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22 Oct 19
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if programme motion goes down that's the DUP happy as sand boys,johnson obviously give up on them over Brexit and puts them in play for all amendments if it goes ahead
also suggests he hasn't given some of the tory rebels the amendment they wanted on fta extention
also suggests he hasn't given some of the tory rebels the amendment they wanted on fta extention
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John McDonnell MP
✔ @johnmcdonnellMP Johnson threatening a general election because Parliament might want a few more days to scrutinise his Withdrawal Bill. Pathetic. What has he got to hide? |
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Dominic Casciani
✔ @BBCDomC Interesting fact: The government’s position in the Supreme Court battle over the PM closing down Parliament was a) Parliament’s sovereign role is to scrutinise, make and unmake legislation & b) MPs would have a full opportunity and sufficient time to scrutinise Brexit legislation |
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I think Boris is wasting his time trying to get any Brexit legislation through parliament with all the lying Remainer Labour & Tory MPs currently in the house.
Let them go back to their constituencies and stand on a Remain ticket at the GE. Once we have a HoC that truly reflects the will of the people Brexit legislation should fly through |
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lie after lie after lie from Johnson at the dispatch box today,the more he,s found out the more he lies but been an expert in trench digging,digging yourself in to a deeper hole isn't a problem
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most of the deal has already been debated last year, there is only a few things that have changed , just a way of stalling brexit for corbyn to say we have to debate it all again, pathetic attempt to throw brexit out, bring on the election and crush corbyn
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the deal you say has been debated before was been given 8 weeks by mrs may and liar crook before she was in cummings clutcheswas advocating minimum 4 weeks ,she,s now the brains behind 3 days as she was the brains behind losing 11 nil in supreme court,i suggest her views can be safely ignored, niki costa another bitter woman with scores to settle
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most of the deal has already been debated last year
no it hss not a single comma can alter entire passages 3 days to check for traps, not enough |
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so you know more than ian duncan smith do you who says it has
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i forgot that betfair formites know more than our elected parliament
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If MP's are to debate over every single comma then 3 days isn't enough... another 3 years wont be enough either!
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whatever hardliner remoaner angoose
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when shown up ...shout abuse
its all they have why not post a reasoned argument, ?? |
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sayin whatever is hardly abuse, so its ok for hardline remainers and boris haters to shout it but not me, "its all they have"
who are these people then youhavetolaugh |
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those that choose abuse over debate
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sayin whatever is hardly abuse,
whatever hardliner remoaner angoose cant even quote yourself, or choose not to, why might that be? |
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reasoned debate on here with hardline remainers who cant accept that we are leavin the EU, dont make me laugh!!
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see what i mean, reasoned debate on here doesnt exist with sarcasim like that
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is he arguing with himself?
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ummmmm
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yes i am thats all us leavers have left
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You don't want a reasoned debate. You don't want to leave, full stop. Why do you all continue lying about it?
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there are several posters on here who voted to leave but dont trust bozo and his cronies it isnt just remainers.
i dont see any experts in constitutional law or trade saying it is a good idea to rush this act through. eurosceptic @davidallengreen on twitter (well worth following) says he needs a couple of weeks to even have a general sense of all the implications of the bill, just reading it isnt enough. |
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if you want to remain or leave you can still debate the matters of the day.
we are a forum for that, as well as punting. |
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Absolutely.
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So as it stands if Mps vote for bill and to speed it up we will leave on 31st Oct and immediately enter more negotiations on the actual terms when we have left transition and if they aren't complete by end Dec 2020, which nobody thinks they will be (including Barnier who will lead the EU team) then we will leave with no deal on the whole future relationship - can someone please tell me what certainty this gives to business and anyone else that wants certainty for more than a few hours?
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The EU say they will never be responsible for no deal so in the next stage they will be under pressure to deliver a FTA.
That gives the UK leverage. Having said that a FTA is a no brainer for the EU as they have a trading surplus with the UK. |
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the eu has a surplus with usa too, do they have a fta, ?
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That gives the UK leverage.
Feck me - you really have learnt nowt from the previous 3 years have you? Even if that is all correct what about the business' that want certainty now and have held back investment until the picture becomes clearer? As it stands those companies (that want to continue trading with the EU as they were) are just going to move abroad (some already have) and there will likely be a huge exodus over the next year or so if it comes to pass as Pfefffle has laid out. Even if it is as you describe it will be a year before things become clear which is just too long for many when there has been no respite and no oppo to invest. |
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businesses have held back investment in the UK?
Some have, the car industry which is in crisis the world over but not newer busineses... www.bbc.com/news/amp/business-49413186 |
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Move abroad?
What happened to the financial sector decamping to Paris & Frankfurt? |
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Project Fear got it wrong yet again
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we havnt left yet
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We were told the economy would collapse the day after we voted to leave.
It was going to be so bad there would have to be an emergency budget with spending slashed. Project Fear, there needs to be a full judge led public inquiry. |
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Stay off the forum then.
Looks like little politics pauper's been eating red meat again. Telling people to stay off the forum. Must think he owns the place, although he's lost so much on here he must think he's bought it. |
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businesses have held back investment in the UK?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/10/07/economy-takes-20bn-hit-business-investment-plunge-since-brexit/ https://www.britishchambers.org.uk/news/2019/09/bcc-forecast-business-investment-and-productivity-sinking-amid-brexit-stalemate-and-global-slowdown What happened to the financial sector decamping to Paris & Frankfurt? https://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/3000398/brexit-banks-moving-out-of-london We were told the economy would collapse the day after we voted to leave. And has been pointed out about a million times on this forum alone that was based on doing what Davey said he would do and implement A50 the day after the result and the decline in the economy is about in the middle of forecasts - 3% smaller as of June 2019 https://www.cer.eu/insights/cost-brexit-june-2019 |
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so , another lie from bj
a bluff called and cards thrust with much petulance to the floor |