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If the gaps were 2 mins, Wiggo would have Evans in sight. Unreal.
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What were the gaps in the start times? Will Wiggins catch Evans on the road?
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If it had been the normal 2-min gaps between riders, Wiggins would have Evans in his sights now!
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Stop the fight
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3-min gaps
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3 mins. He won't catch him but 2 minutes here is way beyond nearly everyone's expectations.
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Wiggo is almost exactly 1km behind Evans with 2km to go.
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Evans holds onto 2nd
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Now onto the Alps
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Yes!!!
Bradley get in there!!!! ![]() |
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Wow!
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Game over!!!
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103 seconds over Evans!!!!
And you lot laughed at me and said it was ridiculous when I said at least 80 seconds! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!! |
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My 25-1, 20-1 and 16-1 from Wiggo GC is looking okayish!
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Wiggins using the Indurain blueprint
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Pleased for Wiggo that's he's won a stage! 1'43'' over Evans. That's massive. Pro Evans were predicting 30s, Pro-Wiggins a minute. Incredible stuff.
I'm not sure there is anywhere on the course for Evans to get two minutes. Nibali maybe. |
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Wiggins 1 min ahead of Spartacus? cmon now...
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What price for olympics?!
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marychain1 - take your boom! crap to the cricket and football forum!
SP. |
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Where is yer man Froome from lads?
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Sorry Swinging Pick, didnt realise that getting excitable about British stage wins and yellow jerseys wasnt allowed on here, obviously didnt read the forum rules.
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What a great ride from Wiggins & Froome, fair play marychain.
2'16 to Tony Martin, didn't think it was ever a good idea betting on someone with a broken hand! |
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On form Spartacus and Martin would still have won today. Fabian's time particularly was closer to other riders than it might have been. Martin is banged up with his wrist. Wiggo and Froome's entire year has been geared to this three weeks and they are peaking now quite visibly.
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marychain1 - and here I thought you were getting excited about proving the doubters wrong:! And you lot laughed at me and said it was ridiculous when I said at least 80 seconds! How innovative of you that you were just getting excited about GB stage win.
Cheers, SP |
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BB - I would suggest the puncture today was more of an issue than the broken bone in Martin's wrist. Valid point on him targeting the Tour's ITT, and the Tour generally.
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esy win for wiggo as i expected. should really be 1.1 for the GC now. absolute formality bar an act of god
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The use of the word formality, even for a rider nearly 2mins clear from the closest challenger, over some of the toughest stages in professional cycling over 10 days of competitive riding, and suffering, suggests an ill-advised use of language. Having said that, Wiggins looks far stronger than I would have ever expected at this stage of the Tour.
Cheers, SP |
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It's not just Martin's wrist, he's been unlucky all year and didn't win the Dauphine ITT either for which he wasn't far off coming back from injury again. Fit and in form he's immense but it's asking a lot of him to attain that level with all of these problems, especially up against a very very motivated Wiggins wearing a yellow jersey who has put in months of training just for today, no slouch in a TT in of himself.
If Martin's a silly price for the Olympics I will lay him again. It's sad but it's just get the feeling it's not his year. |
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"41.5 kms is about 6/7ths longer than the prologue and should Martin again catch a flat, I think he'll have the opportunity to get back into it, and still go close."
"I would suggest the puncture today was more of an issue than the broken bone in Martin's wrist." I'd suggest otherwise. The puncture is unfortunate but he lost only 23 seconds in the prologue with a puncture. He lost 2'16 today... |
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I accept what you're saying, it looks like he is terribly unlucky with breaking a bone in his wrist splitting two punctures in the prologue and ITT here at the Tour, but his failure does go back to losing the ITT in the Dauphine as you say. And, professional athletes start to begin to think that things are against them, and they're actually fighting a mental battle before even getting on the course for the Olympics, in this cenario, finding faults and problems where there may be none, but simply because they've gotten into this negative frame of mind. So, I'm sure it's not just your feeling, but it may be that he is feeling it too, or building on such thoughts which will cause him to fail.
I'm now thinking that it might go all the way back to earlier in the season when his team were winning everything, and Martin was hit by a car in a training ride. Cheers, SP |
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As much as i want Wiggo to win overall 1.4 is an hell of a lay price with what lies ahead.The 3rd week mountains are the killers doesn`t matter how well you have gone till then tiredness steps in.Evans has been here many times before and is more dangerous as the race progresses.I know he has the final time trial but could be out of it by then.Hope i am wrong but feel at least he will hit much higher than 1.4 at some point
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Swinging Pick, you dont mind a Boom if its excitement because of a British win, but if it contains any element of what you call "proving the doubters wrong" then it can be taken to the cricket or football forum?
Well, it actually was a bit of both, that is to say, excitement at an astonishing British performance that proved the doubters, including those on here, wrong. As it is, I think your mardy post came from your own anger at being one of the doubters who had been proven wrong rather than anything I did. Good luck for the rest of the tour anyway dude! |
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I'm going to lay a bit at 1.4 now. Winning a four figure sum either way! (£10.82?!?)
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Should Evans (at 5.7) be so much shorter than Froome (15)?
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no. froome is the value in the market now.
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well interesting everyone thinking wiggo is an absolute shoe in...
he has been broken many times in the mountains and it will be how much damage is done...personally think he is in a good position, its a desperate shame froomey lost 1 and half minutes on a flat stage with a puncture else i would be taking wiggo on strongly with him, a very strong climber, he is a tour winner in the making...will he be allowed the chance? the tour is now dependant on evans and nibali in regards froomes chances of winning as cadel will have to break wiggo and then froome will be given the opportunity to chase him down, sky might have no option but to allow froome his chance...but if this doesn't happen there is no way froome will be allowed, to not give wiggo his wheel...and thus compromise his own chances... big stages still to come and the tour hasn't even started but the problem for cadel and others is there is no strength in depth to there teams which leaves them limited in regards challenging sky and the potential of breaking wiggo... the case continues but wiggo maybe protected enough to get him to the time trial...froome will win more stages but will the lad be given the chance to show his true colours...for me he is the only rider that can win the tour in the mountains this year but will he be allowed...it is the tour de france (the greatest race on earth) and he maybe injured in a years time, will he let the opportunity slide or will he not be allowed to take his opportunity?? intriguing - 1.4 on wiggo is about right not for me however with the mountains to come but not easy to be confident about others with the teams that surround them... |
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Assume Wiggo's price of 1.43 reflects his prospects fairly. That would make Froome (at his current price of 15) a 4.5 shot and Evans (current price 5.7) favourite at 1.67 - if Wiggins does not win, for whatever reason.
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If you take Wiggins out I would make Froome favorite. It is only the fact he is riding for Brad that he is currently priced (correctly IMO) at 15. I have been on Wiggins from the start and have Froome as a very cheap cover bet should anything untoward happen.
If Froome were riding for another team other than Sky he would be 2nd fav and Wiggins would not be long odds on. |
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froome evens wit pp wo evans and wiggo
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seriously lads, save yr breath. this tour is OVER. Wiggo will cruise in from here, and any thoughts about Froome being a threat to Wiggo are ridiculous. They are team-mates and wiggo is the no.1 GC man as shown by his TT win. Froome's job is to support Wiggo - end of. And the idea that Evans will put Wiggo under pressure in the mountains is laughable - there's no way he can hope to do this, it will be the other way round. At some stage I expect Wiggo and Froome to drop Evans.
I seriously dont know what race u have been watching if u think anyone can put Wiggo under big pressure. They'd need a motorbike. Forget it. |