No Deal Motion

and can you explain why? I don't understand, commentary and many voices within the Commons said it was certain to be defeated by a wide margin

mrs may thinks she can try again with no deal off table and an extension but erg/dodds have already tabled a motion to delay to may 22
but for the eu to grant that to may and erg/dodds it means EU  opening up withdrawl bill and moving more on the backstop,that would be a huge climdown for EU and throwing Dublin under the bus, think they,ll only offer a deal on soft/customs Brexit,2nd reff,gen e,
don't think they,ll offer an extension of 21 months say just so may can try and blackmail mp,s and resurrect her deal for a 3rd time, [ either ]

It's because the motion is worded "this House declines to approve leaving the European Union without a withdrawal agreement." So the House will agree with the motion, hence "yes." Now its 1.07.

seems BBC have a different understanding
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46393399

No way are they letting you leave its as simple as that

They have cheated, backstabbed and bulls****** their way to a remain

Disgusting bunch of s****

bonkers market, Alan.

Surely you can back NO leave by 29th at 1.15 and lay 1.04 on the no deal motion.
Just no liquidity

Mar 12, 2019 -- 10:25PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

No way are they letting you leave its as simple as thatThey have cheated, backstabbed and bulls****** their way to a remain Disgusting bunch of s****

She is an insidious beast and should be tried as a traitor.
Surreptitiously working with Drunker and Barny behind the scenes to make sure chaos ensues and Brexit is cancelled.

Mar 12, 2019 -- 11:38PM, jucel69 wrote:

Surely you can back NO leave by 29th at 1.15 and lay 1.04 on the no deal motion. Just no liquidity

And are then finished if the EU reject an extension.

Mar 12, 2019 -- 11:51PM, n88uk wrote:

Mar 12, 2019 -- 10:38PM, jucel69 wrote:Surely you can back NO leave by 29th at 1.15 and lay 1.04 on the no deal motion. Just no liquidityAnd are then finished if the EU reject an extension.

Can they refuse?

Yes.

Any 1 of the 27 member states could refuse in fact.

let's hope so!! So if just one member refuses we go out on 29th?

Maybe somebody with a bit of cash needs to bribe one of the smaller countries to let us leave by refusing the extension.

Mar 13, 2019 -- 12:01AM, n88uk wrote:

Any 1 of the 27 member states could refuse in fact.

Thinking about it, she would then pull A50 one way or another

The general consensus is they will grant us an extension of like 8 weeks to do who knows what.

Mar 13, 2019 -- 1:14AM, n88uk wrote:

The general consensus is they will grant us an extension of like 8 weeks to do who knows what.

malthouse compromise?

if just one refuses extension then you cant have it, the malthouse compromise allows free  movement doesnt it, one of the main reasons for leaving the eu

The Malthouse Compromise Plan B talks about a transition period after no deal for Britain to get ready, something already flat out rejected by the EU. There is no transition period without an agreement.

just another unicorn ,commons repeatedly voting for things the EU  wont allow,meanwhile in blighty mays keeps refusing to offer legaly binding votes on things that may get a majority in the commons,
a nano second after boris mentioned basically the malthouse compromise in the commons  during yesterdays debate ,barnier who,s listening to every word went on twitter to say forget it no chance
whats really getting my goat is the likes of zhwani on newsnight last night,not so cleverly on news today blaming labour, with a mixture of 75 tory remainers, erg and dup,theres no way any tory including mrs may wanted that vote won last night on labour votes,we,d now be talking no confidence votes,leadership battles,GE,s, complete lying bluffers

why do the media always say all 27 countries have to agree on anything ? everyone knows they'll all fall into line with whatever germany wants. they know where their bread's buttered

if mrs may brings her deal back again the question she needs to answer or be asked in the commons is will she accept her deal going through
without the dup and 20 hardline erg voting for it
said a million times before but as labour are in disarray and need torys to be in equal disarray to have a chance,why don't labour throw a dup fox into a tory henhouse and vote the deal through
it will almost certainly get them the GE threy say they want and split the tory party

I guess because they have calculated Labour would not win a majority and would have to take charge of Brexit. It they then refused to stop freedom of movement they would be out of power forever as they would not be able to win outside London again.

Who would be winning the Labour heartlands then?

It's bizarre that some folks on here think all labour remain voters outside of London are now going to vote conservative.

I don't buy for a second there's any major move of Labour leave voters to Conservative or anywhere full stop either.

Well, who would win " outside of London" and particularly in the north, if not labour?

what is going on now mps pulling their own amendments???shambolic to say the least

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It's bizarre that some folks on here think all labour remain voters outside of London are now going to vote conservative.

^

No one is suggesting that.

Well, what exactly are you suggesting?

they've already lost 3 mp,s to independent group,without the dup onside theres no government

How long can we go on with this farcical situation?  A general election may be the only option shortly.

still no attempt at a compromise!



ammendments are often not moved, because they are tabled as a device
or threat. once the mover is content they get what they want from the vote
there becomes no point in advancing the ammendment to a vote.

May has no majority that's been obvious for a long time

She should be forced to leave, and if she doesn't they should all walk out ffs

MPs just voted to take no deal off the table.

Just shows how clueless they are.

Have they ever done a real job in their lives?

Negotiation over.

Whatever the EU wants we have to agree to now.

Although this is not law thank goodness.

I think that this will inevitably lead to revoking article 50 as the EU will never offer an acceptable deal after that.

No deal finished,nice.

Non-binding.

UKIP v2 anyone?

Well I have to apologise ,the MP's clearly DO understand more than us , cus I aint got a clue wtf all these votes are about tonight

However Moggy reckons its all BS and doesn't change a thing

That was much closer than I thought it would be, I think we need best out of 3

50.33% v 49.7% its a draw ffs

Remainer MPs reject Brexit.

What a surprise.

What a total and utter disgrace.

All dressed up as concern for the voters instead of naked self interest by our representatives.

msr may going to  bring her deal back but even if speaker allows it, she gets it down to 20/30 its still a loss
and what  you've got to remember although very entertaining for us, for the likes of steve baker,mark francois its their 5 mins of fame,if they climbdown now ,they,ll be remembered as going fritt,even a 2 year extension keeps them in the public eye,where as if they pass it through after backing down,their input in any transation will be ridiculed,add in the tory remainers and even if the dup embarrass themselves with an almighty climbdown,the numbers wont add up

lets be honest like farage, ukip after the deal goes through ,the likes of francois,baker, become nobodies , they aint really bothered, its like chatting up a bird when you were young,its the chase that gets the testosterone going not the winning

Meanwhile Jezza banging on about yet another election is like a dog chasing after a car,even if he caught it he wouldn't know what happens next !

would be tory leaders/PM SGT PIKE,THE SADGE.jezza cooont,  gluttons for punishment not happy with defeat after defeat supporting the government ,they went against may and took another hammering voting for malthouse,hoping to curry favour with erg brexiteers, must be doing their conkers at Cheltenham

nigel farage,tory mp,s been visiting euro sceptics in Poland etc to get them to veto anu uk calls for an extension

BRING BACK CONTROL

BRING BACK CONTROL

BRING BACK CONTROL

reports that some in erg will vote for deal if may resigns,

shoite deal for a shoite PM


SOUNDS LIKE 2 wannabee high rollers in vegas going all in with a pair of 3,s and a pair of 4,s between them,


quote of the night from tory minister who said we,ve just thrown a hand grenade into our own house

Yep,  and coming out shortly battered and bruised waving the white flag to the EU, who barely fired a shot.

Ok, I know nobody likes a "told you so" but I told you so

-  Nobody will be happy in the end-up, Leavers or Remainers
-  Ireland will screw the whole thing up (not for them, but for us (and by us I mean Scot. Nats)