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By:
boris-the-animal
When: 10 Jul 13 13:18
The lack of housing, jobs, schoolinh, healthcare etc is to do with our politicians inviting people to come in, entering the EC, encouraging EU enlargement to poorer countries and more crucially they refused to build the required infrastrucure for us to cope with the population increases they encouraged.

All of our political classes are guilty and there is no need to apportion blame.

So let the politicians build more housing, schools, roads, hospitals etc if they know something we don't know and that a higher population is needed since they keep inviting poorer nations into the EU and we are the most attractive country for expats because of our language and history.
By:
Menelaus
When: 10 Jul 13 13:34
boris, I have no idea why you are doing this !!!!

Attempting to reason with someone assumes that they are capable of........thinking.

This mug makes a sign post look intelligent.

Move on, boris, I'm sure you have better things to do with your time.
By:
boris-the-animal
When: 10 Jul 13 13:38
to be honest I am not interested.
we shouldn't be involved in foreign adventures
they are mainly diversionary arguments and excuses to deflect attention away from home matters
all you liberals do this as some part of a guilt complex


Don't you see how myopic and hypocritical you are being?

You are not interested in what we did and still do to them!!!

We placed our henchmen in those countries as leaders and they allow our companies to loot their resources and share in the spoils.

The people are not allowed any political meetings except through their religion.

We need to leave those societies alone to settle their issues with their corrupt leaders and force our multinationals to stop interfering as well.

Then the muslims in this country would start behaving like the Indians, jews or mormons and they would not feel threatened by the West or our policies in the countries of their parents with their brothers/cousins suffering because of it.

If you want to allow people to settle in another country, there is nothing you can do-they will keep most aspects of their original culture whether they are Asian, French or Chinese.
By:
Menelaus
When: 10 Jul 13 13:41
....or perhaps you don't. Laugh
By:
boris-the-animal
When: 10 Jul 13 13:45
Menelaul
LaughLaughLaugh

I enjoy debating with people i disagree with whether in real life or on the tinternet!!!
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 10 Jul 13 13:54
Boris the animal post of 13.18 is pitch perfect and one I entirely agree with.

Menelaus differing views are allowed and should be encouraged but there is a liberal tyranny about kind of epitomised by you where any view that question the huge changes taking place are instantly labelled Racist,fascist,Neanderthals in an effort to stamp out any dissent.

Most of Boris the animals views differ from mine but I think they are genuinely held and he is entitled to them.
By:
Menelaus
When: 10 Jul 13 14:07
@ wildman

No doubt differing views are allowed, just not incessant nonsense covered with racist hatred masquerading as informed opinion. I have no patience or time for that, perhaps you do. And no, that kind of stupidity should not be encouraged, it should be exposed and ridiculed.

Spare me the sermon, I've been around the block enough times to know that the racist circle-jerk on here is vastly uniformed and will never change their mind.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 10 Jul 13 14:27
The only race hatred on here is the one directed at the unfortunate British working class.
By:
moisok
When: 10 Jul 13 14:54
it is perceived wisdom or current ideology. It is the liberal open door policy of those who decry almost everything about Britain. Of course we don't even know who these people are and quite clearly have an agenda. To raise your hand and ask any question about the state of our country signals you out as a nasty human racist who should apologise for slavery and ignore the activity of groups who are alien to our own culture.  Sometimes they are very nice people who want to be friendly to others - which is excellent. Unfortunately this colours their view of everyone who are not friendly.
Try posting on the guardian site for instance - censored through and through - they don't even open up comment sections anymore on these subjects!!!

I open a news site today and see yet another foreign criminal has killed a british guy(black) and think to myself how many more of these incidents are going to happen.  Immigrants /foreign criminals far outway in numbers what would normally be expected in proportion toe their total population.
Being nice to these people is not working.  Don't get me started on the employment situation.  All thanks to the open door policy that has been operated in the last 15 years - yes boris I am certainly interested in the last 15 years of history!!!
The irony is even labour have been apologising for past historical immigration mistakes!!!
By:
moisok
When: 10 Jul 13 14:57
ah but I am interested in what we have done and are doing
but it deflects from the debate of what is happening right now in this country

I really don't think we should be involved in any of these adventures but lets concentrate on the uk and not egyptian, syrian, afghan and a myriad of other countries while they export their problems to this country.
Let's also concentrate on closing our open door policy to eu and outside also.
By:
moisok
When: 10 Jul 13 15:00
I am not aware of actions of  british hate  inspired by the bible in this country?? I am aware of hate inspired  action by muslims in this country quoting their bible though.
By:
moisok
When: 10 Jul 13 15:23
oh and yes race card played again ha ha
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