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If you are truly socialist you wouldn't be swayed solely on Brexit like that article makes out, and you certainly would not be voting Nigel Farage's Brexit Party.
The constant making out of a u-turn is absolutely nonsense, there is no u-turn, it was literally in the 2017 Labour manifesto the Labour government rejects no deal and a bad Conservative Brexit, again today they reiterated they are against these 2 things and will back a referendum and remain against them. It also focuses way too much on the very basic premise of a Labour constituency voted leave = the voters voted leave. The data shows this isn't true, Labour's voters lean towards remain everywhere, so saying 70% of their constituencies voted leave is way too basic, how did the actual Labour voters vote in those constituencies. Given numbers I remember seeing when I saw this show 70% leave seats it was like 55% leave of actual Labour voters I would guess the number is way lower than 70% of constituencies did the Labour voters vote leave. The icing on the cake might be at the end though where it talks about Labour always being for among other things factory workers, you have to be not on this planet to think Brexit will be good for factory workers, it will be disastrous for them. |
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n88uk, i saw most of the data labour leave got..it worked out 65% voted remain 35% voted leave labour voters on the day..your way out about leave constituencies in those WC voters voted 3/1 for leave, labour voters in some cases were 2/1..but not all WC vote labour..(they used too) but it wont matter now...
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The data shows Labour voters leaned towards remain everywhere, obviously the more leave the area, the more likely they were to be leave. It would also be interesting to know what portion of those that voted leaver and Labour support no deal or the Tory Brexit deal so far, as that will be an even lower number. I mean those who voted Labour and support no deal pretty much must have not paid any attention to Labour's manifesto last election.
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Labour could never win an election anyway with enabling a tory brexit,this way they might just keep it to a minority government i gace up on labour winning an election months ago..Johnson will leave with no deal,then you can see for yourself what a tory johnson brexit looks like,come back in twelve months and say how great it's working out for everyone especially for the north,let's see how happy they are and how their lives have been improved...
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Can launch your socialist experiment when the USA has come around to socialism.
The American left are amazing. (Always have been; see Paul Robeson) There's just not enough of them. watch this.... is was in tears of joy and admiration many times watching this. Hope you can get Netflix, or watch your mates. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wGZc8ZjFY4 |
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Greater Manchester Brexit vote,8 Districts voted to leave and 3 voted to remain.
Deliberate attempt to grossly mislead. I was talking about the great city of Manchester. Greater Manchester and The city of Manchester are absolutely not the same thing. MANCHESTER SHOWED FARAGE HIS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS and thats a fact. |
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POSSIBLY THE BEST POLITICS THREAD EVER. IN TERMS OF ACTUAL POLITICS. WELL DONE EVERYONE. ESPECIALLY TONY. HOPE YOU ARE A REAL SOCIALIST. IF YOU ARE WE WILL GET YOU TO SEE THE LIGHT. IF YOU ARE STAYING WITH SPIKED AND ACCEPT THE WORKING CLASS VOTING WITH FARAGE. KEEP UP THE PROVOCATION. IT PUTS THE REST OF US IN A VERY GOOD LIGHT.
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Re AOC. One million views since April only for an American socialist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wGZc8ZjFY4 |
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tony57 • July 9, 2019 10:08 PM BST
POLITICS until brexit is sorted we cannot sort out the NHS Why not? |
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I would've assumed the NHS of all things is the big beneficiary of EU membership. Keeping prices down and stuff.
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Tears of joy? That's the problem with the left emotion eclipses reality.
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Will you be supporting boris or hunt, flush?
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Tears of joy? That's the problem with the left emotion eclipses reality.
What a vacuous comment. Watch knock the house down if you have normal human emotions. Enjoy. An American Socialist has a million views since April already. With many many more to come. Thats reality. And the right wing are terrified. AOC. One million views since April only. For an American socialist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wGZc8ZjFY4 |