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meals and non-alcoholic  drinks inside pubs elsewhere until 10pm.  What a mess.

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By:
Dotchinite
When: 07 Oct 20 15:38
Imagine the abuse Johnson would get if (when?) he brought in such a ridiculous measure. Its total nonsense.
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 07 Oct 20 15:50
Closing the central Scotland pubs is a terrible idea but yes, that second bit is mindboggling.

If i had to invent the worst policy i could think of, banning alcohol in pubs would be right up there
By:
howard
When: 07 Oct 20 15:59
bbc report beer gardens outside the central belt will be able to serve beer until 10pm.  Could be more deaths from hyperthermia than virus.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 07 Oct 20 16:05
The just keep kicking the can down the road.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Oct 20 16:07

Oct 7, 2020 -- 4:05PM, Dr Crippen wrote:


The just keep kicking the can down the road.


It’s almost like they hope there will be some way of protecting people more effectively in a few months time.

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 07 Oct 20 16:11

Oct 7, 2020 -- 3:38PM, Dotchinite wrote:


Imagine the abuse Johnson would get if (when?) he brought in such a ridiculous measure. Its total nonsense.


Well get ready for that sort of "measure" to arrive here

They are already prepping for it with the attack on 10pm curfews, people think they are just attacking the idea of it being idiocy, when in fact its the prelude to closing pubs and restaurants completely again

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 07 Oct 20 16:12

Oct 7, 2020 -- 3:50PM, Pleasegivemeanailedontip wrote:


Closing the central Scotland pubs is a terrible idea but yes, that second bit is mindboggling.If i had to invent the worst policy i could think of, banning alcohol in pubs would be right up there


Alcohol is going to be banned in the brave new world

By:
nineteen points
When: 07 Oct 20 16:14
its just 3 weeks to flatten the curve.keep burying your heads,everythings fine i hear.#itsonlyamask.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 07 Oct 20 16:18
They've banned alcohol in public spaces in Frankfurt

I mean this virus is some virus eh, its bringing about societal changes in supersonic speed, but no one is dying from it and the US president is in and out of hospital in 36 hours with not so much as a cough... wakey fooking wakey
By:
N-east Correspondent
When: 07 Oct 20 16:22
This will cause untold damage to hospitality sector in Scotland £40m is not going to scratch the surface. The galling thing is all the pubs in the highlands and northeast i was in last week took measures v.seriously and were looking forward to school holidays to try and earn some much need revenue feel heart sorry for them all.
By:
nineteen points
When: 07 Oct 20 16:22
anyone with half a brain knows this has nothing to do with a virus.its a world reset and the sooner folk wake up the better.how much shafting can these folk take before they wake up?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 07 Oct 20 16:22
They've pretty much wiped out the pub industry over a virus that vanished and you all "flattened the curve", but here we are 6 months later with round 2 and its all your own fault DESPITE abiding to the rules they put in place

You couldn't win, therefor they've blatantly abused the law of nature whereby you have to give your opponent a fighting chance, karma is not going to end well for the people enacting all this
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 07 Oct 20 16:23

Oct 7, 2020 -- 4:22PM, N-east Correspondent wrote:


This will cause untold damage to hospitality sector in Scotland £40m is not going to scratch the surface. The galling thing is all the pubs in the highlands and northeast i was in last week took measures v.seriously and were looking forward to school holidays to try and earn some much need revenue feel heart sorry for them all.


They've been cheated, and sorry but that isn't allowed, the force of god will sort them out with karma

I ain't kidding with that either, you can't not give people a chance, its all about karma

By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 07 Oct 20 16:25
Not sure theres any benefit of a conspiracy, think we can put this policy idea down to plain ol stupidity
By:
lfc1971
When: 07 Oct 20 16:26
I’m beginning to miss the full lockdown
By:
politicspunter
When: 07 Oct 20 16:27

Oct 7, 2020 -- 4:18PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


They've banned alcohol in public spaces in Frankfurt I mean this virus is some virus eh, its bringing about societal changes in supersonic speed, but no one is dying from it and the US president is in and out of hospital in 36 hours with not so much as a cough... wakey fooking wakey


Only just over a million have died so farSad

By:
tyco161
When: 07 Oct 20 16:29

Oct 7, 2020 -- 4:27PM, politicspunter wrote:


Oct  7, 2020 --  4:18PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:They've banned alcohol in public spaces in Frankfurt I mean this virus is some virus eh, its bringing about societal changes in supersonic speed, but no one is dying from it and the US president is in and out of hospital in 36 hours with not so much as a cough... wakey fooking wakeyOnly just over a million have died so far


Exactly, just over a million, which is really a drop in the bucket compared with the 55 million other people that have died this year not from Covid. These lockdowns and restrictions are stupidly mindboggling.

By:
nineteen points
When: 07 Oct 20 16:44
they dont like you mentioning the 4million who died of starvation either tyco.and theres a vaccine for that!
By:
Cliftonhill Albion
When: 07 Oct 20 16:51
I'm afraid it's worse than the OP suggests.

There will be no pubs or restaurants open in the central belt, either indoors or out, from Friday for 16 days.

Outside the central belt, pubs can only sell alcohol outdoors until 10.  No alcohol sales indoors at all.
By:
nineteen points
When: 07 Oct 20 16:58
because alcohol is the root to all this covid trouble
By:
Pleasegivemeanailedontip
When: 07 Oct 20 17:04
The idea that we are all loaded guns walking round clumsily capping off our elders is very troubling for me already.

But the insuation that were doing it because we cant handle our beer? Oh lord, that is not a vote winner.
By:
Charlie
When: 07 Oct 20 17:05

Oct 7, 2020 -- 4:44PM, nineteen points wrote:


they dont like you mentioning the 4million who died of starvation either tyco.and theres a vaccine for that!


Your repeatedly mention this so your compassion for starving people is admirable. I do think you underestimate the number of people dying annually of starvation. I assume you recommend increasing foreign aid?

By:
Cider
When: 07 Oct 20 17:06
Not going so well for the covid queen.
By:
nineteen points
When: 07 Oct 20 17:11
no charlie mate,sadly i am only trying to highlight that there are very many killers out there at the minute far far worse than this covid.was it 24th on the list at the minute? it saddens me that everything is being forgotten about and put on a back burner because of it.treat it for what it is.
By:
Charlie
When: 07 Oct 20 17:13
19
Are you really saying you don't care about starving people? And you wouldn't increase foreign aid?
By:
nineteen points
When: 07 Oct 20 17:15
sorry charlie i cant see where i said that.i highlighted the amount dying so i would gather from that i do care.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Oct 20 17:17
The suggestion that foreign aid prevents starvation is laughable.
By:
Charlie
When: 07 Oct 20 17:17
Ok, that's good. How would you like to go about reducing that figure?
By:
Charlie
When: 07 Oct 20 17:19
That was directed at 19 but is equally applicable to Cider.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Oct 20 17:20
Birth control
By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Oct 20 17:22
Empowering women, including the availability of birth control is actually a good suggestion but isn’t going to work for a while.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Oct 20 17:24
The extreme population growth in Africa is driven by East Africa, Middle Africa and West Africa, which regions are projected to more than quintuple their populations over the 21st century. The most extreme of these is Middle Africa, with an estimated population increase by 680%, from less than 100 million in 2000 to more than 750 million in 2100 (more than half of this figure is driven by the Democratic Republic of the Congo, projected to increase from 47 million in 2000 to 379 million in 2100). Projected population growth is less extreme in Southern Africa and North Africa, which are expected, respectively, to not quite double and triple their populations over the same period.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Oct 20 17:26
No amount of foreign aid is going to keep pace with that demand, even if the funds meant food went into the mouths of starving kids, which of course it doesn't.
By:
Charlie
When: 07 Oct 20 17:28
Isn't viability, and therefore fecundity, dependent on being fed enough? (I may have used those terms incorrectly - it's been a while). The less offspring that people have that survive the more offspring they have.
By:
Cider
When: 07 Oct 20 17:32
Medical progress has made its way to Africa, not on the same level of the west obviously but it's meant infant mortality has reduced whilst fertility rates have not dropped.
By:
Charlie
When: 07 Oct 20 17:36
Not sure if that answers my post or not.

If you want to propagate then you need to have children that survive. The more children that don't survive through starvation the higher the starvation rate and the higher the birth rate needed. What comes first reducing starvation or reducing birth rate?
By:
Fatslogger
When: 07 Oct 20 17:36
How are you providing the birth control, Cider?
By:
Cider
When: 07 Oct 20 17:43
You'd have to have a multi faceted approach, what China did was extreme but this requires extreme measures.
By:
Charlie
When: 07 Oct 20 17:44
This being?
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