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A FRENCH politician has slammed Britain’s “grotesque and hypocritical” immigration policies for leaving Calais overrun with migrants.

“The thing they want is to go to England. In their original countries those people are saying, ‘If you go to England, you will have everything. You will have a house, you will have money, you will have a job, your family will be able to join you’.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/442530/Britain-is-a-paradise-for-poor-migrants-say-angry-French

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By:
northernlad5
When: 12 Nov 13 14:56
So one French n0b shoots off his mouth

Big deal!
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 12 Nov 13 17:37
The French are moaning about the buggers racing through their country to get to us. Perhaps they should spare a thought for the poor beleaguered British who can't afford the milk and honey bestowed on these often unwanted guests.
By:
northernlad5
When: 12 Nov 13 17:43
I have already proven that Britain lies only seventh in a table of the twelve wealthiest EU countries when it comes to the percentage of foreign born nationals. Austria and Sweden have up to 15%.

Everything else is noise Wink
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 12 Nov 13 17:44
You've never proven anything other than the fact that you are a bellend Mad Lad.
By:
northernlad5
When: 12 Nov 13 17:48
Takes one to know one.......or two.......................or twelve!

LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 12 Nov 13 17:50
That rapier wit. LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
northernlad5
When: 12 Nov 13 18:04
Twelve bellends hanging from a wall.
Twelve bellends hanging from a wall.
But if one bellend should accidentally fall,
There be eleven bell ends hanging from a wall!.

...now you sing it EO's alias chorus!

Laugh
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 12 Nov 13 18:21
Marvellous. I can't believe you haven't been snapped up by one of the top greetings card manufacturers.
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 12 Nov 13 18:50

Nov 12, 2013 -- 5:44PM, Eeternaloptimist wrote:


You've never proven anything other than the fact that you are a bellend Mad Lad.


LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 12 Nov 13 18:54
Twelve bellends hanging from a wall.
Twelve bellends hanging from a wall.
But if one bellend should accidentally fall,
There be eleven bell ends hanging from a wall!.
Oh wait!! the bellend climbs back onto the wall.
Twelve bellends hanging from a wall.
Another bellend, believing everything he's told, climbs onto the wall.
Thirteen bellends hanging from a wall....
.....
......
.......
until there are millions of bellend like Nlad hanging from a wall.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 12 Nov 13 18:57
I think another spin of this might be appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0WXFzqCRXk

I like the bit at the end with Northy, Karla and friends watchng the boat sail away.

That’s Northy on the left and Karla on the right wearing the headscarf.
By:
northernlad5
When: 12 Nov 13 19:16
I never watch/read anything http:www unless there is a full explanation of what I'm about to reference. - Pure laziness.

No idea what your talking about Crippin!
By:
conspiracywackjob
When: 13 Nov 13 13:19
"The thing they want is to go to England. In their original countries those people are saying, ‘If you go to England, you will have everything. You will have a house, you will have money, you will have a job, your family will be able to join you’".



how do the benefit systems of other european countries compare to here.?

there must be a powerful incentive for them to come here, but what is it?
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 14:11
northernlad5

   13 Nov 13 14:01


Country  Total population (1000) Total Foreign-born (1000) %
EU 27    501,098                 47,348                    9.4
Germany  81,802                  9,812                    12.0
France   64,716                  7,196                    11.1
U K      62,008                  7,012                    11.3
Spain    45,989                  6,422                    14.0
Italy    60,340                  4,798                     8.0
Netherl  16,575                  1,832                    11.1
Greece   11,305                  1,256                    11.1
Sweden    9,340                  1,337                    14.3
Austria   8,367                  1,276                    15.2
Belgium  10,666                  1,380                    12.9
Portugal 10,637                    793                     7.5
Denmark   5,534                    500                     9.0

If you lot of racist/fascists want to discuss immigration try sticking to the facts.
Despite the recent so called open door policy UK ranks only 6th of 12 leading EU countries.

Conspiracy, stop peddling Daily Mail racist lies!
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 15:22
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_OFFPUB/KS-SF-11-034/EN/KS-SF-11-034-EN.PDF

Some very interesting stats here.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 15:26
There were 47.3 million foreign-born residents in the EU in 2010, corresponding to 9.4% of the total population.

The UK comes in at 11.3% but that is only part of the story because the largest part of these people are drawn to the large cities of England.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 15:31
But of course that is only part of the issue. Who is coming? Is it highly intelligent/highly skilled people who will add to our increasingly knowledge/technology based needs?

Page 5 of the above report gives us a very interesting insight into this question:

63.4% of the EU residents born abroad come from Highly Developed countries Eurostat has recently started collecting data which show the distribution of EU residents by the level of development of their country of birth. For this purpose the Human Development Index (HDI) is used. The HDI is calculated by the United Nations under the UN Development Programme as a composite index that measures progress in three basic dimensions – health, education and living standards. Countries are classified into High, Medium and Less Developed countries. The group of High HDI countries consists mainly of Europe, North America, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, large parts of South America and some countries in Western Asia. Medium and Less Developed countries are mainly situated in the rest of Asia and Africa.

At EU level, 63.4% of the foreign-born population were born in High HDI countries, 31.5% in Medium HDI countries and 5.1% in Less Developed countries. In Slovenia the percentage of people born in other Highly Developed countries was the highest (98.5%), while in France it was the lowest (40.9%). In four of the five Member States with the largest foreign-born populations - namely France, the United Kingdom, Spain and Italy - the share of those born in High HDI countries was
below the EU average. This has the effect of lowering the EU-27 average, as a result of which,the share of most Member States exceeds the
average.,In all EU-27 countries, the foreign-born population from High HDI countries was over-represented in comparison to the distribution of the total world
population, of which less than 30% live in Highly Developed countries.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 15:41
When you look at the country we most resemble out of the EU 27 and the country we aspire to match in Germany it is very noticeable that when you compare us and indeed France to Germany and some of the other high end technology and service EU countries we are drawing a massive percentage of our immigrants from poorer countries largely more poorly educated countries. Countries like Germany are drawing in a huge percentage of their immigrants from (HDI) or richer largely better educated countries.

Given the fact of our relations with most of the HDI countries like America, Australia, New Zealand etc these figures are astonishing.

That's a challenge we need to address. It isn't necessarily how many? It is how many and where? It's about existing population densities in those areas and it is also about the abilities of the people who are coming to this country.
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 15:55
Pure gobledegook rubbish.

In Britain immigrants only come to the cities - In Germany they go to the Bavarian Mountains!

LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 16:06
No northernlad. In Britain immigrants tend to go to England. In England the immigrants gravitate to the cities. England is comparatively small with a comparatively large population in the cities. But the figures quoted relate to the UK as a whole which is therefore unrepresentative. A country like Germany has a lower population density than the UK and within the UK the population density in Wales and Scotland is much lower than in England. The relative existing population densities between England and Germany and indeed most of the rest of Europe are very different. Therefore it is far more difficult for a country like England to take in more.

Which of that are you finding difficult to comprehend?

After we've done that we can go on to discuss the actual people who are settling here compared to Germany.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 16:11
The number of people living in England has overtaken the population density of Holland, which has traditionally been the most densely-populated major nation on the continent.

The count, which has been attributed to higher levels of immigration, shows England now has 395 people per square kilometre.

The figures were obtained in a parliamentary answer from the Office of National Statistics.

In 2008 the average number of people per square kilometre in Britain was 253, rising to 395 in England.

Latest figures from Holland show that its population density was 395 a square kilometre in 2002 and 393 in 2005. It is estimated that English population density will rise to 464 people for every square kilometre by 2031.

The population density in England is already almost double the level in Germany and quadruple that in France.
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 16:18
I'm not finding it difficult to comprehend at all as there is nothing to comprehend your just talking rubbish.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 16:22
Which part of England has 395 persons per kilometre and it being nearly double that of Germany is rubbish?

Which part of we are taking the worlds poor while Germany creams off the highly educated and skilled is rubbish?
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 16:22
And quadruple that of France? ShockedShockedShocked
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 16:23
The number of people living in England has overtaken the population density of Holland, which has traditionally been the most densely-populated major nation on the continent.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 16:23
Which part of let's put up the full sign don't you get?
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 17:04
EO stop telling lies-

Latest population density 2007.
       
      people per sq kilom.
Malta     1261
Holland       394
Belgium       344
UK            246
Germany       225

Just to give some perspective

Macau China 20,069
Singapore   19,863
Monaco      18,068
Hong Kong    6,516
Gibralter    4,250

Some more surprising-

Bermuda      1,321
Maldives     1.065
St Maarten   1,101
Jersey   UK    844
Guernsey UK    800

As population density's around the world go UK, is under populated, the sleepy US Island of Guam has 295 to the UK's 262.

Try basing you arguments with facts rather than your racist nationalist bias!
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 17:44
Well firstly even an idiot wouldn't describe 2007 as the "latest". Secondly you still seem to be having trouble understanding that it is England where people want to live and it is England's population density which is relevant. Finally if you want to go "around the world" then do so. Don't just cite the places where population density is off the scale because they live on nearly every square inch. Let's have the figures for Australia. Let's have them for America. Let's have them for Canada. You know places where people actually want to live. You feel free to emigrate to any of the world's shiit holes if that floats your boat. Just don't try to turn the rose of England into what causes roses to grow.

In the meantime so you can get into the feel you want to create let us have your address so we can send round the twenty people designated to live with you.
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 18:04
So Jersey, Guernsey & Bermuda are s*** holes are they?

And yes lets include AustraliaLaughwith its uninhabitable deserts. USA -  "Anyone for Death Valley?" LaughLaugh or Canada If you like tens of thousands of square miles of frozen mountainous wastes!LaughLaughLaugh

As for the Rose of England Crazybeing so fragrant, why the f*** do you choose to live in Scotland if its so aromatic down here?

As I said you just talk rubbish - stick to putting out chimney fires!
By:
Mexico
When: 13 Nov 13 18:54
Yep - including Scottish & Welsh mountain ranges will produce a meaningless low result in terms of populatiomn density.

Anybody using this stat obviously has a poor grasp of basic statistics & geography.

Old story here claims England has highest population density in Europe.
Of course if some uneducated lad was to include the British Antarctic Territory then the population density would drop.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/2967374/England-is-most-crowded-country-in-Europe.html
By:
Arleystation
When: 13 Nov 13 18:56
The population density of the UK is skewed by the relatively high numbers per sq km in England. For example in 2011 London's population was over 5,200 per sq km.

For someone who quite correctly refers to Australia's deserts and Canada's tundra regions, it's surprising that the vast, virtually uninhabited areas of the Scottish highlands and the scarcely inhabited hills and mountains of Wales are seemingly ignored.
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 19:07
Scotland highlands & Wales mountains VAST? In comparison with Canada's frozen wasteland and Australia's deserts and rainforests??? Don't talk through your friggin' dense arse!
By:
mickstick
When: 13 Nov 13 19:09
The reason for high population in Jersey, Guernsey & Bermuda is the numbers of hotel workers.
By:
Arleystation
When: 13 Nov 13 19:14
Scotland highlands & Wales mountains VAST? In comparison with Canada's frozen wasteland and Australia's deserts and rainforests??? Don't talk through your friggin' dense arse!

You really are a complete imbecile who cannot grasp a simple point! You are too stupid and rude to make it worthwhile attempting to explain.
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 19:21
There is nothing too explain.. you simply can not compare Canada & Australia's uninhabitable regions with Scotland's & Wales, there is absolutely no comparison.
Those county's population density's are always going to be among the lowest in the world despite their considerable wealth.
By:
unbiased
When: 13 Nov 13 19:29
Why do sensible,logic thinking forumites waste their time and energy arguing with somebody as ill-mannered and completely misinformed ,and lacking in loyalty for their country,as northernlad?Just ignore him,and with a bit of luck he will disappear,and take his distorted anti British views with him.
By:
northernlad5
When: 13 Nov 13 19:39
Another idiot comes out to play!

And how is providing accurate analysis of population density distorted anti-British views?
- you dumb p****!

Or maybe I should say Britain is the most densely populated country on the planet & we must get rid of blacks & Muslims. Would that suit your warped sense of neo Nazi rascist Britishness?

Jesus wept!
By:
chatlame
When: 13 Nov 13 20:20
The urbanisation is very high in most countries and in Australia for instance most people live near the coast.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 13 Nov 13 23:24
You're clearly as ill as Melly northern lad. You don't need to lie. Just accept the truth as I explained to you that England is the most densely populated major nation in Europe. That is with large areas which are virtually uninhabited.
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