inaccurate drivel every day.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 21:26
typical CNN nonsense for gullible sheep

cot can you explain to me

why Trump continually put pressure on Germany to cancel nord stream

why trump increased sanctions on Russia

why Trump did not recognise Russian sovereignty over Crimea

why Trump humiliated Putin in Syria by bombing Putin's ally Assad while Russian forces were there to protect him

do you think this is what Putin wanted?
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 21:27
cot

are you aware that France, Germany and Italy are nowhere near as gung-ho about this as Dopey Doris?

do you know anything about european politics?
By:
cryoftruth
When: 23 Feb 22 21:31
and that the US would still be treating Russia like an enemy thirty years after the cold war ended?

More total tosh.

If Putin had not set about polluting the world with cyber attacks on democracy,

or spent much time and money wrecking democratic elections,

or spent billions of ordinary Russian people’s money on corrupting other nations and supporting and funding international crime,

or sending hit men armed with chemical weapons to kill us Brits, or invaded and annexed The Crimea,

or supported the evil dictator Assad causing huge numbers of deaths in Syria,

or killing political opponents at home and abroad,

all,of these things are clearly true as well, then maybe the Americans would not be required to treat Putin as their enemy.
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 21:31
and fyi. the u.s. pumped zillions into russia after the collapse of the ussr.

yes it was very fond of Russia when the country was weak and ruled by Yeltsin

not so keen when things changed under Putin

the US has been expanding further and further east since 1990

why is it doing this?

why aren't they expanding into Africa?

what strategic value does Estonia have for NATO? is it to counter China?

they have had Russia under sanctions for years and have been trying to stop nord stream, vital for the russian economy, for years

are you surprised Putin sees them as hostile
By:
Giuseppe
When: 23 Feb 22 21:33
cot

let's say Russia is launching cyber attacks on the US and the UK

have you ever asked yourself why it is doing this?

why does it view these countries as enemies?
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