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Im not sure just because someone else does something that means its good to do. I was brought up not to just follow the crowd.
I think this has become far too simplistic just worrying about the level of covid deaths and ignoring the other deaths/misery/economic ruin it causes in the medium term. Theres no good solution but the lack of proper debate about options is wrong. |
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The priorities as i said earlier seem to be schooling and essential services,the start of things getting bad in Scotland came in part by over a hundred cases from 1 pub(?) about 6 weeks ago(?)
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I understand that Dotchinite, if i was arguing your point i would say youngfellas will go to the offie,get slabs and met up,which is what is happening too,no easy solution but indoors in a closed enviroment drinking isn't wise imo and i know some publicans doing their best with rules but..
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Oh yes their priorities sound the same as Johnsons. That doesnt make them sensible though. I dont doubt the figures but equally I dont agree that shutting them down is the logical response. Theres a study out tonight for a start that suggests herd immunity could save more lives than lockdown.
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Don't follow the crowd to the pub.
There may be no herd immunity, it may not save more lives even if it can be reached. Infecting more people increases chance of catching an even nastier mutation We don't know if this virus has a legacy |
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They can't control the pissed.
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Maybe,but the cost of that(herd immunity) is there obviously, the Irish health service were practically begging people to cut contacts,they were doing that from worry(imo), but i get that, that also ties in with pubs.
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And by they I'm referring to your masters.
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The problem with restrictions/lockdown is the timing of a vaccine as they are all time limited measures. If theres no vaccine in a year we will have to be back to normal anyway. The more certain a vaccine is the more logical short term restrictions are.
Ive said they should be upfront about that and then in the short term people are more likely to comply. |
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They simply don't know if a vaccine is safe,and how long it might offer immunity for, maybe second shot gives boost.
Then there's the nutters who won't take vaccine Vaccines should become clearer by end of year, duration of immunity would be discovered later. |
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Anti viral drug development as with hiv is important too
Still no aids vaccine |
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yhtl. Answer me one question. Without a vaccine how long is it feasible to keep any restrictions going.
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Until they can buy the lot for pennies
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There won't be many restrictions if cases are low D
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Wont cases keep coming back when restrictions are low? Isnt that the flaw in lockdowns.
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I don't know how long people will tolerate restrictions.
It's a worry for governments who need to control the virus Test and trace would help too, with targeted lockdowns of close contacts. Folk are still learning. I think shorter sharper lockdowns in good time would have been better but we missed that boat. Treat this as good learning for when something even more serious turns up |
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Hopefully not in our lifetime, btw
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They will unless it is a non individual effort.
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meals and non-alcoholic drinks inside pubs elsewhere until 10pm. What a mess.
 WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE , IS SHE A MEMBER OF THE PIONEERS |
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SS, are they? pubs have been the easy target.i was in one on tuesday teatime.3 in.hard a hotbed for this deadly virus.yet owner tarred with same brush as big city bar owners.
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i got villifed on here for daring to question if the lockdowns,masks etc are working.now seems more and more folk doing it.however with the nasty culture out there now you have to toe the line or be bullying int submission.sad times.
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More and more people not wearing masks, not adhering to lockdown guidelines has led to the upsurge in cases.
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No politician, not sturgeon or anyone else , are introducing these measures because they want to do so
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I agree with Lfc,Brussels closing them this morning after describing them as "contamination hotspots".
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I did hear those other issues on the news ftp
the press will continue to cover that |
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I believe the steps she is taking are based on the situation regarding covid
and nothing else |
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This is the biggest issue now for any government and any politician
Bigger than the US president. , bigger than the Tory government, bigger than Scottish independence These things can all be returned to .. but how big the shadow |
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Even Brexit could be postponed , i don’t mind , if we get a solution and a cure
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Ah not postponing brexit lfc,Boris was adam ant when he gave the EU the ultimatum of the 15th of Oct.
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A new royal family, a wild nobility...
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I recon half wear them due to being bullied, 25% to make themselves look righteous to others and 25% because they are genuinely scared.
I dont wear one for any of those reasons i dont think. I wear one as a courtesy to others as long as it isnt inconvenient for me. Most of the time it isnt. |
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As opposed to a whack job follower bullied into not wearing one incase his nutter mates laugh.
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Ive been to the shops having forgot it before and it didnt bother me. Shop didnt even ask. Im not bothered by anyone else not wearing them so i dont really feel bullied. There are bullies of course but **** them
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It's a two week closure to wrestle back control so folk have confidence to return
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I wear my visor which is much more comfortable and means I avoid any aggravation. Anything for an easy life.
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You do mean like a medical visor and not a golf visor right?
I mean golf visors are incredibly fashionable but dont do much for covid |
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Its more like the ones horses wear.
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This guy gets it
https://twitter.com/i/status/1313604837913829376 |
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BBC saying 30% of cases are coming from "hospitality", if that is indeed the case Nicola is right as i said,the other option is leave them open and have 30% more cases
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