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You remove the Taliban from the country , from
every aspect of the country and if they try their return you eliminate them They can keep trying as long as they like , we don’t leave |
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trump envisioned a peace deal and coalition government not taliban literally taking over
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That , should be the policy
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they cross the border to Pak or live in the mountains (terrain is a prob) or blend into civilian life lfc - not like fighting uniformed soldiers
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"blowing the f*** out of taliban strongholds"
yes, and drone strikes, and stopping the US withdrawal Trump took descisive action in Syria and Iraq |
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That’s fine let them live there . If they come out of the mountains make sure they don’t return
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and significant amounts of their number change with the breeze incidentally depending on who's winning...
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the taliban are a regular army and can be defeated as happened in 2001
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"this is not Saigon."
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well they clearly weren't defeated...or are you saying that US/Nato troops should just remain indefinitely ?
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Why not ? There is no reason why we shouldn’t stay for ever if that’s what it takes
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We stay there, and by the way we use the proceeds of the oil and the Afghan industry and jobs etc for their benefit and ours
It can and should be a win win situation |
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which other countries should we invade because we don't like who is in control?
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costs a lot...and whilst I'm not against it for short term in principle ...occupying peace keepers indefinitely feels a challenge...would imagine G has some views on that closer to home...
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they were turned from a national government and proepr army into a few guerillas hiding in the mounatins
20 years of failed of nation building allowed them to return nobody messes with trump, they have no idea what he's going to do |
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keep a small force of ground troops and special forces, and continue to bomb them indefintely
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why he didn't make sure the takeover environment was more developed ?
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which other countries should we invade because we don't like who is in control?
scotland |
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We’ve never left certain parts of the world , that’s how it works
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a lot has happened since he signed the deal
trump had zero foreign policy failures in office |
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You will not defeat the Taliban. Nobody can. You can give them a bloody nose for a while and then they come back.
This is quite sad: https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2019/12/12/the-taliban-have-been-defeated-america-didnt-do-it/ and oh so wrong. |
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I think alienating every Nato country is a bit of a failure ...cosying up to North Korea and Naughty Poots is not textbook success either...
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he wanted NATO to increase spending
he got closer to a deal in Korea than anyone else has has done nothing but piss Putin off (nordsteam, crimea, ukraine, syria, sanctions) |
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trump had zero foreign policy failures in office
making a deal with the Taliban without involving the Afghan government - how's that working out? |
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Al Jazeerah Freeview 236 showing exclusive pictures of Talib comanders inside Presidential Palace right now.
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sorry Channel 235
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I'd watch but I don't want to miss GB News
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"making a deal with the Taliban without involving the Afghan government - how's that working out? "
guess we'll never know whether it could have worked once joe was left to implement it was always going to be a disaster democrats wee the ones who abandoned South Vietnam too by teh way spinless wimps |
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he wanted NATO to increase spending - yep he got that right in principle but was already losing any credibility with Western governance, method of diplomacy and the fact that he was already looking like a moron by just lying consistently...
he got closer to a deal in Korea than anyone else has difficult to assess that...he'd ceryainly tell you he did because initially as with his Poots relationship he liked the big guy in charge stuff... has done nothing but piss Putin off (nordsteam, crimea, ukraine, syria, sanctions) - you have to decide which bits to credit to him or the defence department I'd imagine but Syria the west has largely abandoned and is crimea viewed as a success ? |
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Trump did nothing to help Putin
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you think Trump with his ego would sit back and let the taliban take Kabul?
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I'm alternating between watching Taliban Terrors v Afghan Aholes & Marseille v Bordeaux. Already won my bet on Talib Terrors so leaning towards the other game.
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"Syria the west has largely abandoned "
Trump defeated ISIS, with some help from France, Britain and the Kurds |
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I suspect he'd have lobbied for a very strong action ...whether the defense dept would have tried to implement what he wanted I'm not sure...
I'm still interested what your view is on indefinite occupation.. |
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a small presence is all that's needed, with airstrikes
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Russia have been the bigger player militarily in Syria surely in recent years
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no the US-French-British operation was much bigger
and a lot of the Russian operations were not against ISIS but other enemies of Assad |
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the US France and Britain were bombing the bejaysus out of ISIS day and night for years
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Russia was in the west of Syria helping Assad
US etc were in the north east helpling the Kurds against ISIS it was their airstrikes that enabled the Kurds to take Raqqa they were helping the Iraqis to take Mosul too France really stepped up its operations after the bataclan |
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US gov were targeting the Russian backed regime during Trump's time in office due to chemical weapons issues,
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