Any Pair, any Ace all in prize player?

mikey222

or somthing like that

the amount of times i folded a good pair for some ape to show he went all in preflop with an ace aaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhh

Doobs NAP

the amount of times i folded a good pair for some ape to show he went all in preflop with an ace aaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhh


This is why its a good shove

keith a ---- followed by a hand of the day post

taliking of mtts, more proof that its illegal to fold 2 suited cards in cyprus :

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 648295054 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee, Level:1 Blinds(10/20-(no ante)) - Sunday, February 07, 19:04:23 GMT 2010
Hourly Turbo $500 GTD NLH #340052
Table 1 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of active players : 8
Seat 1: larrylong ( 1,480 )
Seat 2: redored ( 1,410 )
Seat 3: chipfire227 ( 1,500 )
Seat 4: jaylammy ( 1,470 )
Seat 5: mixa7373 ( 1,560 )
Seat 6: rfc1207 ( 950 )
Seat 7: SOXY55 ( 1,480 )
Seat 8: jgb42 ( 3,650 )
Seat 9: namtreaba ( 0 )
Tourney Level:1 Blinds(10/20-(no ante))
SOXY55 posts small blind [10]
jgb42 posts big blind [20]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chipfire227 [ 8h, 7c ]
larrylong folds
redored calls [20]
chipfire227 folds
jaylammy folds
mixa7373 calls [20]
rfc1207 raises to [110]
SOXY55 folds
jgb42 folds
redored calls [90]
mixa7373 calls [90]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 7d, 2c ]
redored checks
mixa7373 checks
rfc1207 bets [360]
redored calls [360]
mixa7373 goes all-in
mixa7373 raises to [1,450]
rfc1207 calls [480]
rfc1207 goes all-in
redored calls [940]
redored goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [150] to mixa7373
** Showdown **
redored shows [ As, Ah ]
mixa7373 shows [ 2d, 6d ]
rfc1207 shows [ Kh, Qh ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
** Hand Conclusion **
mixa7373 wins 920 from side pot #1 with a Flush
mixa7373 wins 2,880 from main pot with a Flush
************ Game 648295054 ends ************

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Chipfire you do realise the 62 was a fav against AA here 52.5%.

i very much doubt 6 2 was favourite vs aa pre flop. ;-)

all joking aside, the main reason i posted it was to highlight just how wide calling ranges have become in low stakes mtts.

the lad with aa hasnt really done anything wrong, indeed a few years ago you could even argue his pre flop raise is too big as it would ( and in my opinion should ) induce 2 folds.

once upon a time you would be betting about 75 pre with aa in that spot. the fact these greeks and cyps will call a bet of 110 pre flop second hand of the game with 6 2 suited is further evidence that sometimes it doesnt really matter what you bet, these guys wont fold 2 suited cards. ive seen people shoving 1500 *****into pots of 50 and getting called by suited junk.

the guy with kq suited wasnt favourite post flop either ;-)

Yea i agree but not that AA played the hand ok.The 62 doesnt really have the implied odds to see a flop and is an obv leak on his part,But the AA carved up this hand pretty bad , it was the kq that reraised pre and the AA just flatted behind,this is a huge mistake inviting in multi players.

the AA limped 1st then called the reraise and this was against a committed stack if he shoved,big oops by AA.

sorry my mistake, assumed from the betting the original raiser was the guy with aa.

the whole thing is a mess. they all played the hand shyte. :-)

this is probably a better example, approaching the bubble in mtt. really not sure how well i played this. to me ive pretty much exposed my hand pre flop. ive said to him i have such a good hand i really want you to call. the italian fella likes his q9 suited too much to consider folding.

even when he hits i have outs. which i miss obviously. does anyone fold pre in his position ?

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 648959752 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee, Level:9 Blinds(300/600-50 ante) - Monday, February 08, 21:43:27 GMT 2010
Hourly Turbo $1,000 GTD NL Hold'em #341417
Table 1 9-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 8
Seat 1: Totti10 ( 6,925.75 )
Seat 2: papiasAA ( 5,300.50 )
Seat 3: chipfire227 ( 3,949.25 )
Seat 4: chelte ( 9,913 )
Seat 5: 1duffand ( 5,569 )
Seat 6: Disco Gravy ( 6,485 )
Seat 7: scotho ( 7,551 )
Seat 8: EXTRACASH ( 4,864 )
Tourney Level:9 Blinds(300/600-50 ante)
EXTRACASH posts ante [50]
Totti10 posts ante [50]
papiasAA posts ante [50]
chipfire227 posts ante [50]
chelte posts ante [50]
1duffand posts ante [50]
Disco Gravy posts ante [50]
scotho posts ante [50]
papiasAA posts small blind [300]
chipfire227 posts big blind [600]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chipfire227 [ Kh, Kc ]
chelte folds
1duffand folds
Disco Gravy folds
scotho folds
EXTRACASH folds
Totti10 calls [600]
papiasAA calls [300]
chipfire227 raises to [1,800]
Totti10 calls [1,200]
papiasAA calls [1,200]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 3c, Tc ]
papiasAA checks
chipfire227 goes all-in
chipfire227 bets [2,099.25]
Totti10 raises to [4,198.50]
papiasAA folds
Returning uncalled bet [2,099.25] to Totti10
** Showdown **
Totti10 shows [ 9c, Qc ]
chipfire227 shows [ Kh, Kc ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
** Hand Conclusion **
Totti10 wins 9,998.50 from main pot with a Flush
************ Game 648959752 ends ************

I think pushing is better than small raising, and checking probably is too. but wtf do I know, as you obviously got them both to make a terrible call pre. After that, nothing you can do obv.

yeah i thought about shoving, but at that point im thinking this is as good a chance as im gonna get to double up, so i need to find a way to get action.

i know the italian or the cyp cant have an ace when they limp, so there are very few flops other than a paired board that are going to worry me.

essentially i was trying to bet enough to get the button to call, which if you take into account the antes he is getting a good price.

i also know that with what i have behind, when i shove the flop i probably get called by top pair.

that was the theory.

anyhow, its the suited connectors that are killing me at the moment rather than the any pair,any ace merchants.

As default i shove, but anything bar folding and flatting has to b fine