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By:
ArmchairIdiot
When: 11 Dec 11 03:09
I panicked. It all started to make sense. I was going to get shafted, but I just swallowed it
By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 03:10
i cant believe i did that it was only 1 round and machida only landed a few punches, disgusted with myself wiped out all my winnings from the mir fight and then some..
By:
boycie1
When: 11 Dec 11 03:10
haha always let it ride..every time i lay a bet my bet touches anyway...or so it seems
By:
ArmchairIdiot
When: 11 Dec 11 03:13
To be honest, I thought Jones would panick and get caught again, coz he's never been in a fight yet. In a way, I still think he did a little, coz he immediately went for a Takerdown
By:
ArmchairIdiot
When: 11 Dec 11 03:13
But it came off. To cause that sort of damage in a clich is insane.
By:
ArmchairIdiot
When: 11 Dec 11 03:14
off to the boxing!
By:
boycie1
When: 11 Dec 11 03:15
exactly, good luck lads
By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 03:15
oh god i should probably call it quits for the night, is khan worth a lay i wonder?
By:
OHnewknees
When: 11 Dec 11 03:16

Dec 10, 2011 -- 10:15PM, razz wrote:


oh god i should probably call it quits for the night, is khan worth a lay i wonder?


Nope, no chance.

By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 03:19
i feel bad about chasing losses by betting on a 1.17 shot though Cry
By:
OHnewknees
When: 11 Dec 11 03:30
then again Laugh
By:
OHnewknees
When: 11 Dec 11 03:31
No bet for me but I want Khan to win for the only reason to see him smashed by Mayweather! thats free money Laugh
By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 03:32
Plain shoulda called it a night lol
By:
Sabu
When: 11 Dec 11 03:58
why has jones tko/ko been settled as a loser? machida didn't tap. John waved it off
By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 04:04
because it was a submission
By:
OHnewknees
When: 11 Dec 11 04:14

Dec 10, 2011 -- 10:16PM, OHnewknees wrote:


Dec 11, 2011 --  4:15AM, razz wrote:oh god i should probably call it quits for the night, is khan worth a lay i wonder?Nope, no chance.


Laugh

By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 04:19
what a s hit night haha i could of layed khan at 1.07....
By:
therhino
When: 11 Dec 11 04:36
Mir's move was unbelievable, as good as it gets. nog was a few punches away from a ref stoppage, why he didn't keep hitting him I'll never know. Jones, what can you say? But there was a definete **** in the armour today, maybe Rashad has a chance... probably not.
By:
Sabu
When: 11 Dec 11 09:24
Jones didn't win by submission, he got a tko with a submission when the ref waves it off and one party is unconnscious it's a ko/tko. A tapout is the only submission
By:
therhino
When: 11 Dec 11 10:15
Don't think so sabu, pretty sure a KO/TKO requires striking by definition. Could be wrong but fairly sure it counts as a submission.
By:
harryvardon
When: 11 Dec 11 11:25
why has my bet on ortiz vs little nog been voided

bet against nog winning by decision and bet was void

did people get their bets on the win market void as well?????
By:
r2r
When: 11 Dec 11 11:53
Did anybody get an email from betfair about the tito ortiz fight? I got one saying that the result has been voided, and I was just wondering why?
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 11 Dec 11 12:14
Yep got mine this morning....bet on Tito refunded :o

ole

shame it didnt happen sooner for the Jones lump on train.
By:
Igorus
When: 11 Dec 11 12:26
same here? I was on Minotauro ffs why was it voided?
By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 13:34
Sabu • December 11, 2011 10:24 AM GMT
Jones didn't win by submission, he got a tko with a submission when the ref waves it off and one party is unconnscious it's a ko/tko. A tapout is the only submission

jones won by a modified guillotine it doesnt matter if machida tapped or not he won the fight with a submission
By:
razz
When: 11 Dec 11 13:39
yeah i got an email too, i cant remember if it was that fight or not but one of them had the market up way too long, like after the fight had ended, or maybe the event didnt get suspended before the start of the fight so bets that werent in play didnt get cancelled .
By:
Biscar Two from a mile back
When: 11 Dec 11 14:08
Betfair do not have any rules relating to mma in the rules section which is a bit alarming.This should be sorted before the next event.
In last night events Machida and Big Nog both refused to submit so strictly speaking how could this be regarded as a submission.
Machida's loss by submission though  is less arguable than Big Nog's.In mma referee's intervene in certain situations when a hold looks likely to cause major damage(if an arm is bent in an awkward position is the most likely scenario).Should this still be a submission victory?.You could certainly argue both sides of the arguement.
Betfair needs to have a set of rules that punters can refer to in the rules and regulations section.
By:
Reezy
When: 11 Dec 11 16:10
My bet on little nog was placed at 11pm last night and still got voided, thats bs.
By:
Reezy
When: 11 Dec 11 16:11
Like they do with KO/TKO, they can just called it submission/T-submission
By:
r2r
When: 11 Dec 11 17:26
I emailed betfair about the ortiz fight being voided and this is the response I got

"I have had a look at the bet in question and the reason the bet was void. Is because the market was loaded as Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira when actually it was his twin brother fighting. So we had to void all bets and your money was never taking from your account. We only take the stake from the account once the bet has settled."
By:
Igorus
When: 11 Dec 11 18:37
Lol so they got confused by the Minotauro brothers? That's a joke. Thank you Betfair pff...
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 11 Dec 11 19:50
Oh my god LOOOOOOOL

HOPELESS Betfair HOPELESS!!
By:
wherethemoneyat
When: 11 Dec 11 23:40
same thing with my bet on little nog...but the funny things is that the market was loaded as A R Nogiero..so it was obvious to anyone that they were placing their bet on him and not the other brother!!!
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 12 Dec 11 11:02
I had a feeling they might have got the names wrong as I saw nothing wrong with markets being suspended too early/late as has happens in the past.  I didn't think they'd be so stupid though...

Thankfully I didn't have much on that fight but surely they should have used common sense?  I guarantee not a single person in the whole world bet on that fight thinking it was Big Nog v Ortiz.
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 12 Dec 11 11:03
I also think it's time they added some extra markets.  Go the Distance and Round Betting like they do in boxing would be nice.

I'll email them today.  The more of us that do so, the better.

As for Betfair not having any MMA rules, that's just scary...
By:
mehmet j mook
When: 13 Dec 11 15:37
i didnt have a single bet on it,didnt really have time to evaluate it,id have done hominick and jones in a double i think so glad i didnt.

Whoever said rashad has a chance against JBJ is completley wrong,machida is an elite striker who would cause anyone problems but at some point JBJ is going to get hold of you and when that happens the end is nigh,machida is better than rashad too by the way.

I still have a sore throat from shouting so much when Mir snapped nogs arm,i F in love Frank,so talented and methodical,Mir gets your arm you should tap or he is taking it home!! To come back like that while he was soooo close to being out is one of the best things ive ever seen in mma!
By:
Templeton Peck
When: 31 Dec 11 01:34
As promised in two messages above, I emailed them about adding rounds betting and this was their response:

Dear Templeton

Thank you for your e-mail.

Our Market Operations team have no plans to offer any additional markets to our MMA product as we are happy with what we offer.


We offer round betting and go the distance markets for boxing as there are 10-12 rounds in a fight compared to 3 rounds in an MMA contest or 5 rounds for a title fight (which is rare) and the volume on boxing bouts is far greater than that of the MMA markets we offer so things such as round betting and go the distance get priced up fairly well where as we do not believe this would be the case for MMA bouts.


I've just seen they've added round betting for Lesnar v Overeem! SurprisedCrazyLaugh
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