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razz
09 Aug 12 22:59
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Main Card:

For the Lightweight Championship of the World
Ben Henderson  (16-2) vs. Frankie Edgar  (14-2-1)

Donald Cerrone  (18-4, 1 NC) vs. Melvin Guillard  (30-10-2, 1 NC)
Ed Herman  (20-8) vs. Jake Shields  (27-6-1)
Yushin Okami  (26-7) vs. Buddy Roberts  (12-2)
Justin Lawrence  (4-0) vs. Max Holloway  (5-1)

Preliminary Card:
Dennis Bermudez  (8-3) vs. Tom Hayden  (8-1)
Jared Hamman  (13-4) vs. Michael Kuiper  (11-1)
Ken Stone  (11-3) vs. Erik Perez  (11-4)
Dustin Pague  (11-6) vs. Chico Camus  (11-3)

Facebook card:
Eiji Mitsuoka  (18-8-2) vs. Nik Lentz  (21-5-2, 1 NC)

The rematch no one wanted is finally here! Many people thought that the outcome of the first fight warranted an immediate rematch , myself included.
but hopefully this will go some-way to fixing the traffic jam that is the ufc Lightweight division,  barring a controversial decision in the rematch. at least it should be a great fight again.
i think bendo will utilize a lot of kicks again  and i cant see him changing his game-plan too much from the first fight. he should try and clinch with Edgar who will look to land shots on the inside, and try to use his size advantage in the clinch to ware-down edgar.
edgar i think will try to take bendo down a lot more this time, but i cant see him being be able to keep him down for long.
in his last 3 fights edgar has shown an unbelievable amount of toughness and heart but you gotta wonder how long can he keep taking shots like maynard's uppercuts and hendersons upkick.
i'll probably end up betting on benson again but im surprised he's at 1.58 thought it would be a bit higher than that.
no way i would take shields at 1.4, herman is more than capable of beating jake if he can keep it on the feet, and shields doesnt have the best takedowns.
cerrone/guillard will be interesting at least if it doesnt go to the ground. i think cerrone may have the edge standing but guillard has a lot more power and explosiveness. it all depends on what cerrones gameplan is, hopefully he mixes it up standing then goes for a takedown, he should have a huge advantage on the ground. lawrence should win too, he has a lot of potential and i think the ufc will try and build him up slowly with the fights they are giving him.

your thoughts and picks?

here's the preview video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azFJZ0qPyno&list=PL0EC0B5F6727AEABE&index=2&feature=plcp
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Report razz August 9, 2012 11:02 PM BST
meant to say "Many people thought that the outcome of the first fight DIDN'T warrant an immediate rematch , myself included."
Report sj August 10, 2012 5:27 PM BST
please razz show me these posts where i have 'abused' people on here?
Report razz August 10, 2012 6:48 PM BST
in hindsight I worded it wrong for which I apologize for. I suppose I meant that I get the feeling you ridicule people for liking certain sports like mma for no good reason(although there are others i have seen on the boxing forum which are much worse) and get very defensive when you think people are attacking boxing. i got nothing against you but you seem to have a hard time accepting that i like boxing and mma. so we cool? Happy

just because you do not agree with me that boxing aint dead dont please mate try and score cheap points.
i dont agree that it is dead, my point was merely that its declined significantly in popularity, although it's probably getting more exposure these last couple of years which is good. as it could be taking lessons from the growth of mma
Report sj August 10, 2012 6:58 PM BST
no problems mate,but just to point out i would not abuse someone on a faceless forum(or in any walk off life)am i forthwright yep i suppose i am and maybe people sometimes take me the wrong way.

Anyway,no problems,lets enjoy our sport
Report HorseRacingExpert August 10, 2012 11:03 PM BST
http://youtu.be/ccOVvAQXNeA
Report razz August 11, 2012 11:37 PM BST
wow bendo has shortened to 1.5 and is still going down!
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 1:25 AM BST
Benson will get this time. I can see him knocking him out this time.
Report MrFancyPant August 12, 2012 1:46 AM BST
evening guys
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 1:53 AM BST
Hendo is going to tare him a new ass! dominated the 1st fight and will do even more so this time around,looked as fresh in the 5th as he was in the 1st round,cant see him holding onto this title for quite some time,he is a beast,cant stand all frankies b1tching and moaning about how he won the fight and how he is still the real champMischiefMischief hope he gets knocked out!

think the favorites will all win on the main card,all look solid
Report razz August 12, 2012 2:20 AM BST
evening. guillard weighed in overweight by 2 pounds, he must of had a hard cut, could affect his stamina if it goes 3 rounds.
Report razz August 12, 2012 2:27 AM BST
ye bendo looked like he could do another 5 rounds at the end of their first fight, guy has amazing cardio i remember noticing that, but at the same time edgar's cardio is top notch too
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 3:00 AM BST
ffs,rory mcdonald injuried againCry needed 36 stiches after a cut in training and the pj penn fight is now offCry he would have been probably fighting for the title by now,but for all these injuries
Report razz August 12, 2012 3:04 AM BST
i reckon rory will struggle at the higher end of the division, especially against strikers who he cant take down, i think they are still fighting though the date has just moved i think.
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 3:04 AM BST
and this okami v roberts fight is the biggest miss match i have seen in a long time
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 3:06 AM BST
reckon he can pretty much take anyone down,look at diaz now,great striker and on a tare,but rory destroyed him
Report razz August 12, 2012 3:10 AM BST
diaz was tiny at welterweight and isn't exactly known for his takedown defence though. he looked like he didnt want to strike with che mills either.

going with lawrence here
Report razz August 12, 2012 3:11 AM BST
not that confident on lawrence though Mischief
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 3:12 AM BST
1st round ko for lawrence
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 3:29 AM BST
nice prospect,loved the 1,2 to the body
Report razz August 12, 2012 3:33 AM BST
he's only 20 as well, makes me feel old and im only 24 Cry
both are good prospects was pretty close until the end
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 3:35 AM BST
and i'm 6 years older than youCryCry and roberts is a lamb to the slaughter herePlain
Report razz August 12, 2012 3:38 AM BST
okami's gonna pick him appart
Report HorseRacingExpert August 12, 2012 3:50 AM BST
ffs,my heart was going there,took a few strikes,but once he took him down,easy
Report razz August 12, 2012 3:53 AM BST
domination the second it hit the ground, okami did look a bit shaky on the feet, not surprising after his last 2 fights though
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:00 AM BST
very small bet on herman for me, i think shields is overated
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:12 AM BST
hey up razz!!...worst ****ing ufc ever this!..what you say tough guy!
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:14 AM BST
ffs jump on him herman!
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:15 AM BST
ridiculous tactics from herman!
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:15 AM BST
missed all the preliminaries, been a bit slow so far, holloway/lawrence was good last 2 fights should be awesome though! and this is no wear near as bad as 149 Silly
herman looks too tired to capitalize then
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:16 AM BST
too pathetic razz..shouldnt be on the main card for this ****!
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:18 AM BST
back to prelims ED... ****ing knob!
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:18 AM BST
this is what shields does, he did it against kampman and akiyama
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:19 AM BST
and on bully beatdown !!!Whoops
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:20 AM BST
29-28?
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:22 AM BST
the first was close shields edged it with the takedown but judges must of given that one to herman
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:27 AM BST
i think cerrone will have the advantage wherever this goes, he's a lot more technical than guillard striking. apparently when they trained together cerrone would have the upper hand sparring
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 4:28 AM BST
Guillard wins by KO. Cerrone is chinny IMO.
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 4:29 AM BST
I hate Cerrone.
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:32 AM BST
they share a common opponent in jeremy stevens and guillard barely edged the decision and cerrone destroyed him
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:35 AM BST
****ing fix fest this tonight...whoever they fancy the ref jumps in to stop
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:35 AM BST
BOOM!! Cowboy is a tough mother**** thats for sure!!!
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:35 AM BST
should have stopped it a minute earlier but no..
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:36 AM BST
he was beat if guillard had his ref
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 4:37 AM BST
Melvin stopped attcking coz he didnt want to gas trying to finish it. I backed Melv but I dont think he had Cerrone in enough trouble for the ref to stop it
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:37 AM BST
that wasnt the first time rosenthal jumped in to suite the market tonight
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:39 AM BST
yeah cerrone wasnt as badly hurt as guillard, no way that should of been stopped when cerrone was hurt
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 4:41 AM BST
and if he was it wouldnt have been stopped until he was foaming
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:46 AM BST
im not liking these odds at all for henderson, i backed edgar a while ago at 2.66 thinking the price would shorten so i could lay it off but it went the wrong way, gonna leave it on edgar for a while then try and switch to benson.
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 4:51 AM BST
Edgar looks beefed up this time.
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 4:52 AM BST
...While Bendo looks like he's slimmed down
Report razz August 12, 2012 4:57 AM BST
round 1 to henderson, those leg kicks were effective
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:04 AM BST
rnd 2 to Edgar! Bendo still very sharp.
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:10 AM BST
2-1 Edgar?
Report razz August 12, 2012 5:13 AM BST
tough 3rd round to score, gave the edge to benson, but who knows
Report razz August 12, 2012 5:17 AM BST
i think edgar's edging this
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:19 AM BST
Bendo has let this get away from him. Edgar out-working him.
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:21 AM BST
1.6 available for Edgar still
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:21 AM BST
buying money
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:22 AM BST
Edgar wins.
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:23 AM BST
1.8 Edgar now!
Report razz August 12, 2012 5:23 AM BST
such a close fight, i cant make up my mind, i'd think the judges may favour edgar tho
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:23 AM BST
1.61
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:23 AM BST
depends on the judges..if its the same as tito v forest then clean puches that equal knock down = minuses i think
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:24 AM BST
flip flop!
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:24 AM BST
evens now...snipers in the crowd
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:24 AM BST
HUGE swing now
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:25 AM BST
WTF ? Down to 1.2 before the decision?
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:25 AM BST
disgrace
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:26 AM BST
hey amazing how that drifted wasnt it..and this is banned over there
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:26 AM BST
Edgar slightly more than edged it for me
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:26 AM BST
forget this ****..scripted and bent
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:26 AM BST
How did the drift happen?
Report MrFancyPant August 12, 2012 5:27 AM BST
Had a massive bet on hendo and jeez I feel I have been let off the hook big time!
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:27 AM BST
because theres people ringside seeing the scores
Report razz August 12, 2012 5:27 AM BST
What drift lol there was bugger all liquidity in the market after the fight ended
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:27 AM BST
amazing how from 1.5 it went 2s out of nowwhere
Report MrFancyPant August 12, 2012 5:27 AM BST
My heart is pounding
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:28 AM BST
what drift..quit wan king an watch the market then razz
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:28 AM BST
i posted when it happened
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:28 AM BST
2.02 down to 1.2 in 20 seconds?
Report razz August 12, 2012 5:28 AM BST
oh you mean the drift from 8 quid available at 1.5 to the 16 at evens? Crazy the actual money took a while to get put down at the end
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:29 AM BST
Dr.Cypionate • August 12, 2012 5:24 AM BST
evens now...snipers in the crowd
Report• Quote • Block User ArmchairIdiot • August 12, 2012 5:24 AM BST
flip flop!
Report• Quote • Block User Dr.Cypionate • August 12, 2012 5:24 AM BST
evens now...snipers in the crowd
Report• Quote • Block User ArmchairIdiot • August 12, 2012 5:24 AM BST
HUGE swing now
Report• Quote • Block User ArmchairIdiot • August 12, 2012 5:25 AM BST
WTF ? Down to 1.2 before the decision?
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:29 AM BST

Aug 12, 2012 -- 5:28AM, razz wrote:


oh you mean the drift from 8 quid available at 1.5 to the 16 at evens?  the actual money took a while to get put down at the end


postyed ya di ck

Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:29 AM BST
smart mouthed prick
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:30 AM BST
1.2 was  razz?
Report ArmchairIdiot August 12, 2012 5:31 AM BST
Aaaaf! started well but ended up with balls in a sling. Night lads.
Report razz August 12, 2012 5:33 AM BST
nah i was trying to lay edgar at 1.6-1.8 for most of it
Report razz August 12, 2012 5:33 AM BST
did 1.2 get matched on edgar???
Report Dr.Cypionate August 12, 2012 5:34 AM BST

Aug 12, 2012 -- 5:33AM, razz wrote:


nah i was trying to lay edgar at 1.6-1.8 for most of it


not according to you no...need to watch the market and stop calling people liars that do

Report razz August 12, 2012 5:37 AM BST
when did i call anyone a liar lol, at that time i saw the market there was nothing on it so i probably missed it but ofc theres gonna be swings with this low liquidity
Report razz August 12, 2012 6:16 AM BST
in hindsight i think id give it to edgar, but benson won the 1st fight by a bigger margin, decent fight overall lost 30 wuid on the main fight but im up from the other fights so im happy, hope the decision didn't screw you guys over
Report Kingmambo August 12, 2012 5:41 PM BST
Just watched on Sky+.  What can I say, staggered by the decision.  Thought Edgar won 4 rounds, 3 of them clearly.
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