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By:
par
When: 01 Aug 14 18:39
perhaps he will interview the Australian again
By:
Irish_Celtic
When: 01 Aug 14 19:23
All I see is Hamas killing soldiers , and Israel killing civilians .

Maybe John Snow sees the same.
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 19:49
more handwringing apologists.

How on earth do you expect a targeted operation  eliminating  terrorist tunnels to distinguish between a hole in the ground and a child in a hospital?

Collateral damage. Nothing to be seen here. Move along please ...
By:
Room 0182
When: 01 Aug 14 19:50
What are the tunnels for Gus?
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 20:04
dunno.

Look it up.

But I have to say that despite the infirmities of age, even I would be able to distinguish between a tunnel and a child.
By:
Mexico
When: 01 Aug 14 20:16
Gus, would you be able to tell the difference between using concrete to build housing & using concrete to build a tunnel?

Could you tell the difference between an organisation selling drugs/ computers/books/ food & a organisation selling explosive rockets?
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 20:20
probably not.

Would I need to be able to in order to avoid murdering children?
By:
Mexico
When: 01 Aug 14 20:31
Yes you would Gus, buying rockets instead of drugs, is bad news for children.

Firing rockets at towns is not going to win an NSPCC award for caring for children.


Why don't you think you can tell the difference between buying a book and buying an explosive rocket? I would have thought an adult who does not have learning difficulties would be able to tell the difference.
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 20:45
well, if they told me they were buying rockets, or books then of course i'd have take their word for it.

i'd have no other way of telling, just as if they told me they didn't possess any nuclear warheads i'd have to take their word for it until someone proved the contrary.

sadly, my investigative powers are somewhat limited, tho if i see the corpse of a child and a tank firing shells into the child's school or refuge, i do tend to jump to conclusions.
By:
Mexico
When: 01 Aug 14 20:53
Gus you don't seem to have been first in the queue when brains were being handed out.

Are you really saying you don't know the difference between buying books and buying rockets????

You must get some strange looks when you pop into WH Smiths for some Tomahawk cruise missiles. Are you allowed out in public on your own?
By:
ExtremeX
When: 01 Aug 14 20:55
how about an adult
who is batshiiit crazy,
would he be able to tell
the difference?

how about some lunatic
with nothing to do all day, would he
be able to tell the difference?

how about some lowlife
that life broke in two like a dried up twig,
would he be able to tell the
difference?

how about a cripple who's
riveted to a chair all day long
throwing his voice, would he be
able to tell the difference?

aaaah, so many questions
always the same ONE answer




wake up, gus
you are a clever man,
it's the same deranged man
hiding behind the curtain
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 20:58
so, the logic, as i understand it is:

somoeone may be buying rockets when we expected them to be buying books, so let's kill some children.

you're right, i can't be very bright.
By:
paddletoe
When: 01 Aug 14 21:03
Only an unrepentant bigot
would use a word
twice in as many days
after his first post
was removed
for using the same nasty word
By:
paddletoe
When: 01 Aug 14 21:05
The Palestinion people who have lost their limbs might find it offensive to be called that word.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 01 Aug 14 21:06
http://w01.freezepage.com/a/14069/09211XPDLSKVFJP/0
By:
Mexico
When: 01 Aug 14 21:07
Gus we have established that logic is not your strong point.

Are you aware that people get hurt when you start firing rockets at your neighbours & building tunnels to attack your neighbours.

Can you tell the difference between between a rocket and a book? What is wrong with you?
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 21:17
i understand the difference, it's the relevace that escapes me.
By:
moisok
When: 01 Aug 14 21:21
seems we have a problem
By:
Mexico
When: 01 Aug 14 21:24
Yep Gus I can understand how the relevance may escape you.

It is pretty much cutting edge PhD Statistics, but those OxBridge boffins have identified a correlation between firing rockets at your neighbours & getting weapons fired back.
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 21:29
so what percentage of 1400 (and counting) people killed would you say have been firing rockets?
By:
call me a taxi
When: 01 Aug 14 21:34
is there spread betting on this?
By:
call me a taxi
When: 01 Aug 14 21:35
ExtremeX    01 Aug 14 20:55 
how about an adult
who is batshiiit crazy,
would he be able to tell
the difference?

how about some lunatic
with nothing to do all day, would he
be able to tell the difference?

how about some lowlife
that life broke in two like a dried up twig,
would he be able to tell the
difference?

how about a cripple who's
riveted to a chair all day long
throwing his voice, would he be
able to tell the difference?

aaaah, so many questions
always the same ONE answer


Get some crisps and beer in and settle down lads.

Menelaus is telling his life story.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 21:38
paddletoe

It's not that big a deal or especially offensive in the grand scheme of things. I am not in the least ashamed to admit that my wife does indeed use a wheelchair and in Melly's words is a cripple and she herself describes her blue badge as her mong badge. You have to keep a sense of humour. Of course Melly doesn't have one.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 21:41
I'm finding his little love affair with gus quite touching though. It could develpp into one of the forums crowning moments. He hasn't quite managed to reel gus in yet but so far he's done everything but dangle his own maggot in the water. Will gus bite? The forum awaits with bated breath.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 21:44
gus

What pcentage of those 1400 have stopped those who are firing rockets? Surely the good guys outweigh the bad guys heavily in Gaza If the good citizens of Gaza have a quiet word in Hamas' shell like I'm sure they wll all be sat round the pool sharing a cold one by sunset tomorrow.
By:
ExtremeX
When: 01 Aug 14 21:46
there you go,gus
i smoked the broken man out for you
it was a question of how long it would take,
not if

gus, i hope you realize that
without you, me, and u/biscuits
posting here
all we'd have around the clock
is the same voice bouncing off the walls
-LITERALLY!!

but i am not telling you
anything you don't already know,
am i gus?Wink
By:
broadsword
When: 01 Aug 14 21:52
^ havent you forgot someone?
By:
Irish_Celtic
When: 01 Aug 14 21:54
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/01/who-is-behind-gaza-s-mass-execution.html
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 21:58
To answer your question I'm pretty sure you aren't gus Melly. When I was a boy we didn't have much money and a Saturday treat was when our mum brought home a bag of broken biscuits from the market. For some reason the thought of those biscuits reminds me of you. Not the warm fuzzy feeling of a loving family having a simple treat. Just the broken bit. Just thik what they could do if they put your brain back together and think of all the spare bits they'd have after they had swept up the crumbs.
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 22:00
so, the idea is that if you don't prevent other people from doing what they consider appropriate, you are guilty by association and deserve to share in collective punishment?

there are international laws against that kind of rationalisation, and for good reasons which, hopefully,  i don't need to rehearse here.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 22:04
No. I'm very much against collective punishment gus. It's a very useful recruiting tool. I'm also against hiding guns and rockets amongst civilian populations, schools and hospitals knowing full well what will happen. I'd like to see the people of Palestine saying collectively that they disagree with such action

Would you agree that is barbaric of Hamas gus?
By:
gus
When: 01 Aug 14 22:10
i'd say it's barbaric to kill people on the grounds that someone in their neighbourhood may or may not possess rockets.

would you agree Elastoplast?
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 22:14
Yes I would gus. One of the rules of being a good guy is you have to differentiate yourself from the bad guys and being immune or seeming to be immune to the suffering of innocents blurs the dividing line in my view. When I was a young slugger I used to get a warm feeling taking a bully down a peg or two. I once bullied and beat up someone without proper justification. I regret it to this day.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 22:15
On the substantive issue I fear that Snow has shown himself to be too wrapped up in the issue to report.
By:
ExtremeX
When: 01 Aug 14 22:17
i think it's high time
you start blaming your mum 
for bringing home broken biscuits
instead of some decent food
causing your brain to under develop
from malnutrition

because at this point
your obsession with always
defending the indefensible
the rancid
the appalling
the criminal
the inhuman
while trivializing the death
of hundreds of innocent
children is nothing short
of madness

oh wait.....CryCryCry
By:
paddletoe
When: 01 Aug 14 22:23
I think in the present situation where Israeli soldiers are in Gazza and have shown and are killing more civilians than the enemy Hammas do have some responsibility for the deaths of their people, many of which I would consider war crimes.

Hammas should be wearing uniforms and be willing to die in those uniforms in order to try and protect innocent civilians on their side. Its one thing using certain tactics to fight a guerrilla war against a much stronger equipped enemy but Hammas should see their main role as one of defending their people. Wearing uniforms would result in more Hammas casualties but lots less of their cibilians would die and that should be a price a Hammas soldier is willing to pay.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 01 Aug 14 22:23
Jon Snow is one of the good guys. If the BBC want an emotional-pygmy who feels nothing when reporting on children getting their heads blown off, I'm sure some of you are suitable candidates.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 22:23
I had a very happy upbringing Melly. A much loved and loving family. Home cooked meals from scratch every night. Just enough discipline not to go off the rails but enough freedom to make and learn from our mistakes. The orphanage can't have been fun for you. I'll bet you still sleep with one eye open.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 01 Aug 14 22:26
united

Snow needs to report the facts and allow us to make our own minds up about a complex issue rather than waving shrouds and having hissy fits. Death in conflict is terrible but I don't want a nightly on air break down of somebody who is too unprofessional to do his job properly.
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