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By:
dambuster
When: 28 Apr 17 20:32
Amazing
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 29 Apr 17 12:07
Not one could answer his question which was simple enough.

''Why do you describe me as far right?''

Everybody seems unable to justify why they call him far right.

To call someone far-right is to associate them with fascism. Yet I doubt if they could explain what fascism is either.   

Take Labour and their problems with anti-Semitism. Does anybody ever them call them far right?
Yet the BNP were tarred with the far-right brush from the word go. And they're no worse than many members of the Labour party.
By:
enpassant
When: 29 Apr 17 13:19
What anti semitism in Labour are you referring to exactly ?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 29 Apr 17 15:11
Which one do want empassant?

Here take your pick:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/18/labour-antisemitism-jews-jeremy-corbyn

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/713743/anti-semitism-norm-Labour-Party-Jewish-MP-reveals-racism-rife

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36157027

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/12193925/The-Labour-Party-is-increasingly-anti-Semitic.html

There's plenty more out there as well if that isn't enough.
By:
enpassant
When: 29 Apr 17 17:26
Anti Semites such as Gerry Downing have been expelled, Vicky Kirby suspended but these individuals and others, have been called what they are and dealt with.Splitting hairs about how to define this individual only takes way from what he is. Call him far right or simply racist, either way he is what he is.
By:
broadsword
When: 29 Apr 17 19:02
"racist"........oh that beautyLaugh
By:
enpassant
When: 29 Apr 17 20:28
Aah more of the smiley face.
By:
CJ70
When: 29 Apr 17 20:53

Apr 29, 2017 -- 5:26PM, enpassant wrote:


Anti Semites such as Gerry Downing have been expelled, Vicky Kirby suspended but these individuals and others, have been called what they are and dealt with.Splitting hairs about how to define this individual only takes way from what he is. Call him far right or simply racist, either way he is what he is.


Anti-semites are rife in the Labour party. Those who have been suspended have been let back in. Possibly the most high profile anti-semite was kept in the party.

You don't solve a problem with anti-semitism by saying it doesn't exist and shouting troll at anyone who challenges you.

By:
enpassant
When: 29 Apr 17 21:04
Troll
By:
CJ70
When: 29 Apr 17 21:11

Apr 29, 2017 -- 9:04PM, enpassant wrote:


Troll


Well, that says it all. Why post if you aren't willing to debate your opinion?

I don't know if you are used to people just agreeing with you, but posting 'troll' because you can't think of anything to back up your opinion is pretty poor form.

By:
broadsword
When: 29 Apr 17 21:15
enpassant ...........please list a few of the "racist" comments or actions of tommy robinson


thankyou in advance
By:
enpassant
When: 29 Apr 17 23:41
He, along with several of his mates, bravely racially abusing ( and not so brightly, videoing it themselves)a London underground worker.



He exposes his views to scrutiny (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg1O-SBJ8UY)and the utter hypocricy in his ideology



That he is being (only by comparison to his earlier self) cuter now, about his darker side for his own benefit does not change his inate bigotry.

Such discourse as this can often degenerate into semantics. For me his words and actions speak loudly.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Apr 17 23:48
enpassant
What anti semitism in Labour are you referring to exactly ?


I had the same problem as you enpas. I mean there is so much of it. People need to be specific.
By:
enpassant
When: 30 Apr 17 01:02
Individuals are what they are. Sweeping generalisations do an injustice to issues. UKIP supporters tend to say a few bad apples ect but then when other organisations have issues the entire thing is blamed. People want to have it both ways.
By:
Pounf
When: 01 May 17 11:58
Chakrabarti`s investigation into anti semitism in the Labour party led to her getting into the House of Lords and not much else
By:
1st time poster
When: 01 May 17 15:11
so what if robinsons storys,videos etc wernt done by him but lets say for example chris brunt on sky would yopu be calling brunt far right,racist etc,
you seem to be saying the videos etc are correct but the messenger wrong
By:
enpassant
When: 01 May 17 15:25
I am not sure that was directed at me but if so : I go along with the law. I hold individuals responsible for their actions. I believe he (is a racist) wants to earn from all this and is using this very divisive message to do that and in doing so is pandering to bigotry knowing that is his audience in the main.
If you are referring to any particular video I am willing to look at it and answer specifically.
By:
broadsword
When: 07 May 17 22:28
https://youtu.be/3grn84gya58
By:
akabula
When: 07 May 17 22:39
What very divisive message enpassant?
Can you show a clip of him being racist?
By:
posy
When: 08 May 17 11:53
Unpleasant fellow ;should be in prison for life to save time and money for continually being imprisoned/released/imprisoned/released; scum who contributes nothing to society.
By:
moisok
When: 08 May 17 12:15
posy - what has he done to you - it must have been something quite horrible.

Mind you, I suppose going against the mainstream or establishment view of islam will always draw a great deal of anger and invective.

It is incorrect to attack a religion.  However in this case it is a cult and not a religion.

But writing in the guardian in its favour is fine. This is typical mainstream approved story telling to deflect from the major problems Islam faces.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/08/combat-radicalisation-hope-security-regressive-utopias-extremists#comment-98107592
By:
enpassant
When: 08 May 17 13:21
Aka : I can only assume your first question is rhetorical.
However your second is more problematic. The original story was on the news, quite some time ago, and was used in an interview with him. I have searched for it but cannot find it anywhere.
By:
tony57
When: 08 May 17 16:48
may i remind you the jewish population continue to vote labour more than any other party...livingston and a few momentum nuts who go on about conspiracys is not a problem inside the labour party..its blown out of all preportion..ive been to many meetings and never ..repeat never saw or herd any such anti jewish retoric..corbyn showed his incompetence by the way he handled this sham of a inquiry
By:
tony57
When: 08 May 17 16:50
tommy robinson..is right wing ,is he far right?thats for others to judge!
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 08 May 17 17:08
Has Tommy Robinson ever said what he politics are?

To me, left is public ownership and right is private ownership.

Why should being anti Islam put anyone on the right or the left?
By:
moisok
When: 08 May 17 17:32
I read something the other day.

goes like this

'why invite something in that wants to destroy you'?
By:
jed.davison
When: 08 May 17 18:12
In a Jewish Chronicle poll in May last year tony57, only 8.5% of respondents said they would be voting Labour. So remind everyone whatever you like, but make it accurate.
By:
jed.davison
When: 08 May 17 18:19
Also, it's my understanding that you are a Northerner, so it's unlikely the sort of Labour people you would have mixed with would be guilty of the sort of casual and institutional anti-semitism which absolutely infests the Labour Party in North London - the clique which currently has control of Labour.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 08 May 17 18:31
It doesn't really matter whether he's left or right wing he has been a criminal and
broken the Law and deserves no respect from anyone.He is an outspoken brat who is
out to divide people.
By:
jed.davison
When: 08 May 17 18:36
No he isn't. He's out to save people.
By:
jed.davison
When: 08 May 17 18:37
In a way he's very similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses - he may not be all that popular, but he's only trying to help.
By:
Breedingmad
When: 08 May 17 18:41
He's a bit like the bloke with the placard "The End of the World is nigh!"
By:
jed.davison
When: 08 May 17 18:45
Sadly, both will be right in the end.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 08 May 17 21:52
It's amazing how this pure racism in the Labour party hasn't blown up in Labour's face and been splashed all over the pages of the press ad nauseam.

Think of how it's being swept under the carpet, and contrast it to the situation we had at last GE, when the slightest hint of racism from anyone connected with UKIP was guaranteed to be on the national news for days on end.

Now watch Anna Soubry lashing McDonnell on Question Time over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyjM9TY8dcQ
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 08 May 17 21:56
''She added to gasps from the audience: “And I tell you something else Mr McDonnell, you are a very nasty piece of work.”

“There are colleagues of mine in House of Commons, Labour MPs, who are at the point of being terrorist by McDonnell and his cronies,” she said.

“There are women MPs who suffer day in and day out from misogynist, unpleasant, sexist abuse on Twitter, on Facebook, from people who are apparently within their own party.

“There is a Jewish Labour MP, a women, who is living in safe house because of the level of anti-Semitism she has to bear.”


Soubry said many Labour MPs were “so frightened, humiliated, almost terrorised by Mr McDonnell and his gang they will leave politics”.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bbc-question-time-descends-into-angry-row-as-anna-soubry-brands-john-mcdonnell-a-nasty-piece-of-work_uk_57db2292e4b028e52a100b91
By:
pulpaden
When: 09 May 17 00:15
A far right movement is one that promotes a political ideology that rejects the principle of human equality !!
By:
akabula
When: 09 May 17 00:17
Well that applies to Labour surely.
By:
akabula
When: 09 May 17 00:17
Still waiting on someone producing a clip of TR being racist.
By:
pulpaden
When: 09 May 17 00:21
Wasn't TR once a member of a racist organisation called the BNP ?
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