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By:
paddletoe
When: 21 Jun 16 21:40
The worst statement of tonight had to be the one when the tory leave mp said 60% of uk laws are controlled by the eu. In practical terms that is simply an untruth and a deliberate distortion of the facts.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 21 Jun 16 21:44
We last had a vote on this over 40 years ago. We have had no vote on new countries joining since.

Could Turkey or Albania or Serbia or Ukraine or any other country join in the next 40 years. We are paying billions to prefer them to join. Why bother if it is not going to happen in the next thousand years?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 21 Jun 16 21:44
* prepare them to join
By:
ZenMaster
When: 21 Jun 16 21:45
paddletoe

Law is extremely complex and depending on what you fix that Law to, gives you a different percentage. Try this link.

https://fullfact.org/europe/two-thirds-uk-law-made-eu/
By:
Platini
When: 21 Jun 16 21:53
doesn't really matter what the percentage is, its the fact that the EU have control over many of the most important laws in the land
By:
dalbers
When: 21 Jun 16 21:54

Jun 21, 2016 -- 4:32PM, Real Deal wrote:


Will  they declare that Duncan Cox is standing as the Mp for Batley Tomorrow or are they worried about his scandle etc coming out.One way or another the real worse dirty tricks are yet to be played.It's scary,nothing will be low enough to play out.


Brendan Cox's awkward exit from a lucrative charity post last autumn is already well documented online and would certainly be dredged up if he's put forward as his wife's potential successor as MP for Batley & Spen.

By:
paddletoe
When: 21 Jun 16 21:55
I am pretty sure zen master that statement is not true in reality/practise. To use it smacked of desperation and having no other better argument to put forward.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 21 Jun 16 21:56
Tracey O'Grady has now aligned herself with Stephen Kinnock in caling for high skilled highly paid jobs.They haven't created any as yet themselves.Nothing like spouting populist rhetoric to get support.
By:
jucel69
When: 21 Jun 16 21:58

Jun 21, 2016 -- 4:14PM, BIG CAT LEON LETT wrote:


let me tell you this i'm an expert and a human rights activist


The EU don't care about human rights ffs

By:
ZenMaster
When: 21 Jun 16 21:59
paddletoe

It is fair to use the 60% statement, the % is subjective though, but still fair.

The latest figure has been calculated by the campaign group Business for Britain, which says that 64.7% of UK law is influenced by the EU. It offers this as the "definitive" calculation, but also cautions that "any attempt to make sense of the numbers is highly subjective".
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 21 Jun 16 22:04
10000 employees of the EU getting paid more than the Prime Minister.Surely not.
By:
Real Deal
When: 21 Jun 16 22:04
Dalbers,that may be why they might leave it until the last moment.There would be no time to refute it.I think his announcing to stand,would help the remain camp,Big Style.

I am just thinking that the dastardly deeds department have much more work to do.Right up until 10pm on Thursday.

But could Leave still have a Bombshell to play ?.

I just think that there is something big yet to be played in this debate.You just wait & see Mischief

This is like Casperoff x Game of Thrones stuff.

If it wasn't so so Real & Important it would be an amazing Edge of the seat Blockbuster.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 21 Jun 16 22:05
Regardless they work hard for the money.Gauche caviar they are not.
By:
paddletoe
When: 21 Jun 16 22:07
To be fair the direct question by Boris that the eu is the supreme court of Britain was one he did not even get a reply from the other side and he directed his question to the man in his old job and it was prefixed by stating the legal background of the person he asked the question.
It was a simple and direct question but nothing came back from the other side.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 21 Jun 16 22:08
Labour leader is not gauche caviar.Respect.The rest of his mob are very much gauche caviar.
By:
CJ70
When: 21 Jun 16 22:08

Jun 21, 2016 -- 4:59PM, ZenMaster wrote:


paddletoeIt is fair to use the 60% statement, the % is subjective though, but still fair.The latest figure has been calculated by the campaign group Business for Britain, which says that 64.7% of UK law is influenced by the EU. It offers this as the "definitive" calculation, but also cautions that "any attempt to make sense of the numbers is highly subjective".


This is a couple of years out of date but this is Parliament on the matter.

https://commonslibraryblog.com/2014/06/02/how-much-legislation-comes-from-europe/

By:
paddletoe
When: 21 Jun 16 22:11
Depends on your definition of things and weighting factor you put on the importance and day to day relevance of things rather than sheer numbers.
By:
ZenMaster
When: 21 Jun 16 22:17
Cheers for that link CJ70

Slightly less as a percentage but it is the subjectiveness of including or excluding EU regulations.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 22 Jun 16 00:42
the gauche caviar will be proud when their offspring serve in the Euro army.Private Umoona,private Abot and captain Balls.Kinnocks will be working in their father's thriving business which he is going to set up paying high wages for high skilled jobs.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 22 Jun 16 00:52
Which countries citizens will be the cannon fodder do you reckon if we have to go to war?Unless off course all regiments are like French Foreign Legion and made up of citizens from former independent Euro countries.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 22 Jun 16 00:58
The integration of people from different backgrounds and heritages could prove tricky within different regiments.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 22 Jun 16 01:03
Throw all euro flags in the skip,lets all unite behind the blue one with stars.Nationalist tendencies are sure to dissapear soon.Very little evidence for any nationalism in Europe at present.
By:
BIG CAT LEON LETT
When: 22 Jun 16 01:30
Let's say that a decision is taken by a British person in high command to send some Irish battalion to a war zone and they are subsequently wiped out because of poor intel and equipment.Would this not cause resentment between Ireland and the UK?Given their history and all that.
By:
akabula
When: 22 Jun 16 06:51
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By:
brigust1
When: 22 Jun 16 07:33
DAVID CAMERON climbed down on controversial trade union reforms to secure union support for the EU referendum Remain campaign in an echo of the "cash for questions" scandal, a leading Eurosceptic has claimed.

Bernard Jenkin claimed No 10 instructed ministers to offer concessions on the Trade Union Bill over members opting in to political funds after discussions with union representatives in order to get their support for Remain.

The Conservative MP said it amounted to "the sale of Government policy for cash and political favours" and put the Government at the "rotten heart" of the European Union.
By:
FatherMaguire
When: 22 Jun 16 08:21
the fact that picture is a clenched fist probably says everything you need to know about the Brexit campaign
By:
akabula
When: 22 Jun 16 08:22
If yer not very clever I suppose it would.
By:
anxious
When: 22 Jun 16 08:37
What is this about dave and the unions?
By:
akabula
When: 22 Jun 16 08:39
An underhand pact it would seem.
By:
anxious
When: 22 Jun 16 08:43
The trade union bill was a vicious assault on the unions absolutely disgusting
By:
akabula
When: 22 Jun 16 08:48
I only skimmed the article anxious and won't be able to read it til much later tonight but deffo dodgy.
By:
anxious
When: 22 Jun 16 08:53
So Dave went creeping to the unions did he
By:
brigust1
When: 22 Jun 16 08:57
That is the under the table game changer here. Without that Corbyn and most of the Labour party would be for Brexit and the game would be over. Cameron knew this so formed an agreement with the unions that he would not implement the reforms from his 2015 Manifesto if the unions voted to Remain. It stinks.
By:
Shino
When: 22 Jun 16 09:23
An adaptation of an old Bob Dylan song(few alterations) will, hopefully, come to pass on Friday morning if the United Kingdom decides to vote out

Oh the Commissioners will rise
With the sleep still in their eyes
And they’ll jerk from their beds and think they’re dreaming’
But they’ll pinch themselves and squeal
And know that it’s for real
The hour when our ship comes in

Then they’ll raise their hands
Saying’ we’ll meet all your demands
But we’ll shout from the bow your days are numbered
And like Pharoah’s tribe
They’ll be drownded in the tide
And like Goliath, they’ll be conquered

........and we will be free!
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 22 Jun 16 19:30
I didn't watch it but took this from the Independant comments section

DOGGYWOGGYDOODAH
I was at that Wembley Arena debate and can tell you that Khan did NOT get the biggest applause. Boris did and won a fully deserved standing ovation.  Nobody on the remain side got a standing ovation.   I even saw remainers removing their remain stickers and applaud Boris.

Khan did share the accolade of getting the biggest boos with Ruth Davidson.  Also the audience openly laughed out very loud when she stated the ridiculous lie that the EU does not tell us what to do.
By:
Platini
When: 22 Jun 16 19:51
She was ridiculed by many in the audience for some of her lies and downright ignorance

Of course the Beeb never mention that Laugh
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