Politics
1325 dead in one day as tories provide links to fake certificates to avoid wearing masks
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Cider
Shouldn't you be at work saving the economy rather than posting drivel on here? |
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What utter nonsense.
If lockdown is failing because people aren't following rules that doesn't mean that lockdown doesn't work, it just means that the dissenters are ruining the economy and flooding the health service, not that lockdown doesn't work. |
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How about answering the question I asked. What difference does it make to you if there is a formal lockdown or not?
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Lockdown just makes people who are scared feel better.
Cider, that's a pretty sick view, i'm not surprised by it. |
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A formal lockdown reduces the spread of covid. Is that clear enough. Now to my question to you.
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1 I asked dave
2 That makes no difference to you, if you make the personal choice to hide. |
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I'm not asking about the wider implications of lockdown, and that bank and forth argument. Just what difference it makes to capable people who make a personal choice to hide.
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Cider
I'ts a bit confusing who is asking and answering what. My question to you was: Shouldn't you be at work saving the economy rather than posting drivel on here? |
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If you live in London and end up seriously ill with covid, just except your likely to die.
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Not at 17.38 on a Friday!
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^Because this isn't about me - I would be surprised if I had a severe illness as I'm not overweight and pretty fit.
The issue is the herd immunity nonsense and the millions of people who will end up with a severe illness and the thousands hospitalised or dead (and blocking hospital beds). And even on top of that "Britain can make it" has managed to produce one significant mutatation - who is to say that the next one won't be worse? |
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Where in the world has covid spread faster than the UK. Since march we have had no big crowds, social distancing, lockdowns, limits on seeing older people and pubs either closed or lmited.
For months not been allowed people in others homes or even gardens. Unless you weld everyone into their homes with a supply of tinned food and bottled water you cannot stop it Well, we've not really had lockdowns. Not proper lockdowns. We had some plenty big crowds in the summer and autumn. Google student blerts concert square to be reminded. Pubs may have had to shut early but that was just symptomatic of the awful mixed messaging and not taking the virus seriously. Yeah, close them all at ten and watch everyone pile out at the same time, six pints deep, hugging and walking next to each other as the booze makes them fearless. As stated months ago (as I'm sure you'll remember), what you can do is buy time. And now that we have several vaccines available, not doing that is frankly criminal. Lock down. Do it properly. And get the medicine into people's arms. It really doesn't need to be like this. |
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Charlie, his career has nothing to do with you, it's top secret, but i'll have you know he is a qualified number cruncher, so you best shut it and listen and learn from the man who knows how to get us all out of this and weer the badge of bravery from behind his keyboard.
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Be afraid froggy, be very afraid.
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Cider what do you mean by "hiding" do you yourself use public transport,go to the supermarket? I bet you don't,everything delivered etc,is that "hiding"?
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Sorry pecker, I thought he got a 2:1 in stats. He never mentioned any further qualifications but I'm sure he has many. If only he would tell us how to get out of this then we'd all be very grateful.
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I take it by that answer you are a hidey hider.No shame there,common sense.
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If i was in a bunker with Cider i'd always have my back to the wall.
Someone who says if teachers don't like the risk they should resign and on the other hand if someone stays at home and prevents further spread they are a coward,you couldn't have a wing man like that,not in my trench. |
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what big crowds in spread covid? I think it is fair to say we have had barely any big crowds anywhere in the last 10 months.
We cannot link deaths with Covid in January with the media waiting for crowds on a beach in the summer to get the busiest shot. You're gonna have to add a verb to that first sentence chief. I think the evidence is that Covid does not solely rely on mega-crowds. I mean, I'm sure it's a fan but it's not the be all and end all. It's quite happy sweeping through fairly packed pubs and classrooms and thrives on those then passing it on to their households. And on. And on. Y'know, maybe begging people to visits pubs and restaurants, to go back to work and get on buses and trains if you want to keep your job, and that it was ok to visit the pub as long as you have a scotch egg, to loosen restrictions at the start of December when numbers were rising and doctors and scientists were begging them not to, to encourage people to meet up and mingle around Christmas time. Maybe, just maybe, these weren't actually the best messages to be giving. |
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I have no option lapsy! Nothing would stop me doing my usual activities if they were permitted. I've not been in the office since March, and now we will be given the option of wfh forever.
I delivered shopping to my Mum's front door back in March/April, I'm doing online orders for her now. |
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You are indeed a top "hider" Cider
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No one was encouraged to meet up over Christmas , quite the opposite
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When I was a leader one of my own rules was not to ask someone to do something I wouldn't be happy to do myself. I can hardly expect people to deliver to my place if I wasn't willing to go out myself. That would be immensely hypocritical.
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Your argument is that it's impossible to shield. Clearly it isn't. I'm struggling to think of too many scenarios where it would be impossible for the vulnerable to shield if they wanted to.
Well you really aren't using your imagination. Or perhaps it doesn't extend very far from the middle class suburbs. |
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Right lads fix bayonets, I'll stay here and make sure the tea is ready if you get back alive.
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When I was a leader one of my own rules was not to ask someone to do something I wouldn't be happy to do myself.
I bet those scouts were very pleased with that. |
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Have you heard of housebound people? There are thousands of them. Before covid.
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Care home boss said it was impossible to stop it after losing half her patients
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I was thinking I wouldn't like to be his doctor come prostate check time.
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It's hilarious how you all try to have a pop at me rather than actually challenge my points. I'd have thought you would have been bored of trying to undermine me personally by now
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The oldies don't want to stay in - They want everybody else to stay in.
It is their right to shuffle round Tesco for hours with their missus , mask dangling round their chins, taking 20 mins choosing their Sunday meat , picking up everything on the shelf ..."What do you think Love ..a nice bit of pork ?" .."No Pops..We had pork last week..What about lamb ?"...."Looks a bit fatty" ..."....FFS....while you wait politely a couple of metres because they are hogging the shelf space..They never even see you ...In the end you do an excuse me and lean in and quickly grab what you need. They look at you like you have just killed them. Stay in and the virus won't get you. |
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Have you heard of housebound people? There are thousands of them. Before covid.
What a bunch of cowards they are..at least you have the 'office' to not go to... |
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Right go on then Cider, list your points. Lemme at em.
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