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1325 dead in one day as tories provide links to fake certificates to avoid wearing masks
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I asked you a question upthread PP. It's been a busy thread though, so may have missed your direct response.
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Go on, re-post it here please. Doing a couple other things at same time.
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Yeah Cider let's have the top 6 pro's and cons..
lockdown versus no lockdown.. Let's have the top 3 things we can do now to avoid disaster. Keenly awaiting your sage advice. |
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Cider you are terrible.
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What happened to the people packed like sandines on the beaches during summer? I can only assume covid got them all.
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Just your estimate would do.
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Cider • January 8, 2021 6:01 PM GMT
It's hilarious how you all try to have a pop at me rather than actually challenge my points. You don't have any points, you just gob up soundbites a) the virus is extremely contagious b) it isn't possible for all potentially vulnerable people to isolate for economic and social reasons c) the faster this extremely contagious virus spreads the more of "b" will end up in hospital and dead d) the far right wing know this and don't care |
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How do you measure fear Cider.
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It's at gas mark 10 on this thread.
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Are you have a "hilarious pop" at ppl?
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How many people are dying per week as a consequence of lockdown and fear (not covid)?
Ok, I dismissed this as it's completely disingenuous. As you well know "fear" isn't recorded on death certificates so there is no way of knowing. I'm sure you've got a vivid imagination though. Anything else, or was that it? I thought you said you had a load of points nobody could challenge. |
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Anecdotally, my Mum texting me to see if it's okay to go outside and put the rubbish out. Asking me every day is Boris on today. Texting me that they are running out of vaccines.
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Can you tell us as a number cruncher how you measure fear, and how many people in hiding are doing it through fear as opposed to being housebound.
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Some you genuinely appear to have no idea exactly how scared many older people are. Scared enough not to call an ambo or arrange a GP appt if they are ill.
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Anecdotally, my Mum texting me to see if it's okay to go outside and put the rubbish out. Asking me every day is Boris on today. Texting me that they are running out of vaccines.
Have you implicitly told her to grow a pair. |
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don't think an ambulance would be coming if you got your way.
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Not dying of fear directly (obviously), as a consequence of fear.
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Can you not suffer fear when outdoors Cider.
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.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
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No, not my approach Cider, simply following your cue about them all being hiders and cowards.Like you said about my teacher wife, if she doesn't like the odds she should resign.She dedicated her kind self to helping special needs children and those from broken homes, i have years of service 'in the community'.
You just splatter tripe but keep anything about yourself a secret...thats hiding. |
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You miss the point. People on twatter et al shouting for lockdowns can hide. My Mum is not doing that, she is genuinely scared. The vast majority of people at genuine risk are not the ones shouting for more lockdowns. There is nobody on this thread who is not capable of locking themselves down if they wish.
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A simple estimate from you will do, using your judgement and what you know about death rates etc.
No, it's utterly childish and beneath me. For one, you're deliberately confusing fear with risk. Understanding that a person is at serious risk of catching the virus is real, not cowardly. Now, I thought you had some serious points that no-one could counter. If this is the best you can do, can I suggest you get back to your GCSE mocks instead. |
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If you are scared ring your local Council - ask about volunteers to help with shopping , prescriptions - Most have volunteer schemes set up.
Have no visitors. Stay in. The virus cannot get you there. |
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How long for Johnny? How long would you imprison the elderly in their own homes without any visitors?
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Until the vaccine arrives.
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a few days ago i was confident johnson had vaccs covered ,on the grounds not even this idiot after the year he,s had would set his 15 mill vacc number and bang on about day after day if he didnt no it was in the bag
now i,m beginning to think he,s been banging on about vaccs all week because he was forewarned about these last few days horro show numbers were coming and vaccs were the latest dead cat,and we,ll talk about my latest world beating 15 mill jabs failure when it happens and hope death numbers might have plateaued by then |
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A starting point, perhaps.
More than 30,000 extra deaths not linked to Covid-19 have now taken place in private homes in England and Wales since the start of the coronavirus pandemic, new figures show. Extra deaths – known as “excess deaths” – are the number of deaths that are above the average for the corresponding period in the previous five years. A total of 30,785 excess deaths in homes in England and Wales that did not involve Covid-19 were registered between March 7 and November 13, according to PA news agency analysis of data published by the Office for National Statistics (ONS). |
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I can understand why you don't want to. That would mean acknowledging it is happening in large numbers. Beneath you
Who's acknowledging anything? It's completely nebulous and is pure guesswork. I think I'd need a tin foil hat to get started for one thing. Now, do you actually have anything? Any one thing? At all? |
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PP - As I have said before - There is no good solution to this . There are only less bad solutions.
The least bad solution for the nation as a whole is for the vulnerable to lock themselves away until the spring. Why should the youngsters have their lives ruined when the virus causes them little harm ? |
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chris giles times go to man gold standard for excess deaths,will on current numbers be hitting 100,000 by end of jan,at that point i,m not really bothered about arguing about how many would have
died anyway got knocked over by a jet ski testing positive fell of a cliff testing positive etc etc |
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Shirley 15 Mill vaccs offered by valentines is a cert
Oh the people didn't want them when offered... |
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I think people just need to calm down a bit. Johnson is pretending this roll out is a tough target when clearly its no such thing and by mid Feb people making up the vast majority of the deaths will have been vaccinated. Theres a bit of a time lag as well but this is nearly done now.
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I have never advocated society just opening up as normal whilst the vulnerable shield.
Society would be able to open up , boosting the economy , but with restrictions particularly in hospitality , and current social distancing rules , personal hygiene messaging etc. If the vulnerable stay in , they don't catch it , they don't go to hospital , they don't put pressure on NHS. |
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The NHS is not designed to cope with a pandemic never has and never will
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