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Report par August 1, 2014 6:39 PM BST
perhaps he will interview the Australian again
Report Irish_Celtic August 1, 2014 7:23 PM BST
All I see is Hamas killing soldiers , and Israel killing civilians .

Maybe John Snow sees the same.
Report gus August 1, 2014 7:49 PM BST
more handwringing apologists.

How on earth do you expect a targeted operation  eliminating  terrorist tunnels to distinguish between a hole in the ground and a child in a hospital?

Collateral damage. Nothing to be seen here. Move along please ...
Report Room 0182 August 1, 2014 7:50 PM BST
What are the tunnels for Gus?
Report gus August 1, 2014 8:04 PM BST
dunno.

Look it up.

But I have to say that despite the infirmities of age, even I would be able to distinguish between a tunnel and a child.
Report Mexico August 1, 2014 8:16 PM BST
Gus, would you be able to tell the difference between using concrete to build housing & using concrete to build a tunnel?

Could you tell the difference between an organisation selling drugs/ computers/books/ food & a organisation selling explosive rockets?
Report gus August 1, 2014 8:20 PM BST
probably not.

Would I need to be able to in order to avoid murdering children?
Report Mexico August 1, 2014 8:31 PM BST
Yes you would Gus, buying rockets instead of drugs, is bad news for children.

Firing rockets at towns is not going to win an NSPCC award for caring for children.


Why don't you think you can tell the difference between buying a book and buying an explosive rocket? I would have thought an adult who does not have learning difficulties would be able to tell the difference.
Report gus August 1, 2014 8:45 PM BST
well, if they told me they were buying rockets, or books then of course i'd have take their word for it.

i'd have no other way of telling, just as if they told me they didn't possess any nuclear warheads i'd have to take their word for it until someone proved the contrary.

sadly, my investigative powers are somewhat limited, tho if i see the corpse of a child and a tank firing shells into the child's school or refuge, i do tend to jump to conclusions.
Report Mexico August 1, 2014 8:53 PM BST
Gus you don't seem to have been first in the queue when brains were being handed out.

Are you really saying you don't know the difference between buying books and buying rockets????

You must get some strange looks when you pop into WH Smiths for some Tomahawk cruise missiles. Are you allowed out in public on your own?
Report ExtremeX August 1, 2014 8:55 PM BST
how about an adult
who is batshiiit crazy,
would he be able to tell
the difference?

how about some lunatic
with nothing to do all day, would he
be able to tell the difference?

how about some lowlife
that life broke in two like a dried up twig,
would he be able to tell the
difference?

how about a cripple who's
riveted to a chair all day long
throwing his voice, would he be
able to tell the difference?

aaaah, so many questions
always the same ONE answer




wake up, gus
you are a clever man,
it's the same deranged man
hiding behind the curtain
Report gus August 1, 2014 8:58 PM BST
so, the logic, as i understand it is:

somoeone may be buying rockets when we expected them to be buying books, so let's kill some children.

you're right, i can't be very bright.
Report paddletoe August 1, 2014 9:03 PM BST
Only an unrepentant bigot
would use a word
twice in as many days
after his first post
was removed
for using the same nasty word
Report paddletoe August 1, 2014 9:05 PM BST
The Palestinion people who have lost their limbs might find it offensive to be called that word.
Report xmoneyx August 1, 2014 9:06 PM BST
http://w01.freezepage.com/a/14069/09211XPDLSKVFJP/0
Report Mexico August 1, 2014 9:07 PM BST
Gus we have established that logic is not your strong point.

Are you aware that people get hurt when you start firing rockets at your neighbours & building tunnels to attack your neighbours.

Can you tell the difference between between a rocket and a book? What is wrong with you?
Report gus August 1, 2014 9:17 PM BST
i understand the difference, it's the relevace that escapes me.
Report moisok August 1, 2014 9:21 PM BST
seems we have a problem
Report Mexico August 1, 2014 9:24 PM BST
Yep Gus I can understand how the relevance may escape you.

It is pretty much cutting edge PhD Statistics, but those OxBridge boffins have identified a correlation between firing rockets at your neighbours & getting weapons fired back.
Report gus August 1, 2014 9:29 PM BST
so what percentage of 1400 (and counting) people killed would you say have been firing rockets?
Report call me a taxi August 1, 2014 9:34 PM BST
is there spread betting on this?
Report call me a taxi August 1, 2014 9:35 PM BST
ExtremeX    01 Aug 14 20:55 
how about an adult
who is batshiiit crazy,
would he be able to tell
the difference?

how about some lunatic
with nothing to do all day, would he
be able to tell the difference?

how about some lowlife
that life broke in two like a dried up twig,
would he be able to tell the
difference?

how about a cripple who's
riveted to a chair all day long
throwing his voice, would he be
able to tell the difference?

aaaah, so many questions
always the same ONE answer


Get some crisps and beer in and settle down lads.

Menelaus is telling his life story.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 9:38 PM BST
paddletoe

It's not that big a deal or especially offensive in the grand scheme of things. I am not in the least ashamed to admit that my wife does indeed use a wheelchair and in Melly's words is a cripple and she herself describes her blue badge as her mong badge. You have to keep a sense of humour. Of course Melly doesn't have one.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 9:41 PM BST
I'm finding his little love affair with gus quite touching though. It could develpp into one of the forums crowning moments. He hasn't quite managed to reel gus in yet but so far he's done everything but dangle his own maggot in the water. Will gus bite? The forum awaits with bated breath.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 9:44 PM BST
gus

What pcentage of those 1400 have stopped those who are firing rockets? Surely the good guys outweigh the bad guys heavily in Gaza If the good citizens of Gaza have a quiet word in Hamas' shell like I'm sure they wll all be sat round the pool sharing a cold one by sunset tomorrow.
Report ExtremeX August 1, 2014 9:46 PM BST
there you go,gus
i smoked the broken man out for you
it was a question of how long it would take,
not if

gus, i hope you realize that
without you, me, and u/biscuits
posting here
all we'd have around the clock
is the same voice bouncing off the walls
-LITERALLY!!

but i am not telling you
anything you don't already know,
am i gus?Wink
Report broadsword August 1, 2014 9:52 PM BST
^ havent you forgot someone?
Report Irish_Celtic August 1, 2014 9:54 PM BST
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/01/who-is-behind-gaza-s-mass-e...
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 9:58 PM BST
To answer your question I'm pretty sure you aren't gus Melly. When I was a boy we didn't have much money and a Saturday treat was when our mum brought home a bag of broken biscuits from the market. For some reason the thought of those biscuits reminds me of you. Not the warm fuzzy feeling of a loving family having a simple treat. Just the broken bit. Just thik what they could do if they put your brain back together and think of all the spare bits they'd have after they had swept up the crumbs.
Report gus August 1, 2014 10:00 PM BST
so, the idea is that if you don't prevent other people from doing what they consider appropriate, you are guilty by association and deserve to share in collective punishment?

there are international laws against that kind of rationalisation, and for good reasons which, hopefully,  i don't need to rehearse here.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:04 PM BST
No. I'm very much against collective punishment gus. It's a very useful recruiting tool. I'm also against hiding guns and rockets amongst civilian populations, schools and hospitals knowing full well what will happen. I'd like to see the people of Palestine saying collectively that they disagree with such action

Would you agree that is barbaric of Hamas gus?
Report gus August 1, 2014 10:10 PM BST
i'd say it's barbaric to kill people on the grounds that someone in their neighbourhood may or may not possess rockets.

would you agree Elastoplast?
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:14 PM BST
Yes I would gus. One of the rules of being a good guy is you have to differentiate yourself from the bad guys and being immune or seeming to be immune to the suffering of innocents blurs the dividing line in my view. When I was a young slugger I used to get a warm feeling taking a bully down a peg or two. I once bullied and beat up someone without proper justification. I regret it to this day.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:15 PM BST
On the substantive issue I fear that Snow has shown himself to be too wrapped up in the issue to report.
Report ExtremeX August 1, 2014 10:17 PM BST
i think it's high time
you start blaming your mum 
for bringing home broken biscuits
instead of some decent food
causing your brain to under develop
from malnutrition

because at this point
your obsession with always
defending the indefensible
the rancid
the appalling
the criminal
the inhuman
while trivializing the death
of hundreds of innocent
children is nothing short
of madness

oh wait.....CryCryCry
Report paddletoe August 1, 2014 10:23 PM BST
I think in the present situation where Israeli soldiers are in Gazza and have shown and are killing more civilians than the enemy Hammas do have some responsibility for the deaths of their people, many of which I would consider war crimes.

Hammas should be wearing uniforms and be willing to die in those uniforms in order to try and protect innocent civilians on their side. Its one thing using certain tactics to fight a guerrilla war against a much stronger equipped enemy but Hammas should see their main role as one of defending their people. Wearing uniforms would result in more Hammas casualties but lots less of their cibilians would die and that should be a price a Hammas soldier is willing to pay.
Report unitedbiscuits August 1, 2014 10:23 PM BST
Jon Snow is one of the good guys. If the BBC want an emotional-pygmy who feels nothing when reporting on children getting their heads blown off, I'm sure some of you are suitable candidates.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:23 PM BST
I had a very happy upbringing Melly. A much loved and loving family. Home cooked meals from scratch every night. Just enough discipline not to go off the rails but enough freedom to make and learn from our mistakes. The orphanage can't have been fun for you. I'll bet you still sleep with one eye open.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:26 PM BST
united

Snow needs to report the facts and allow us to make our own minds up about a complex issue rather than waving shrouds and having hissy fits. Death in conflict is terrible but I don't want a nightly on air break down of somebody who is too unprofessional to do his job properly.
Report gus August 1, 2014 10:27 PM BST
if there's one thing i find more distasteful than your homely little parables to paddletoe Elastoplast, it's your personal anecdotes to anyone unfortunate enough to stumble upon them.

presumably that means we'll have to endure even more of them, but i thought it fair to let you know.
Report unitedbiscuits August 1, 2014 10:28 PM BST
You don't have an emotional response to these reports?
Report unitedbiscuits August 1, 2014 10:30 PM BST
You don't have an emotional response to these reports? that to EO
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:32 PM BST
Thanks for that gus. If it grieves you so may I suggest you block my comments so I dont offend you further. Or ask melly for permission.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:36 PM BST
No more of an emotional response to civilians being killed all over the world united. I'm saddened whenever civilians are used or allow themselves to be used as pawns in stupid conficts often arising out of silly notions about religion.
Report unitedbiscuits August 1, 2014 10:38 PM BST
But this is being done in your name.
Report ExtremeX August 1, 2014 10:38 PM BST
hey, what happened
to Mexico?

very rude of him leaving
announced in the
middle of this lively discussion

did he get bored suddenly?
was it something someone said?
or perhaps his mum called him
to have some broken biscuits for dinner?

aaaah, so many questions
always the same ONE answer


LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:40 PM BST
In what sense is it being done in my name united?

If it is then I demand the right to ride those suckers down like Slim Pickens in Dr Strangelove.
Report Mexico August 1, 2014 10:41 PM BST
Extreme,

You seem to be the sort of guy who may break the forum rules & get banned.


Have you ever been banned by Betfair?
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:41 PM BST
With one answer Mely:

You're still a cnunt.
Report paddletoe August 1, 2014 10:43 PM BST
Listening to the news now and the interviewer is asking a Palestinion spokesperson if he will condemn the capture of an Israeli soldier. Its a war. Soldiers die. This one has been captured. He's lucky.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:43 PM BST
His mind will be in meltdown now. Two posts at exactly the same time. I must have had two accounts ready to post a response one from mexico and one from me. Genius. LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:45 PM BST
Let's not be coy mexico. Everbody knows that the man who excoriated all and sundry with false tales of aliases is himself using aliases and according to a post I saw a few months ago from someone off one of the other forums he was well known for having form for it. The Major is barking mad.
Report unitedbiscuits August 1, 2014 10:50 PM BST
In what sense is it being done in my name united?

Israel believes itself a champion for the free world. No West, no Israel.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:53 PM BST
That's a pretty weak example of something being done in my name united. Israel is a different country, a long way away, with people who tend to share a very different religion to my own and who don't seem to share my sense of joi de vivre.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 10:55 PM BST
My country helping depose Saddam was in my name if you want to put it like that. I certainly wasn't happy about that.
Report gus August 1, 2014 11:06 PM BST
may I suggest you block my comments so I dont offend you further

you may, but tempting as the idea is, i know my  work here will not be done until i have mended your manners and made the Forum a better place for all.
Report Steamship August 1, 2014 11:11 PM BST
Two things

1 If Hamas were to hand back the soldier alive, it would show an intent for peace.

2 Someone needs to tell Israel that by killing more civilians you are making Hamas stronger and this will never go away.
Report ExtremeX August 1, 2014 11:18 PM BST
gus 01 Aug 14 23:06 
may I suggest you block my comments so I dont offend you further

you may, but tempting as the idea is, i know my  work here will not be done until i have mended your manners and made the Forum a better place for all.


i have a different take on this, gus
WHO exactly do you block?

and good luck with the mending him thing
the broken man is
FUBAR
Report masher August 1, 2014 11:33 PM BST
Hello.
Report par August 1, 2014 11:38 PM BST
Good on Jon Snow. His interviewing of The Aussie was brilliant for me.
Report Eeternaloptimist August 1, 2014 11:55 PM BST
I'll make some allowance for your antiquity but that is a whopper of a post gus. For one your arrogance in thinking you could mend anything more than trapped wind is breathtaking. More relevant is that you asked me a question, referred to me by your little insulting name and then took exception when I responded politely. I'd suggest you look closer to home regarding manners and dont be picking stones up because you can't throw the first one. You'd drop it on your foot if you tried you old duffer.
Report gus August 2, 2014 9:52 AM BST
Your first two posts on this thread were:


Eeternaloptimist   01 Aug 14 21:41:  I'm finding his little love affair with gus quite touching though. It could develpp into one of the forums crowning moments. He hasn't quite managed to reel gus in yet but so far he's done everything but dangle his own maggot in the water. Will gus bite? The forum awaits with bated breath.



Eeternaloptimist: gus What pcentage of those 1400 have stopped those who are firing rockets? Surely the good guys outweigh the bad guys heavily in Gaza If the good citizens of Gaza have a quiet word in Hamas' shell like I'm sure they wll all be sat round the pool sharing a cold one by sunset tomorrow


which I answered with restraint and civility despite the provocation of your 21:41 post.
Report ExtremeX August 2, 2014 11:53 AM BST
wrong, gus, his first posts
were under broadsword, par, and irish celtic

his first two posts aimed
squarely at you and
containing even worse provocations
that those you mentioned were:



Mexico     01 Aug 14 20:16 
Gus, would you be able to tell the difference between using concrete to build housing & using concrete to build a tunnel?

Could you tell the difference between an organisation selling drugs/ computers/books/ food & a organisation selling explosive rockets?




Mexico     01 Aug 14 20:31 
Yes you would Gus, buying rockets instead of drugs, is bad news for children.

Firing rockets at towns is not going to win an NSPCC award for caring for children.



Why don't you think you can tell the difference between buying a book and buying an explosive rocket? I would have thought an adult who does not have learning difficulties would be able to tell the difference.




gus
until you stop beating
around the bush
and start calling a spade a spade
this madness will continue
Report A.H HUNTER esq. August 2, 2014 11:59 AM BST
Is this the same gus who mocked Londoners hiding in subways to avoid Nazi bombing?

He is very well balanced, a Scottish chip on both shoulders .

  EO and gus do share a common purpose though,both are backing "yes" to Independence for Scotland.
Report ExtremeX August 2, 2014 12:01 PM BST
gus
time to run for the hills
the reinforcements that just
happened to be
walking by
will start showing up in force

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report cryoftruth August 2, 2014 4:50 PM BST

His mind will be in meltdown now. Two posts at exactly the same time. I must have had two accounts ready to post a response one from mexico and one from me. Genius.


Let's not be coy mexico. Everbody knows that the man who excoriated all and sundry with false tales of aliases is himself using aliases and according to a post I saw a few months ago from someone off one of the other forums he was well known for having form for it. The Major is barking mad.


So as well as Paddletoe the eeternalklart is also apparently Mexico. Has the imbecile nothing at all left in his life that he has to spout bilge all day with 3 different aliases on a betting forum?

What an utter plonker they all are,
Report ExtremeX August 2, 2014 5:26 PM BST
3???

hilarious Laugh
Report unbiased August 2, 2014 6:55 PM BST
All around the Middle East there are terrorist organisations,(isis,Islamic Jihad,Hesbollah,Muslim Brotherhood etc.)many of them linked for a "common cause",causing mayhem,and many deaths,yet when it involves Israel the keyboards start smoking.It appears that the handwringers think that Hamas are ok,and are a peaceful lot.Except they conveniently like to forget how long they have been accumalating their rockets,and missiles,and building tunnels,all for acts of terror,and murder.And how many rockets were fired before the cry went out that enough was enough.
Yes,the results have been devastating,but wouldn't have happened without the above.They say the truth hurts.Well it certainly appears to be the case on this forum.
During the numerous "ceasefires",rockets were still fired(and from  houses),and that is on record.
Report ExtremeX August 2, 2014 7:14 PM BST
northy

I hope you are still dropping
in to have a peek every now
and then because this is hilarious

"in a nut shell"
-as it turns out-
even those "voices" of opposition 
were never really real
just more make believe 
created in the mind of a badly broken man
riveted to a chair around the clock
defining his own disturbing reality

i shouldn't be laughing,
it's very mean,
but i am....

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report paddletoe August 2, 2014 7:33 PM BST
I think I preferred the old Menelaus better than the new one. You got the odd bit of sense out of the old one.
Report Ivor August 2, 2014 7:57 PM BST
Unbiased is another 'wise one'
Thanks heavens (its JUST an expression!) a fee can still see the truth of the reality.
Report unbiased August 2, 2014 8:26 PM BST
Ivor,you have been on here long enough to see that I have only ever posted facts,and kept away from personal views,unlike many others that are consumed by bitter hatred and resentment.If you can't see that,then that is unfortunate.
Report Ivor August 2, 2014 9:21 PM BST
WHAT! That was a SUPPORTIVE and APPRECIATIVE post - not irony!Grin
Report unbiased August 2, 2014 9:24 PM BST
Fair enough Ivor,thanks!
Report Al Dente August 4, 2014 2:53 AM BST
So Muslims are killing Jews and Jews are killing Muslims? Who really cares? The world will be a safer place without either religious persuasion.
Report call me a taxi August 4, 2014 1:52 PM BST
ExtremeX'

3???



You shouldn't laugh Billy Liar, you've had at least 4. Therefore, by your own words, you're a psychopath.

Extreme X, Menelaus, justnow and lizzybizzy - all you.

And it's no use denying it.

And now you address a post to 'northy', the only person who calls him 'northy' is Crippen.

And your only ally is gus.

Just how many identities have you got, or have yo u lost count?

And two days ago, IrishnorthernladCeltic put up a long post in the same style as ExtremeX, which is half a line down the page.

He either loves you, or you are him.

I'd opt for the former, as nobody else could love you, could they, Walter Mitty?
Report Platini August 5, 2014 10:24 PM BST
I don't think anyone with an ounce of intelligence would support Hamas or any other terrorists but lets get some perspective here. The Palestinians have a rusty penknife compared to Israel's uzi.
Report alleged22 August 5, 2014 10:42 PM BST
ExtremeX    01 Aug 14 20:55 
how about an adult
who is batshiiit crazy,
would he be able to tell
the difference?

how about some lunatic
with nothing to do all day, would he
be able to tell the difference?

how about some lowlife
that life broke in two like a dried up twig,
would he be able to tell the
difference?

how about a cripple who's
riveted to a chair all day long
throwing his voice, would he be
able to tell the difference?

aaaah, so many questions
always the same ONE answer

Get some crisps and beer in and settle down lads.

Menelaus is telling his life story.

LaughLaughLaugh
Report Eeternaloptimist August 5, 2014 10:58 PM BST
One more for the list Melly?

Must be. He thinks you're a cocck.
Report call me a taxi August 5, 2014 11:23 PM BST
alleged
you're in esteemed company now that you'v laughed at Walter Mitty. 

You are now another verison of 'Larry' - there are over 25 of us now Laugh INCLUDING, and he had NO DOUBTS,Laugh

Irish_Celtic and bbc's embarassed dad, who are both northernlad, his only friend in the whole universe, and by some 500/1 shot, the only other 2 posters not on the alias list, even though they were posting at the time, were justnow and lizzybizzy who were, of course, alaises of Menelause himself, who is also ExtremeX.

If El Saddo chooses Walter Mitty as his next username, at least it would be honest.
Report Emden August 5, 2014 11:26 PM BST
what did jon snow say at 7:00pm ?

who is melly?
Report call me a taxi August 5, 2014 11:43 PM BST
melly is Menelaus (banned)
aka justnow (banned)
aka lizzybizzy (not banned yet)
aka ExtremeX (not banned yet)
Report Emden August 5, 2014 11:52 PM BST
ok got ya!
Report Eeternaloptimist August 6, 2014 12:51 AM BST
To be fair Melly and gus are close but then Irish did stab Melly in the back when he said I'd stuck him on his ar5e that many times he had a cauliflower growing out of it.
Report call me a taxi August 6, 2014 1:41 AM BST
Laugh
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