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55% of people wish to remain
skywalker she aint an mp, its pointed out to you and you abuse the bloke that helped you. shes leader of scottish nationalists and may have a major say in next uk government, at which point her nationality will be used against her funny old world innit best joke of the week was her comment on may... tried to fall on her sword, ...and missed |
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55% of people wish to remain, was that from a Carlsberg poll donny
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i'm sure you can do google
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but you dont seem to get that all countrys within the UK have to respect the 2016 vote, parliament set article 50 in motion therefore scotland has to leave as well, scotland voted 62-38 but my home town voted 31-69, its the whole number that matters not just scotland the whole number that matters not just scotland Scotland is not a Country! |
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You are effectively saying that any person that is elected to any parliament by constituents shouldn't actually represent them. They should represent other constituencies or countries. I suggest you smash your head against the wall PP Do you really think the people you are arguing with have the capacity to u derstand that doh |
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6 k to go for the 6 million, if anybodys not bothered then just sign it, please
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cheers
6.0 million |
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donny, punter wasnt listening to me, i said the snp have to respect the vote and not try to frustrate the process, thats why were in this mess because the snp, labour and a lot off tories simply do not want brexit and will try anything to stop the process or a get a softer brexit. this made me laugh
"Mr Gauke reiterated his opposition to a no deal Brexit, warning he would leave government if such a policy was pursued. A no deal Brexit would mean cutting ties with the European Union immediately and defaulting to World Trade Organisation rules for trade. Tom Watson said there was an "emerging consensus" among Labour MPs. He said: "Whatever the deal looks like - and we understand there has to be compromises - if it's underpinned by a People's Vote that is the way we can bring the country back together." Speaking on Sky News, shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry said under a Labour government it was "likely" that the UK would leave the European Union. When asked if Labour was a Remain party, Ms Thornberry replied: "In our hearts we want to remain but we have to square that with democracy. "If the people want us to leave we have to leave." but labours version of leave is in the customs union and single market and accepting free movement, that isnt brexit by any stretch of the immagination nor is the idea that we should stay in the customs union, no deal is the only way forward and cut ties with the eu straight away, thats what the 17.4 million voted for, leave means leave not bits and pieces |
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It's that kind of attitude that makes Sturgeon's stance valid though. You are interested in respecting the wishes of the leave voters but want to completely ignore what the 48% would want.
No consensus whatsoever. No compromise. You go down that route then Scotland have got every right to say they're being completely ignored and want to fight to get their voices heard. Nobody voted for no deal. It was never on the table. We were told there would be deals agreed before we left, that we'd have a deal agreed with the EU by the time we left. Absolutely nobody voted to go out with no deals in place with any country in the world. But you now say that opinion overrides everyone else's and seem surprised when people tell you to do one. I mean, really. |
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we voted for a choice leave or remain, remain voters shouldnt have any say really because they didnt win the vote, if remain had won we wouldve all happily gone about our business, its remain voters who cant accept the result and will try everything to stop it, may has tried to please all voters with her deal but it doesnt wash with hard brexiters or remain mps, i take it youre a remainer then pineapple
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but if its no deal or no brexit, im with no deal 100%, the longer it drags on the more likely were heading to stay in the eu, people voted to leave preferably with a deal but if brexit gets delayed even further or god forbid a soft brexit im sure leave voters wwould take no deal
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thee world wont end because we dont have a deal, life will go on, short term pain for long term gain
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we have a deal but the majority of parliament wont sign because they want to stay in the eu and frustrate the process until wwe either get a soft brexit or no brexit at all
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its the attitude of remainers that have landed us in this mess be it mps or the general public
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"Always someone else's fault." It may as well have been on the side of the Leave bus.
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mays deal isnt perfect but at least lets us leave the eu but everyone elses solution ties us in to the eu even more, another remoaner united then i take it
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Yes. Remain could be the will of the people, lord skywalker, sensible to check.
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there is no winning this one as all remainers wont accept any less than a soft brexit which might as well be no brexit at all, very sad day for british democracy
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but a soft brexit is covered by what the 52% voted for....leave
if you wish to specify something else, start a petition, pretty sure another referendum could be arranged |
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pretty sure another referendum could be arranged- In a heartbeat.
If we can scare up the pencil and paper to vote in the European elections at short notice, we could potentially hold a referendum a week on Thursday. ![]() |
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6,054,425 still going up.
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looks like may has thrown in the towel early, brexit cancelled or at least a very very soft brexit, no point in leavin then, customs union single market and free movement all retained
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theres a no deal petition on the go...
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pret a manger said a couple of days ago 1/50 applicants are british, we will soon not be very british at all, even where i work 66% of all workers are asian/eastern european, more people in work than ever before according to the govermeant, so where are all the british workers then
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Thing is, it would be hooky if there were lots of British applicants but they kept choosing foreigners for the jobs.
Simple fact is Brits are seeing these jobs but simply aren't interested in doing them. Yet we expect brits to suddenly decide to do them if foreigners stop coming. Fanciful. |
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British folks are probably just as well off on the dole as taking these minimum wage jobs.
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What no one seems to understand these people love the work,the service industry the polidh for example if you go on holiday anywhere in britain they do everything with a smile and a thankyou always immaculate with uniforms always say hello...us a grunt and a ffs,makes absolutely no sense we won't do the work i know i wouldn't
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most are here just to work and are planning on going back home(or send money home) so they live in standards that most brits wouldnt put up with to save more money
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I was at the lake district at the weekend. The non-British staff were immaculate and very polite. It's the same everywhere in that chain of hotels.
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When you are an immigrant in a country it is more likely you will live in cheap accommodation in a house of multiple occupation with others from your country or in a similar position. The social life is usually with the people you live or work with ans the working hours are long to compensate for low wages.
Who wants to live a life like that for any period of time or if you have a family? What sort of quality of life is that? I don't blame the foreigners for taking the opportunity. Good luck to them. I work with some of them. I would like to see people who have been on the dole for a long time to be forced to work if they want benefits. The trouble is the system is skewed and there are plenty of people exploiting it. I would love to know how many part time workers who with BHS had their rent or mortgage paid bu us the tax payer! Employers are exploiting this and their wages are subsidised by us the tax payer. This has to change. Housing benefit needs to be looked at. We have a shortage of housing and our infra structure needs rebuilding. If people want benefit and a roof over their heads they should be prepared to work for it. Too many businesses are exploiting low paid workers. |
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If folks are in a council house where they are better off on the dole than take a minimum wage low hours job, why should they work?
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True,
But they should not be in a position that they are better off by not working, shame on us! |
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The only solution is to increase the minimum wage.
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This is what tories want to do force people into work on low wages,it's glaringly obvious thought that was obvious to everyone,they can't be trusted that's why brexit is a nightmare...
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A sad state of affairs when these are valid points of discussion in the world's fifth largest economy.
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Forget the Tories. We need to have a future and a life not slavery. Finding out you will not be working today because your immediate boss has had a bad day and decides he will make someone else's life as miserable as his or hers.
Young people should be able to get an education. We need them to for our futures. People on low wages need to be able to afford a comfortable place to live. We need to build houses, not via just the private sector but old fashioned Council Houses. There are plenty on the dole who can learn a trade or labour. Living on the dole should not be a lifestyle CHOICE! Anyone who has not worked for a year must be sent in to work. |
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No they shouldn't, not when they would be financially worse off.
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rents have to come down and that would also bring the housing benefit down but that will result in house prices going down which would result in the government who did this to get voted out at the next election
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They should be better off when working. the system is wrong and needs changing.
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It won't change because the government do not wish to increase the minimum wage as it will affect businesses that support conservatives.
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