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the pm doesn't have to do anything he is told to do by parliament
it is for the pm to govern, not parliament |
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the peoples pmqs from luxembourg was cancelled when the pm ran away from the peoples questiond
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remainers should be seen and not heard
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the pm should be seen and heard, he shouldnt run away
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no, we don't want to hear anything more from the pm thanks
we have already heard enough, leave oct 31, do or die |
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Boris Johnsom Desert Island Disc selections from October 2005
1. Beatles – Here Comes the Sun 2. Theme Tune for Test Match Special – Soul Limbo, Booker T and the MGs 3. Bach – Ich will hier bei dir stehen – Here would I stand beside thee 4. Rolling Stones – Start Me Up 5. Brahms – Finale of Brahms Variations on a theme by Haydn 6. Van Morrison – Brown Eyed Girl 7. The Clash – Pressure Drop 8. Opening of the last movement of Beethoven’s 5th Symphony Surely he picked the wrong song by The Clash  |
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beethovens 8 th might be a better choice too.....
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9th even
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beautiful music chosen by boris, when the notes stop and we have left then all will be peaceful again
if we don't leave the notes will stab too sharply |
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music is like that
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When do we get to this bit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2G2sac9s34 |
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Hears two lawyers discussing the case last night on BBC News.
One of them stated that it is very difficult to draw conclusions from the questions and comments made by the various Justice's, they consciously ask difficult questions to both sides whilst being extremely careful to avoid being seen as showing favour to one side or the other. |
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Guy Verhofstadt tells MEPs "Juncker or Tusk can do a lot of things, but at least they cannot close the doors of our house"
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That's why there are so many gimmigrants flooding the continent innitt!
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Meanwhile …....
Chris Davies MEP ✔ @ChrisDaviesLD European Parliament has just voted 544-126 in support of UK being given an article 50 extension should the request be made. #StopBrexit |
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A strong question from Lord Sales, the latest addition to the Supreme Court, on the reasons for prorogation, who asks: "If there are constitutional principles that are required to be policed, isn't it more appropriate for the court to do it rather than for the Queen to be sucked in?
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a strong counter argument could be made for removing the queen from the requirement
to sign the paperwork. but it does seem as if she is left in the lurch by government on many occasions, (not just this government) |
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David Allen Green
@davidallengreen Interesting that there is now not even any lip-service at the Supreme Court that the prorogation was for a new Queen's Speech Government submissions seem to be that the prorogation power stands, whatever its purpose and effect |
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I have sent the wife out for some popcorn and some straws for remainians to clutch.
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As long as it wasnt illegal , and it wasn’t
that’s fine |
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yeah, he wouldnt want to bring that up anyway, they've already proved the lie.
pretty sure others will. |
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They really haven’t a clue , this is a complete waste of time :)
Parliament was prorogued and there is nothing the remainers or courts can do |
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If the government hadn't attempted to subvert the accepted procedures of protocol we wouldn't have this issue of the Courts overriding Parliamentry process ... a sad state when a Gov't attempts to ride roughshod over democracy. They might win the legal argument but the use of prorogation is going to be used much more by Gov'ts in the future and it will erode the whole priciple of decency and honesty.
That will be the legacy of Bojo & Cummings ... Brexit will be a footnote in history in comparison |
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That is a matter for the government in power
If you don’t like it vote them out |
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These afeard to have an election .
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I don’t think the remainers like democracy
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When they lose
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the court can decide that they have power to act over prorogation, ...that seems to have increased in chance,from
start of the trial, as many loopholes and limitless powers have been exposed. but then they may decide that on this occasion that enough notice was given, and procedure was correct. ??? |
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Ah no yhtl , the only correct decision they can come to us that proragation was legal
That’s all |
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i was talking to geordie, its a sensible post to reply to
who could deny that |
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Unless you are going to say that boris should have been stopped ,forced
from proroguing By whom exactly ? |
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they aint happy that nobody has signed off the documents as being honest and complete
thats the biggest government stumbling block |
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donny - lfc will be up in arms about the bias of the judiciary if the gov't lose
Lord Wilson acting some relevant comments ... "why are no material witnesses appearing on behalf of this government" ... was what they said about prorogation the truth ... of course we know the answer! It might not be a foregone conclusion as to the decision the court might make |
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Dominic Casciani
Home Affairs Correspondent The exchange between Lady Black and Sir James Eadie - and the earlier intervention from Lord Sales - feel important. They both go to a wider concept of parliamentary supremacy than the one the government is promoting. The government in essence is telling the court that parliamentary sovereignty means the right to make/break laws and that’s about it. Opponents say sovereignty also means the right to take any steps necessary to hold an allegedly dodgy prime minister to account. |
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lol any steps necessary
That’s ok and the elected government can also take @“ zany steps necessary “. Good |
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i think the court has decided it can rule on the prorogation
i just dont see what johnson has done wrong except to lie to the queen, which can be dealt with elsewhere without making the prorogation illegal. |
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I suspect that we'll end up with a ruling that doesn't declare the prorogation as illegal, but will state that the government MAY have acted with improper purpose and caution should be exercised to avoid the possibility of future improper purpose.
They may be a bit bolder with their wording, but it will essentially amount to no more than a rap on the knuckles. Both sides will then claim it as a victory. |
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The government has unwavering power and there's some who defend it just because it their guy in the hot seat
Sorry but they have no power, absolutely zip, they might have "power" down there in westminster but you know how much that means in the real world? absolutely zilch "we'll make new laws" |
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remainers pretending they know what boris said to the Queen now :(
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