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By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 11:44
i'm pretty sure he was parodying right wingers
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 11:47
IT acting like an SJW Sad
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 11:50
Interesting that you see the context as it was parody. Maybe you are right.

Aaronh are you going with the parody defense line as well?

As for being a SJW he is free to say those things as far as I am concerned and everyone else is free to comment on them. Dave thinks it was parody. I do not like people who make those kind of comments.
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 11:51
Aaronh are you going with the parody defense line as well?


no
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 11:53
I do not like people who make those kind of comments.

Laugh whole lot of politicians and forumites you oughta start disavowing then
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 11:54
I just think you are a fraud who is bringing up and pretending to be mad about such comments so you can attack PP
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 11:54
If one of your mates said that to you would you:

A. Laugh.
B. Say that is unacceptable.
C. Ignore it but think slightly less of them.
By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 11:56
Do you think that PP actually believed that Cruz was gay? btw what do you think of this?

The photo was part of a tweet that the GOP frontrunner shared on Wednesday night. The tweet read, "A picture is worth a thousand words," and it featured a photo of Cruz's wife, Heidi, next to a picture of Trump's wife, Melania.


https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-shared-an-unflattering-picture-of-ted-cruzs-wife-2016-3?r=US&IR=T
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By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 11:57

Aug 26, 2020 -- 11:54AM, aaronh wrote:


I just think you are a fraud who is bringing up and pretending to be mad about such comments so you can attack PP


I am not 'disavowing' the bloke. I am just disgusted by those comments. I do not remember any politician (or anyone else) saying it would be a 'real dirt' for someone to be gay. If you have examples please post.

By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 11:58

Aug 26, 2020 -- 11:56AM, dave1357 wrote:


Do you think that PP actually believed that Cruz was gay? btw what do you think of this?The photo was part of a tweet that the GOP frontrunner shared on Wednesday night. The tweet read, "A picture is worth a thousand words," and it featured a photo of Cruz's wife, Heidi, next to a picture of Trump's wife, Melania.https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-shared-an-unflattering-picture-of-ted-cruzs-wife-2016-3?r=US&IR=T.


have to laugh at Trump supporters tone policing and calling out offensive speech

By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:00
yeah can't believe IT would fall into such an obvious trap
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:00

Aug 26, 2020 -- 11:58AM, aaronh wrote:


Aug 26, 2020 -- 11:56AM, dave1357 wrote:Do you think that PP actually believed that Cruz was gay? btw what do you think of this?The photo was part of a tweet that the GOP frontrunner shared on Wednesday night. The tweet read, "A picture is worth a thousand words," and it featured a photo of Cruz's wife, Heidi, next to a picture of Trump's wife, Melania.https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-shared-an-unflattering-picture-of-ted-cruzs-wife-2016-3?r=US&IR=T.have to laugh at Trump supporters tone policing and calling out offensive speech


I am not policing anything.

I am saying I am, personally, disgusted by what he wrote. I am surprised other people seem ok with it. But of course that is up to them. If you are ok with it Aaronh that is fine with me. We are all entitled to our opinions.

By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:01
are you ok with trump tweeting about cruz's wife?
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:02
I am saying I am, personally, disgusted by what he wrote. I am surprised other people seem ok with it.

Trump defenders saying this about other people LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:06

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:02PM, aaronh wrote:


I am saying I am, personally, disgusted by what he wrote. I am surprised other people seem ok with it. Trump defenders saying this about other people


I support a lot of Trump's policies. I disagree with some.

By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:06
What do you think of this IT

Ted Cruz supports one of the most controversial and discriminatory anti-LGBT laws in recent history
The bill passed in North Carolina makes it legal for someone who is gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender to be discriminated against and has caused national outrage

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/north-carolina-ted-cruz-supports-one-of-the-most-controversial-and-discriminatory-anti-lgbt-laws-in-a6985961.html
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Do you seriously think that he would survive as a texas republican politician if he was gay?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:07

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:01PM, dave1357 wrote:


are you ok with trump tweeting about cruz's wife?


I think that side by side photo was unnecessary and childish.

By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:10
but not misogynistic?
By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:11
do you think cruz is homophobic - many people would say he is?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:11

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:06PM, dave1357 wrote:


What do you think of this ITTed Cruz supports one of the most controversial and discriminatory anti-LGBT laws in recent historyThe bill passed in North Carolina makes it legal for someone who is gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender to be discriminated against and has caused national outragehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/north-carolina-ted-cruz-supports-one-of-the-most-controversial-and-discriminatory-anti-lgbt-laws-in-a6985961.html,Do you seriously think that he would survive as a texas republican politician if he was gay?


“As the father of daughters, I’m not terribly excited about men being able to go along into a bathroom with my daughters,” Mr Cruz said, as reported by ABC news.

^

Fair statement or unacceptable?

By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:14

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:06PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:02PM, aaronh wrote:I am saying I am, personally, disgusted by what he wrote. I am surprised other people seem ok with it. Trump defenders saying this about other peopleI support a lot of Trump's policies. I disagree with some.


not about policies.

By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:14
obvious transphobia is obvious but IT will suddenly lose all sight of underlying context again Plain
By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:15
^^^I suppose he would be happier living in KSA with girls and women shuttered away.
By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:17
The toilet statement clearly implies that he thinks that trans pupils are a threat to his daughters.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:18

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:14PM, aaronh wrote:


obvious transphobia is obvious but IT will suddenly lose all sight of underlying context again


The trans debate is ongoing.

At what stage are we talking about? Post-op or a 'man' that decided to dress as a woman today?

By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:19
a 'man' that decided to dress as a woman today?

this has nothing to do with the trans people
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:20
IT, if you want to go into the womens toilets and rape somebody this can happen regardless of what laws there are
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:20
Maybe all bathrooms should allow anyone in?

A gay man can rightly use the same bathrooms as boys. There is no issue there.

So why can a straight man not use the same bathrooms as girls?
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:21
???
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:21
IT would undoubtedly have bought into the propaganda of protecting kids during the time of Section 28
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:23

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:20PM, aaronh wrote:


IT, if you want to go into the womens toilets and rape somebody this can happen regardless of what laws there are


Exactly.

By:
dave1357
When: 26 Aug 20 12:24
So anyway we have PP making a comment about a seemingly homophobic republican being outed as gay and incorporating the gist of a previous trump tweet about said politicians's wife and speculating that this would result in cruz losing support from republicans- which is a reasonable speculation.

Not PP finest work I admit, but to think it is worthy of resurrection after two years says more about the resurrectors than anything.
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:25

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:23PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:20PM, aaronh wrote:IT, if you want to go into the womens toilets and rape somebody this can happen regardless of what laws there areExactly.


so you can see that the context of this bill is just to hound trans people and further push a narrative that they are predators

like all these bills pushed are

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:28
It is certainly an interesting debate.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:31
A lot of woman and girls are uncomfortable with it and it is right to acknowledge that.

Their rights should not be brushed aside.

But on the other hand the trans rights should not be brushed aside either as if they are living as a woman it would be weird to use a mens bathroom.
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:31
not really, trans people just wanna be left alone instead of being hounded by bigots
By:
timbuctooth
When: 26 Aug 20 12:31
No one wants pp/fs banned, cancelled, or beaten senseless by the hyena mobs, our love of Free Speech leaves him every right to be verbally offensive; don`t forget, (and contrary to recent attempts by lefties to twist the meaning!), it`s not we good and right thinkers s who are the snowflakes, we can stand the heat, knowing we have right, decency, truth and facts on our side. We`d just rather a bit less hypocrisy from the virtue-signalling liar. And maybe a bit less of his comrades jumping in to defend such stuff, when each and every one of them pray for the day I, IT, or any other centrist posts anything that could have us banned
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 Aug 20 12:34

Aug 26, 2020 -- 12:31PM, aaronh wrote:


not really, trans people just wanna be left alone instead of being hounded by bigots


Are all the women u know cool with trans people using woman's bathrooms?

By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:39
why shouldn't they be? and when you revert to the obvious answer. see your post at 12:23pm
By:
aaronh
When: 26 Aug 20 12:42
trans people have rotted the brains of people who would otherwise be considered "Liberal"

they would act disgusted by the kinds of people who tot up and make note of every crime committed by Muslim people and then go and do the same for trans people
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