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for anyone doubting the fact that there are a number of lawsuits in the us right now questioning obama's eligibility
alan keyes' request for a writ of mandamus:
http://www.tomshakely.com/bulletin/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
several articles discussing the issue:
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20202575&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80928
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1218811/berg_v_obama_search_for_obamas_long.html?cat=17
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1160762/obama_election_creates_massive_constitutional.html?cat=75
these are just a handful, of several hundred articles on the subject. will the mainstream look at this at all?
alan keyes' request for a writ of mandamus:
http://www.tomshakely.com/bulletin/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
several articles discussing the issue:
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20202575&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80928
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1218811/berg_v_obama_search_for_obamas_long.html?cat=17
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1160762/obama_election_creates_massive_constitutional.html?cat=75
these are just a handful, of several hundred articles on the subject. will the mainstream look at this at all?
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Just on the off-chance that this were true , does anyone else think that this would be probably the biggest economic thunderbolt to hit the US ?
signed long term dollar-seller for the last 3 days ;) |
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Don
what do you think the motivation is for these lawsuits? |
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well the petitioners are saying the motivation is to ensure the constitution is honoured. if it is breached for this instance, it doesnt give them confidence that he will stick to the constitution whilst in office. sounds fair enough imo
you should no by now though that i thought "they" knew about this all along, and the scandal to come is all planned. lol |
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Nonsense legal challenge...
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate |
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thank you for providing this link for people.
the image clearly shows a certificate of live birth, and not a birth certificate - these are 2 different things. look into that, and the legislation changes surrounding the years of obama's birth, particularly in hawaii, and you will see it is possible for a citizen to apply for a cert of live birth even if they werent actually born there. several experts have also suggested the image is a forgery, hence the original long form birth certificate is being requested. if there were no prob, why would obama spend a few mill defending court cases requesting site of this doc... |
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Do you honestly think that the truth would not have come to light by now?! Here, the non-partisan group Factcheck.org debunks all the myths: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
If you still believe that he's not a US citizen then I think you're silly - but, in that case, there is no point further engaging with you. |
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obama has ties with factcheck.
so this is not sufficient evidence imo to draw a line under the issue. Mission statement from FactCheck.org.: "The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state and federal levels. The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation" Requested Annenberg Earmark from Barack Obama - Citation from Answers.BarackObama.com: [i]Obama Requested $3.5 Million For The USC Annenberg Research Network. In 2005, Obama requested $3.5 million for the USC Annenberg Research Network on International Communication, in partnership with the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, to support the deployment of pervasive broadband for education and economic development.Funding was for the construction of a large-scale broadband wireless systems in two communities |
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Straw well and truly clutched!
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well i dont think so. seeing as annenberg is why even the mainstream media make a connection between obama and ayers. obama was head of the board at one time. he himself is responsible for organising factcheck's initial funding
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...what a remarkable coincidence
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i guess the americans would be quite happy to hear that obama was spending their money on defending lawsuits when he could pay $20 or something to release his long form certificate for public inspection, as has been requested
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Let me get this straight, Mr Conspiracy Theory.
1) Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania 2) The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation. 3) Obama requested an earmark of $3.5m for the University of Southern California Annenberg Research Network on International Communication - And this is meant to prove that Obama has "funded" and has "links" with Fact Check?! Seriously, are you for real? The only link between the USC Annenberg Research Network and Fact Check is that they both received funding from one of the biggest Philanthropic funds in America (The Annenberg Foundation - a charitable family trust). You're clutching at straws, man. |
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The connection between Obama and Ayers is through
the Chicago Annenberg Challenge that received money from the Annenburg Foundation, but the Chicago Annenburg Challenge Challenge and the Annenburg Foundation are not directly connected philosophically. The earmark Senator Obama requested was for the Annenburg Foundation, which funded the Chicago Annenburg Challenge and also funds FactCheck.org. Obama is tied to both groups |
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and regardless, why does he not just settle it by showing his long form cert.... the original... to the supreme court. fair question imo.
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Queue a change to the constitution...and the Arnie for 2012 campaign.
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I shouldn't think it will take long to clear such a matter up.
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i agree eternal - shouldnt take long.
it is odd though that obama would choose to defend the initial case, first launched in october, on the basis that the petitioner doesnt have sufficient standing to question obamas eligibility. why not just show it and finish the argument. that case btw is currently going through the appeals process, based on previous supreme court cases where the court has ruled that as a voting citizen they have sufficient standing to seek definitive proof of eligibility |
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Is BF re-opening the mkt. on Mc Cain yet ?
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no - but i have submitted a claim to the independent adjudicating service to investigate the market. imo as many already know, the presidential election market should not have been settled and should still be open now. but thats a diff story and you will have to read the other threads on these forums to hear my full thoughts and intentions, some of which bf have now removed :)
i would add i did not back obama or mccain, only others at huge odds :) |
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You didn't engage with my argument so what's the point?! There is NO link between the organisation that Obama requested an earmark for (University of Southern California Annenberg Research Network on International Communication) and APPC's fact-check, other than the word 'Annenberg'.
As for Obama's motives in fighting these lawsuits - I'm sure he's doing that because they're a load of frivolous b0ll0cks. Ask yourself one question: on a balance of probabilities - do you think the huge amount of vetting the presidential candidates have gone through would NOT have uncovered this if there was anything in it? As for your nonsense argument about the presidential markets being settled - stop being so morbid. You've done your money now get over it. |
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they are not nonsense arguments.... market was settled incorrcetly as per rules imo
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looks like there was potential for a tie to me - i accept im wrong in saying there 100% is a tie, but it is a little unclear imo.
regardless of whatever ties may or may not exist, read the actual writ submitted in court. if you have read it, you'll see that the case is actually very strong - plenty of detail is provided. obama will be given no choice but to produce his original long form birth certificate, yet he keeps refusing to and fighting the request on a technicality. why is he refusing????? http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf if you dont read this, dont even bother responding again on this thread because you will have no clue what you're talking about without having read it. enjoy. |
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and if its all boll*X why is obama not sueing them for libel?
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nutter imo
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canary adding great value to the conversation as usual. t1t.
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I think he's**ers too . :D
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you are a nutter tho don
that's not said in a nasty way btw :) |
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Good to see the tin foil hat brigade hasn't disbanded after Obama won. They are always entertaining.
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http://www.f2a.org/NewsStory.cfm?Story_ID=2794
Looks like they're going to print a tin-foil-hat story in the Washington Times Weekly National addition. Can you enlighten me as to when an issue becomes legitimate and not tinfoil.... so far we half a dozen confirmed cases in the supreme court by public sector professionals and officials,10 further unconfirmed cases across a range of states, who knows how many news articles from local and alternative news outlets, and now apparently it seems now trickling into mainstream media. Whether hes eligible or not, there is 100% an issue here to at least be investigated surely. |
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Have a listen to this.
http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916 A call to the Kenyan Embassy, that reveals theys a plan to build a monument at the place of Barack Obamas birth place...... in Kenya. |
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DonWarro 22 Nov 01:25
http://www.f2a.org/NewsStory.cfm?Story_ID=2794 Looks like they're going to print a tin-foil-hat story in the Washington Times Weekly National addition. Can you enlighten me as to when an issue becomes legitimate and not tinfoil.... so far we half a dozen confirmed cases in the supreme court by public sector professionals and officials,10 further unconfirmed cases across a range of states, who knows how many news articles from local and alternative news outlets, and now apparently it seems now trickling into mainstream media. fta stands for ' faith to action ' which tell you all you need to about the wackos involved. Trickling into the mainstream media LOL. The wackos having placed an ADVERT in the Washington Times, trickling into the mainstream media indeed. The Washington Times is a right-wing newspaper founded by the Moonies ffs One bunch of loonies taking adverts from even more deranged loonies. |
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http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd415.htm
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2008/081119/FrntPgJusticeThomas.html http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81698 http://blogs.forbes.com/trailwatch/2008/11/obamas-birth--1.html http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20202575&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8 yawn. you expect me to believe there is no court case... |
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and whilst you mock faith-to-action - are you aware how many practicing christians theres are in the us, ie how many they might appeal to? figs for church attendance showed 60+ million in church every week. id guess these people might believe there is an issue.
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Queue a change to the constitution...and the Arnie for 2012 campaign.
ohh i like this one. :-) |
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I STILL don`t believe Bush won Florida in 2000.
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not all this again from Don
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Anybody who tries to imply faith-to -action represents 60 million Christians is not to be trusted.
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not implying all of them at all, just implying that many will listen to what's being said.
i better add i follow no religion |
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Not the way it reads imo.
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