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Under estimating Scotland politically will be a very dangerous policy for the Conservative party . Particularly if there is any real aspiration for having any sense of "one-ness" which is one of Boris's sound bites . Strategically Scotland is of huge significance in UK terms , and being dominated from London is not attractive to a lot of Scots . And they no longer could be described as being representative of a lot of warring factions/ clans .
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The SNP don't respect the results of any referendum, God knows why they want another!
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Scotland voted to stay in the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU. Case closed.
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I don't recall the SNP mentioning the EU before the last Independence referendum. In fact I'd go as far to say they didn't give two hoots about the EU until the UK decided to leave it and the majority of Scotland voted to remain in it. What is undemocratic is to ignore the last "once in a generation" referendum that even the SNP was quoting!
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themover, you seem to be obsessed in blocking democratic referendums because the result of the previous one suits your agenda? It's not for you nor I to decide on whether to have a referendum, it's for the elected representatives of the parliament of the nation concerned, in this case Holyrood, to decide.
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Great, no need to bother the UK Parliament with it then.
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The UK Parliament should have no involvement whatsoever.
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Why do they keep asking for one for in the UK Parliament then?
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Sadly, in the Westminster system, a referendum has to be granted by the current government which is totally undemocratic.
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" it's for the elected representatives of the parliament of the nation concerned, in this case Holyrood, to decide."
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I am not sure I understand your post but if you believe it's not for Westminster to decide then you are correct.
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"in the Westminster system, a referendum has to be granted by the current government"
Correct, not Holyrood. |
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Sadly, yes, Westminster has to grant it, which is totally undemocratic.
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A bit like the EU that they want to remain in
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To be fair to particularly the SNP, at Westminster they do not vote on matters that do not affect Scotland. It's completely undemocratic for the Westminster representatives of England, Wales and Northern Ireland to vote on matters on Scotland alone. The Holyrood Parliament is elected by the people of Scotland alone, it is for them to decide on any referendum.
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UK (Scotland), YouGov poll:
Should Scotland be an independent country? Yes: 51% (+7) No: 49% (-7) +/- vs. 3-6 December 2019 Fieldwork: 22-27 January 2020 Sample size: 1039 |
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So only 44% in favour of independence prior to the UK General Election. Surprised it only went up 7% after a Tory government was elected!
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why are there so many here representing a tiny percentage of the kingdom
I would say they are massively over represented. another question why do so many nice scottish people live in england and why don't they or didn't they get a vote on independence |
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mover..you aint the sharpest tool are you?..the longer the tories ignore and disrespect the people of Scotland what do you think that will do for
the indy movement? |
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Well done with your last night.
sofiakenny • January 29, 2020 7:43 PM GMT 11/4 under 3 goals is my play ..gl. I've already said so but you didn't acknowledge. |
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"ignore and disrespect the people of Scotland"
The only Scots being disrespected are those that voted to stay in the UK when the SNP got it's "once in a generation" referendum. |
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The only Scots being disrespected are the ones who elect their representation at Holyrood but MPs from a Parliament in another country tell them what to do.
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sounds like the EU again
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but why couldn't the nice scottish people who live in englandisch vote in the independent issue
is there something ginge fears? |
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why do so many scottish mps represent so few voters?
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why do we give them so much money?
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The SNP are over-represented in the UK Parliament thanks to First Past the Post, yet they want to be part of a Parliament where they will be under-represented
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Polly and Wee Larry the Sheephodger are easy confused, themover. Typical snp folk
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sofiakenny30 Jan 20 19:55Joined: 02 Apr 05 | Topic/replies: 22,041 | Blogger: sofiakenny's blog
mover..you aint the sharpest tool are you?..the longer the tories ignore and disrespect the people of Scotland what do you think that will do for the indy movement? They are respecting the vast maority of Scolands voters. Only a tad over a third of the electorate voted for independence which means nearly 66% of the electorate didn't vote for independence. What was that about not being the sharpest tool on the box? Although tbf kennybhoy sharp or blunt you are a tool. ![]() |
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Ladies tights
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https://twitter.com/classicbritcom/status/1111692948662562816?lang=en
"I've got it wrong again" Poor kennybhoy never ever gets it right. ![]() |
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48-6 ya Orange quizling bigot...62-38
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Indeed,a failure of democracy in Scotland and Northern Ireland,the wishes of the people in the toilet.Rightfully taking to the streets this evening to protest,though will do little good.
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It's strange how Remainers that attempted to block the result of a referendum at every single opportunity are now screaming democracy. If N Ireland wants a vote no issues with that, Scotland has already had one but if they think there's a case for another then they can make that to the elected UK Government and they can decide.
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