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Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:30 PM GMT
pecker can you explain what you think the UK should do?

numbers are going up everywhere
Report peckerdunne November 25, 2021 4:30 PM GMT
And yes Giggsy mountains of respiratory issues in children, it ain't rocket science.

Pure filth.
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:32 PM GMT
"mountains of respiratory issues in children"

really? you have a source for that?
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:32 PM GMT
"Because 85% have not been jabbed in the premier league. "

I don't understand what point you're making
Report Cider November 25, 2021 4:34 PM GMT
poor old gigg, desperate for England to get worse

25-11-2021    40,382   

18-11-2021    39,315   

Unfortunately for him, reported is approximately the same as Thursday last week Plain


Positive patients stable (falling)

25-11-2021    6,068
24-11-2021    6,062
23-11-2021    6,257
22-11-2021    6,424
21-11-2021    6,322
20-11-2021    6,191
19-11-2021    6,310
18-11-2021    6,336
17-11-2021    6,412


Reported deaths falling

Report peckerdunne November 25, 2021 4:36 PM GMT
Joe, I ain't playing this stupid crap  no more.

The numbers are up and going up.

You keep banging on about Ireland and masks in school std blah blah but you don't seem to realise primary kids don't wear them.

If people can't work it out well I'm fired of telling them.

Just keep reading internet and u tube, that will make it all better.
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:36 PM GMT
deaths are remarkably stable in the UK when they should be increasing (due to winter and supposed fading immunity)

Mondays and Tuesdays are between 50 and 100 deaths

other days are 150-200

deaths in Ireland are stable too
Report Cider November 25, 2021 4:36 PM GMT
Most people would be thrilled with the data at this point in the cycle, 25th Nov. One would have thought Plain
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:38 PM GMT
Austria is a bit of a concern, they are on 60 deaths a day

that is equivalent of about 450 in the UK
Report thegiggilo November 25, 2021 4:41 PM GMT
peckerdunne25 Nov 21 16:30
And yes Giggsy mountains of respiratory issues in children, it ain't rocket science.

Pure filth.

Long covid reports are onl just coming out,now even if you haven't been serious;y ill or hospitaized they are finding lots of micro bleeds o the brain, lung and heart not efficient even though mris showing nothing,a generation coming of ill health just because of no mitigations in schools.Everyones laughing at us,in saying that all these rightwing governments have done exactly the same disaster capitalism befire health..
Report thegiggilo November 25, 2021 4:41 PM GMT
peckerdunne25 Nov 21 16:30
And yes Giggsy mountains of respiratory issues in children, it ain't rocket science.

Pure filth.

Long covid reports are onl just coming out,now even if you haven't been serious;y ill or hospitaized they are finding lots of micro bleeds o the brain, lung and heart not efficient even though mris showing nothing,a generation coming of ill health just because of no mitigations in schools.Everyones laughing at us,in saying that all these rightwing governments have done exactly the same disaster capitalism befire health..
Report thegiggilo November 25, 2021 4:41 PM GMT
peckerdunne25 Nov 21 16:30
And yes Giggsy mountains of respiratory issues in children, it ain't rocket science.

Pure filth.

Long covid reports are onl just coming out,now even if you haven't been serious;y ill or hospitaized they are finding lots of micro bleeds o the brain, lung and heart not efficient even though mris showing nothing,a generation coming of ill health just because of no mitigations in schools.Everyones laughing at us,in saying that all these rightwing governments have done exactly the same disaster capitalism befire health..
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:42 PM GMT
pecker

can you please explain what you want done in the UK

do you want masks made obligatory in secondary schools and shops, like they are in Ireland?

if that makes a big difference why are case numbers higher in Ireand?

do you want primary school kids wearing masks in both countries?

how much of an impact will that make?
Report peckerdunne November 25, 2021 4:42 PM GMT
Numbers up 10% on the week, fact.

Two of the last 7 days numbers nearing 50,000, fact.

Stop the bull shitt, cooking no one, in fact it's become rather sickening and pathetic.
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:43 PM GMT
if secondary school kids wearing masks makes **** all difference, why do you want the primary school kids wearing them too?
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:43 PM GMT
what is the solution pecker?

masks?

that's your big idea?
Report Cider November 25, 2021 4:44 PM GMT
Greece has a 7 day moving average of 85 daily in a population circa 10 million. Austria with a similar population is 47.
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:45 PM GMT
you would expect the numbers to increase as we go into winter

but teh UK numbers are increasing more slowly that expected

tehy were at 40,000 in July

they are now at 47,000

Neil Ferguson thought they would be at 100,000
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:46 PM GMT
last few days deaths have gone up in Austria cider

72, 66 and 53
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:47 PM GMT
per capita that is more than three times the current number in the UK (150)
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:49 PM GMT
Two of the last 7 days numbers nearing 50,000, fact.

where are you getting these numbers from?

Uk hasnt broken the 50,000 mark since January

48,000 a few weeks ago was the recent peak
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:51 PM GMT
Austria (69%) and Czech Republic (61%) do have lower vaccination numbers than the UK (75%)

but i find it hard to believe that is what is causing teh difference
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:52 PM GMT
Greece is 67% vaccinated
Report Cider November 25, 2021 4:52 PM GMT
positive tests in under 60s have fallen quite significantly, so I would expect hospitalisations and deaths to remain stable, or fall further. positive stuff one might conclude.

Report Corky November 25, 2021 4:52 PM GMT
Granddaughters infant school windows and doors open in this weather. Poor little s0ds are freezing.
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:53 PM GMT
"Long covid reports are only just coming out now"

after almost two years?
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:54 PM GMT
montessori near where I live had the kids oustide all day last winter
Report Cider November 25, 2021 4:54 PM GMT
It's an absolute disgrace the way kids have been treated. Shameful.
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:55 PM GMT
why do you think so many people dying in Greece cider? i haven't been follwoing that country
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 4:57 PM GMT
"they are finding lots of micro bleeds o the brain, lung and heart not efficient even though mris showing nothing,a generation coming of ill health just because of no mitigations in schools."

sure they are
Report Cider November 25, 2021 5:04 PM GMT
Just a cursory look on worldometer, Greece stood out, as well as Poland.
Report nineteen points November 25, 2021 5:23 PM GMT
Amazing the steady rise in healthy sportsman keeling over with heart problems. Major spike in "sudden" deaths due to heart failure.Very scary.
Report JetLoneStar November 25, 2021 5:29 PM GMT
5-fold increase in sudden cardiac deaths of FIFA players in 2021.


Must be the lack of exercise.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 25, 2021 5:33 PM GMT
UK #DailyCovidUpdate | 25th Nov 2021

Cases:
- Total: 10,021,497 (+47,240) [avg. 43,357.71]

Deaths:
- 28d: 144,433 (+147) [avg. 124.86]
- 60d: 165,437 (+173) [avg. 151.14]

Vaccines:
- 1st: 50,852,133 (+24,579)
- 2nd: 46,232,258 (+23,439)
- 3rd: 16,383,575 (+378,946)


Detected cases up, dunno about
ons stats, as I think there
was a slight fall last week,
but true number of cases is
about 120k a day by their figs.
Report mafeking November 25, 2021 5:43 PM GMT
more than 25% drop in UK deaths since the recent peak at around 170 per day on nov 5

govt covid policy towards children has been nothing sort of child abuse
Report Johnny The Guesser November 25, 2021 5:48 PM GMT
Hahaha - giving out a vaccine that just might save a few kids lives is about as far from abuse as you can get.
Report mafeking November 25, 2021 5:56 PM GMT
not talking about the vaccine although the need for young people to have it is dubious at best as the JCVI ruled. closure of schools, being sent home time and time again, permanent masking, cancellation of sporting and other activities. the list goes on

adults are in the main being allowed to carry on usual while kids are still having their lives curtailed with no end in sight
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 25, 2021 6:01 PM GMT
Can't see any restrictions
on youngsters around here.

Durham cc were rumoured to
be considering some restrictions
for after school stuff, if things
got worse.

Other areas could well be different.
Report mafeking November 25, 2021 6:44 PM GMT
plenty of anecdotal evidence on twitter about local authorities going rogue imposing mask mandates, closing whole schools for weeks on end, cancelling nativity plays and other end of term activities. govt have basically washed their hands and allowing councils to do what they like
Report Charlie November 25, 2021 6:46 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2021 -- 12:44PM, mafeking wrote:


plenty of anecdotal evidence on twitter about local authorities going rogue imposing mask mandates, closing whole schools for weeks on end, cancelling nativity plays and other end of term activities. govt have basically washed their hands and allowing councils to do what they like


Forget twatter and anecdotes give us some facts.

Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 25, 2021 7:03 PM GMT
Plenty of nativy plays cancelled
because it takes too much time
and schools are on catch up.

Other schools doing nativity
as an after hours job.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 7:04 PM GMT
5 million lives lost in 2 years is equal to 1 person per million dying each day.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 7:05 PM GMT
with covid
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 25, 2021 7:05 PM GMT
Some classes doing Carol concerts
others not, but more usual
for class only, rather than whole school.
Report Charlie November 25, 2021 7:06 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2021 -- 1:04PM, Jumping-cuckoo-monk wrote:


5 million lives lost in 2 years is equal to 1 person per million dying each day.


You are like a cuckoo clock you keep popping up on different threads.

Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 7:14 PM GMT
2 different threads Charlie. I shouldve posted on here first it is a more maths based thread
I'm presenting the count in a different way
You have an objection to this?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 7:15 PM GMT
Don't try and make fun of my name please. I don't think you'd fare too well.
Report Charlie November 25, 2021 7:18 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2021 -- 1:15PM, Jumping-cuckoo-monk wrote:


Don't try and make fun of my name please. I don't think you'd fare too well.


You can make as much fun of my name as you want it doesn't bother me.

You can post on as many threads as you want but it becomes tedious replying to them. What is your point about the numbers you keep quoting?

Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 7:21 PM GMT
You don't need to follow me around threads.
The title of this thread is 1,564
I'm adding a different way of looking at the count.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 7:23 PM GMT
If Chris Whitty walked into your front room would you follow him around asking what the figures mean?
The figs speak for themselves.
Report JetLoneStar November 25, 2021 7:25 PM GMT
Before or after kissing his feet?

Laugh
Report Charlie November 25, 2021 7:26 PM GMT

Nov 25, 2021 -- 1:21PM, Jumping-cuckoo-monk wrote:


You don't need to follow me around threads.The title of this thread is 1,564I'm adding a different way of looking at the count.


What count? You've just spouted numbers without context. Are these numbers good or bad? Explain what you mean if you can.

Report Cider November 25, 2021 7:28 PM GMT
Perspective is very very important when it comes to data. The lack of perspective that lay people have over this stuff has been abused by far too many people, people that should be ethical like the ONS. They have simply been professionally corrupted by the pandemic, that trust will never return in my opinion.
Report Cider November 25, 2021 7:31 PM GMT
Between 2 January and 24 September 2021, the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people than in fully vaccinated individuals.

CrazyCrazy
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 7:33 PM GMT
That's too difficult for me Cider. My count is much easier to remember Cool
Report Cider November 25, 2021 7:45 PM GMT
The pandemic fear effectively ended here when all the health freaks were warning of armageddon on July 19th, and cases went down.

That was perspective for the masses.

Most people think there's a virus to be wary of if you're vulnerable, hence they are taking up the booster. But they essentially want to move on with their lives, in my opinion.
Report mafeking November 25, 2021 8:24 PM GMT
hard to disagree been a shocking 18 months for the medical and scientific community. that trust will be very hard to regain

normal people are living normally despite what the media would have you believe. polls still suggesting people want all sorts of restrictions bear no reality whatsoever to what you can observe for yourself on trains, in town centres and pubs etc
Report nineteen points November 25, 2021 8:35 PM GMT
Yougov poll? Laugh
Report nineteen points November 25, 2021 8:36 PM GMT
3 footballers today collapse with heart trouble.
Report Mexico November 25, 2021 8:48 PM GMT
FA report claiming

More young footballers dying of heart problems than thought

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/aug/08/more-young-footballers-dying-of-heart-problems-than-thought-fa-study-finds


At least the authorities are looking at the situation.
Report JetLoneStar November 25, 2021 8:56 PM GMT
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10229159/South-Africa-new-red-travel-list-early-TOMORROW-fears-mutant-strain.html

South Africa could go on new red travel list as early as TOMORROW as Number 10 is warned over super-mutant Botswana Covid variant that has caused 'exponential' rise in infections and could make current vaccines at least 40 per cent less effective
'Worst strain ever'




Hahaha, here we go lads, get the excuse in for the winter death spike Laugh
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 25, 2021 9:00 PM GMT
I haven't been scared for 2 days running and now this!
Super market viruses is all we need!
Report JetLoneStar November 25, 2021 9:03 PM GMT
Govt excluding  debate on new anti protest laws.  Introduced 18 pages of new law, after Commons stages and second reading in Lords complete.  Whole Lords committee stage debate on new clauses crammed into one late night.  Commons excluded, Lords marginalised, Parl neutralised.

Riots are coming and they know it, one way to make a peaceful protest turn violent I suppose.
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 9:39 PM GMT
4,800 cases in the Irish free State today, around 30% higher per capita than the UK

if only we were wearing masks and had covid passports
Report nineteen points November 25, 2021 9:46 PM GMT
Yes, they are game changers
Report JetLoneStar November 25, 2021 9:49 PM GMT
https://twitter.com/Jenni2161/status/1463828578144030733?s=20

power to the people
Report Giuseppe November 25, 2021 9:57 PM GMT
what is the point of wearing masks,a nd focing bar wowners to ask for covid documents, if it doesn't reduce transmission?
Report thegiggilo November 26, 2021 1:19 AM GMT
Deepti Gurdasani
@dgurdasani1
The post-truth world we're living in is quite something. To try and spin the current situation in the UK as a 'success' (it's not!), and say it did better than Europe (it didn't) because AZ wasn't used as widely in Europe (AZ protection is lower than Pfizer!) is quite phenomenal!

Prof. Christina Pagel
@chrischirp
Plus both the REACT study and UKHSA vax surveillance have clearly found that Pfizer gives you better protection than AZ against infection and hospitalisation for as long a time period as they can measure..


The AZ propaganda is strong...CrazyCrazy
Report Giuseppe November 26, 2021 1:26 AM GMT
"To try and spin the current situation in the UK as a 'success' (it's not!), and say it did better than Europe (it didn't)"

good grief

the CURRENT numbers are better in the UK than many european countries

it is not off the wall to suggest this is because AZ vaccine is behaving differently (protection from infection is fading mmore slowly
Report Giuseppe November 26, 2021 1:27 AM GMT
"Plus both the REACT study and UKHSA vax surveillance have clearly found that Pfizer gives you better protection than AZ against infection and hospitalisation for as long a time period as they can measure.."

studies, studies, studies

what about the real world data?

UK has seen little growth in daily cases while caes skyrocet elsewhere
Report Giuseppe November 26, 2021 1:28 AM GMT
here's one for the experts

why have case numbers caught up with and overtaken the UK over the last month or so?

Ireland uses pfizer, and has masks and covid passports
Report Giuseppe November 26, 2021 1:29 AM GMT
why have case numbers in Ireland caught up with and overtaken the UK over the last month or so?
Report nineteen points November 26, 2021 8:06 AM GMT
because of germ filled masks and passports which instill fearlessness instead of the usual caution
Report irishone November 26, 2021 8:15 AM GMT
I blocked Giuseppe months ago
not only is he a fascist
But he is also incredibly thick
And a begging ponce
Report Mexico November 26, 2021 9:43 AM GMT
Fair play Irishone

His devotion to Mussolini does support that fascist point of view.
Thankfully there were many war heroes fighting against the the Axis powers last century.
I don’t think Giuseppe has got over the execution of Il Duce yet.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 26, 2021 10:42 AM GMT
That's racist^^^ As a moderator you should be ashamed of yourself
Seppe asks qs you can't answer so you make personal attacks
Report nineteen points November 26, 2021 11:13 AM GMT
its always the cowards way out.
Report Mexico November 26, 2021 11:14 AM GMT
Jumping

You believe it is racist to agree with Irishone’s opinion? Wouldn’t it be reasonable to believe that a Mussolini supporter is a fascist.

You seem to be living in a different universe if you believe I am a forum moderator.
Report Mexico November 26, 2021 11:17 AM GMT
19

Are you still too scared to have a vaccine. Who exactly is the coward? Is in those who are too scared to help the country.

How is your job hunting going 19, have you decided to pay income tax and NI yet or happy to let decent people pay for the public services?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 26, 2021 11:20 AM GMT
Point out Giuseppe's fascist views on this thread, Mexico
He has asked qs pertaining to the thread subject.
You have made the jump to Giuseppe's character referencing an Italian Fascist as Giuseppe is Italian.
You are not hard to work out Mexico
Why not address the qs Giuseppe asked on this thread and try and be useful in providing an answer?
You brag of having some sort of intellect, use it for good instead of childish name-calling
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 26, 2021 11:22 AM GMT
oh , I've just seen the "scared to take a vaccine" line crop up again
Forget it Mexico,  you are a child.
Report Mexico November 26, 2021 11:44 AM GMT
Jumping

Millions of children have had the vaccine, they are not too scared.

If the unemployed school dropouts call people cowards isn’t it reasonable to ask if these people are too scared to have a safe effective vaccine.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 26, 2021 11:50 AM GMT
Why would I have a vaccine if I'm not scared? I don't perceive a massive risk.
I might be right and I might be wrong.
But why do you think I'm scared? Do you think I have a needle phobia?
Your thought processes leave me scratching my head
Are the BAME scared? Are they school dropouts?
Report nineteen points November 26, 2021 11:52 AM GMT
mexico has a few well trotted out lines which are so tedious and frankly quite laughable.folk might respect him and take his views seriously if he could come up with some decent new comments and views
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 26, 2021 11:56 AM GMT
I know that Mexico uses the the line of cowardice attributed to non-vaccination.
Very very often
His logic just doesn't stand up
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 26, 2021 11:58 AM GMT
I posted a simple stat on here and since then for some reason some seem to be upset with me.
I thought people interested in politics would be more robust in their thinking and logical.
Seems not
Newbury on soon, so back later Happy
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 26, 2021 4:30 PM GMT
UK #DailyCovidUpdate | 26th Nov 2021

Cases:
- Total: 10,070,841 (+50,091) [avg. 44,193.29]

Deaths:
- 28d: 144,593 (+160) [avg. 125.29]
- 60d: 165,643 (+206) [avg. 153.29]

Vaccines:
- 1st: 50,875,712 (+23,579)
- 2nd: 46,255,081 (+22,823)
- 3rd: 16,779,656 (+396,081)
Report thegiggilo November 26, 2021 5:04 PM GMT
WTF ShockedShockedShockedThat's what happens with no mitigations and so predictable another 200 chucked on the pile as well,months and months of asking the same ? how the fcuk are they getting away with it..
Report JetLoneStar November 26, 2021 5:26 PM GMT
Why has anyone with a brain not got mex blocked yet, he's clearly a bot that's malfunctioned.
Report JetLoneStar November 26, 2021 5:27 PM GMT
@gigs what would you suggest we do?
?
also are you the same giggilo that was a bit of an AW master on the horseracing forum?
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 26, 2021 5:38 PM GMT
Ons data has 1 in 65 infected

That's about 100,000 new cases
a day, but 1 in 65 is same as
last week.

Think these tests are just catching
up, as they've been about
half of ons level, in general
for some time.
Report eyeball November 26, 2021 5:49 PM GMT
Deaths tend to follow infections by about three weeks. As we have no data for infections, I'll have to go with cases. Cases began to increase from a trough on 6th November so I would expect deaths to increase steadily from now through to January. I would suggest that there will be restrictions put in place before long based on past decision making. Let's hope I am a clueless guesser.
Report Giuseppe November 26, 2021 5:56 PM GMT
eyeball i wouldn't be so sure

deaths have gone down in ireland despite cases skyrocketing

on the other hand austria is on 555 deaths a day now, about three times the UK rate
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- November 26, 2021 6:03 PM GMT
Eyeball.

It depends if ons figures, or detected
case test figures are more accurate.

If ons is accurate I would expect
more of the same, or even a fall
in deaths as boosters and new
treatments kick in.

If test figures are accurate
then we need flu to stay away
to stop hospitals being unable to cope.

Interesting to see next weeks
ons figures.
Report Giuseppe November 26, 2021 6:15 PM GMT
55 deaths a day in Austria not 555

need a new keyboard

would anyone be willing to lend me 50 euros so i can get one?
Report JetLoneStar November 26, 2021 6:19 PM GMT
I think irish might be able to sort you out Giu.
Report Giuseppe November 26, 2021 6:22 PM GMT
i doubt it Sad
Report Cider November 26, 2021 6:33 PM GMT
We've dipped below 6K positive patients for the first time in around six weeks. This is more correlated with reported deaths, as clearly positive tests in the older ages groups have been going down.

26-11-2021    5,992
25-11-2021    6,068
24-11-2021    6,062
23-11-2021    6,257
22-11-2021    6,424
21-11-2021    6,322
20-11-2021    6,191
19-11-2021    6,310
18-11-2021    6,336
Report layingisthewayforward November 26, 2021 6:44 PM GMT
I see we have yet another new variant. All Boris' fault I'm telling ya CrazyCrazy
Report thegiggilo November 27, 2021 2:17 AM GMT
Adam Schwarz
@AdamJSchwarz
A friend arrived in London this morning on one of the last flights from South Africa.

Health officials met the plane, but no additional precautions are being taken for the hundreds of passengers.

The flight came from Gauteng - the province where the new variant was identified..


WTF sh1t for brains ShockedShockedShockedobviously already here who the vermin going to blame this time with their redlist..
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