joihnson threatens to pull bill

John McDonnell MP
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@johnmcdonnellMP
Johnson threatening a general election because Parliament might want a few more days to scrutinise his Withdrawal Bill. Pathetic. What has he got to hide?

Dominic Casciani
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@BBCDomC
Interesting fact: The government’s position in the Supreme Court battle over the PM closing down Parliament was a) Parliament’s sovereign role is to scrutinise, make and unmake legislation & b) MPs would have a full opportunity and sufficient time to scrutinise Brexit legislation

I think Boris is wasting his time trying to get any Brexit legislation through parliament with all the lying Remainer Labour & Tory MPs currently in the house.

Let them go back to their constituencies and stand on a Remain ticket at the GE.

Once we have a HoC that truly reflects the will of the people Brexit legislation should fly through

lie after lie after lie from Johnson at the dispatch box today,the more he,s found out the more he lies but been an expert in trench digging,digging yourself in to a deeper hole isn't a problem

most of the deal has already been debated last year, there is only a few things that have changed , just a way of stalling brexit for corbyn to say we have to debate it all again, pathetic attempt to throw brexit out, bring on the election and crush corbyn

the deal you say has been debated before was been given 8 weeks by mrs may and liar crook before she was in cummings clutcheswas advocating minimum 4 weeks ,she,s now the brains behind 3 days as she was the brains behind losing 11 nil in supreme court,i suggest her views can be safely ignored, niki costa another bitter woman with scores to settle

most of the deal has already been debated last year

no it hss not

a single comma can alter entire passages

3 days to check for traps, not enough

so you  know more than ian duncan smith do you who says it has

i forgot that betfair formites know more than our elected parliament

If MP's are to debate over every single comma then 3 days isn't enough... another 3 years wont be enough either!

Oct 22, 2019 -- 4:46PM, lord skywalker wrote:

so you

whatever hardliner remoaner angoose

Oct 22, 2019 -- 4:51PM, lord skywalker wrote:

whatever hardliner remoaner angoose

There you go again. You only come on here to be abusive to other members. Why do you do it?

when shown up ...shout abuse

its all they have

why not post a reasoned argument, ??

sayin whatever is hardly abuse, so its ok for hardline remainers and boris haters to shout it but not me, "its all they have"
who are these people then youhavetolaugh

those that choose abuse over debate

sayin whatever is hardly abuse,


whatever hardliner remoaner angoose


cant even quote yourself, or choose not to, why might that be?

reasoned debate on here with hardline remainers who cant accept that we are leavin the EU, dont make me laugh!!

see what i mean, reasoned debate on here doesnt exist with sarcasim like that

Oct 22, 2019 -- 5:08PM, lord skywalker wrote:

reasoned debate on here with hardline remainers who cant accept that we are leavin the EU, dont make me laugh!!

Stay off the forum then.

is he arguing with himself?

ummmmm

yes i am thats all us leavers have left

You don't want a reasoned debate. You don't want to leave, full stop. Why do you all continue lying about it?

there are several posters on here who voted to leave but dont trust bozo and his cronies it isnt just remainers.

i dont see any experts in constitutional law or trade saying it is a good idea to rush this act through. eurosceptic @davidallengreen on twitter (well worth following)  says he needs a couple of weeks to even have a general sense of all the implications of the bill, just reading it isnt enough.

if you want to remain or leave you can still debate the matters of the day.

we are a forum for that, as well as punting.

Absolutely.

So as it stands if Mps vote for bill and to speed it up we will leave on 31st Oct and immediately enter more negotiations on the actual terms when we have left transition and if they aren't complete by end Dec 2020, which nobody thinks they will be (including Barnier who will lead the EU team) then we will leave with no deal on the whole future relationship - can someone please tell me what certainty this gives to business and anyone else that wants certainty for more than a few hours?

The EU say they will never be responsible for no deal so in the next stage they will be under pressure to deliver a FTA.

That gives the UK leverage.

Having said that a FTA is a no brainer for the EU as they have a trading surplus with the UK.

the eu has a surplus with usa too, do they have a fta, ?

That gives the UK leverage.


Feck me - you really have learnt nowt from the previous 3 years have you? Even if that is all correct what about the business' that want certainty now and have held back investment until the picture becomes clearer? As it stands those companies (that want to continue trading with the EU as they were) are just going to move abroad (some already have) and there will likely be a huge exodus over the next year or so if it comes to pass as Pfefffle has laid out. Even if it is as you describe it will be a year before things become clear which is just too long for many when there has been no respite and no oppo to invest.

businesses have held back investment in the UK?

Some have, the car industry which is in crisis the world over but not newer busineses...



www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-49413186

Move abroad?

What happened to the financial sector decamping to Paris & Frankfurt?

Project Fear got it wrong yet again

we havnt left yet

We were told the economy would collapse the day after we voted to leave.

It was going to be so bad there would have to be an emergency budget with spending slashed.

Project Fear, there needs to be a full judge led public inquiry.

Stay off the forum then.

Looks like little politics pauper's been eating red meat again.

Telling people to stay off the forum.

Must think he owns the place, although he's lost so much on  here he must think he's bought it.

businesses have held back investment in the UK?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/10/07/economy-takes-20bn-hit-business-investment-plunge-since-brexit/
https://www.britishchambers.org.uk/news/2019/09/bcc-forecast-business-investment-and-productivity-sinking-amid-brexit-stalemate-and-global-slowdown


What happened to the financial sector decamping to Paris & Frankfurt?


https://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/3000398/brexit-banks-moving-out-of-london



We were told the economy would collapse the day after we voted to leave.

And has been pointed out about a million times on this forum alone that was based on doing what Davey said he would do and implement A50 the day after the result and the decline in the economy is about in the middle of forecasts - 3% smaller as of June 2019
https://www.cer.eu/insights/cost-brexit-june-2019

so , another lie from bj

a bluff called and cards thrust with much petulance to the floor

when is the next meaningful vote

when is next meaningful vote

Yet more Remainer lies.

A50 has been triggered, where was the collapse? Where was the emergency budget with slashed spending?

We all know Boris is a liar but so to is the machine behind Project Fear.

article 50 was not triggered the day after the referendum

hope this helps

lol 1p give it rest tory fanboy

someone posted this on another site sums it up perfectly "They only had over a year to read 90% of the latest deal.

If they spent time on that instead of playing lets hate the leavers game

It would be sorted"

most mps lie at some point, corbyn if PM will never honour half of what he promised if in power, lies are part of the game dont know why boris is being hated so much for his lies when they all stretch the truth at some point

The difference being that Boris is a proven liar.

theyre all as bad as one another

what lies as boris told then PP

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html

There are some here to start off with.

29 ditches in rose garden for Johnson and 28 erg
6 months of we,re leaving oct 31st do or die
they,ll have to change the script

anyone listening to the debate today where you,d struggle to hear a decent reason for this deal would be amazed every tory mp voted for it,

^ I thought Corbyn was the bigger man this evening,he reached his hand out and said "we" can work on this over time which to me is the right way to go.
Still 3 years+ too late, politics in your country seems to be the opposite of doing in the best interests of the people who in theory they should be serving.

PA I Hope you have bbc 4 on

Johnsons response was quite good tbf, a bit of transparency and working together could and should have been the way forward.leavers,remainers,tories,labour, isn't or hasn't it all been about our country?
Even "the fighting Irish" political parties came together in the wake of Brexit,as a country you got this so wrong.

Thanks PD,i see tis a drama, i'll give it a whirl anyway.

docu/drama apparently


i see Stephens got the run around, well he knew that anyway, didn't we all

Stevens...........

its not desperate yet jim and his yellow tie off sky sports hasn't turned up yet

washoping for more docu than drama

They would have been destroyed if so^

As Freddie said, M15 still have the master file undestroyed and it contains plenty about
the HIM THE fru and activities

sry the handler was it, had undercover recordings

i was distracted

I thought Corbyn was the bigger man this evening,he reached his hand out and said "we" can work on this over time which to me is the right way to go.
Still 3 years+ too late, politics in your country seems to be the opposite of doing in the best interests of the people who in theory they should be serving.Q

Corbyn is a communist & terrorist lover.

No sane person would ever have dealing with him.

i quit that prog

You deal with everyone if you wanted a "good" brexit,the fact he is the leader of the opposition party more so,you want a crock o shiite,don't deal with him so.

Yes PD,at least the crying game had a touch more realism.

Sorry pa,had to deal with something here.

To clarify,the Spotlight programme just revealed fact that alot more evidence of criminality and collusion still being held by M15 but hidden from Lord Stevens..

what lies has boris told ?


lol



look at thread title

I knew where you were coming from PD.

Overall things are going in the right direction, Pat Finucane,who is behind the vz 58's and getting there then.

I hope the rhi inquiry is honest.

Oct 22, 2019 -- 10:28PM, OnePercenter wrote:

I thought Corbyn was the bigger man this evening,he reached his hand out and said "we" can work on this over time which to me is the right way to go.Still 3 years+ too late, politics in your country seems to be the opposite of doing in the best interests of the people who in theory they should be serving.QCorbyn is a communist & terrorist lover.No sane person would ever have dealing with him.

1p why did he get nearly 12 million votes then in 2017

https://twitter.com/Hugodixon/status/1186894987176402945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fpoliticalbetting.vanillacommunity.com%2Fdiscussion%2F8097%2Fpoliticalbetting-com-blog-archive-the-people-will-speak

More lies from Boris (from yesterday).

As always, the devil is in the detail, and Johnson is famously unconcerned with detail.