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17 Nov 11 16:22
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Main card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Stephan Bonnar vs.  Kyle Kingsbury
Welterweight bout:  Martin Kampmann vs.  Rick Story
Bantamweight bout:  Urijah Faber vs.  Brian Bowles
Middleweight bout:  Wanderlei Silva vs.  Cung Le
Light Heavyweight bout:  Maurício Rua vs.  Dan Henderson

Preliminary card (Facebook)
Lightweight bout:  Shamar Bailey vs.  Danny Castillo
Welterweight bout:  Matt Brown vs.  Seth Baczynski
Bantamweight bout:  Miguel Torres vs.  Nick Pace
Lightweight bout:  Gleison Tibau vs.  Rafael dos Anjos
Middleweight bout:  Tom Lawlor vs.  Chris Weidman
Preliminary card (televised)
Bantamweight bout:  Michael McDonald vs.  Alex Soto
Light Heavyweight bout:  Ryan Bader vs.  Jason Brilz

some awesome fights for this one, could be the strongest card this year on paper. who's everyone betting on and why?

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By:
mehmet j mook
When: 17 Nov 11 17:27
tough card to bet on! Alot of close fights or no value! Think Brilz is a decent price at 3s,think its a bit closer than the odds suggest there.

Bonnar and kingsbu is close too,kingsbury's cardio looked a bit dodgy last time out and we all know bonnar has outstanding cardio so ill edge towards bonnar to win a 3 round fight of the night war.

Id also make Kampmann fave against Story,not a massive fan of story but saying that he could lay and pray for 3 rounds against kampmann or wall and stall like he did to alves. Think Kampmann has more guts and heart than Alves and will try to KO him,his boxing is very technical and i think he will connect a few times when story tries to shoot but dont think ill be backing anything here,Kampmann is the better fighter,has better submissions and better stand up but im afraid of Story humping him for 3 rounds.

Rua vs Hendo.....WOW 2 legends! If i knew Rua would turn up in top shape with no lingering injuries id back him but im never sure nowadays if he is fully fit and Dan Henderson is so dangerous in the first round. I dont think ill be backing much on this card as i wont be able to watch it live. If i had to give a prediction id go Rua by UD or TKO in the third
By:
lincthesinc
When: 17 Nov 11 17:51
cung le bet of the night
By:
bigjenkos
When: 17 Nov 11 20:37
This has the makings of a brilliant card but I won't know where to begin with regards to betting. Lots of coin toss fights and I could make a case for evveryone on the main card.

I don't see Bonnar as an elite level fighter. He lost to an over-the-hill Mark Coleman but I wouldn't bet on Kingsbury with any confidence either.

I originally fancied Kampmann as he's talented but I don't think Story is a great match stylistically for him.

Faber/Bowles odds seem about right to me although there is always a question mark over Faber v top notch opponents, which Bowles certainly is. A fantastic match up for 3rd on the bill though.

I find it hard to back Wanderlai after his recent results. Cung Le hasn't really beaten anyone of note and it's hard to judge how good he really is from 8 fights in 6 years. Obviously his kicks are great to watch but I can't see Silva giving him much distance. I'm not sure that he has the knockout punch that Leben found either. Also Wanderlai beat (just about) Bisping in the fight before which is a solid win.

As much as I love Shogun, he's a nightmare to tip as you never know who will turn up nowadays. Hendo is difficult to predict as his recent opponents have been all over the place (heavyweight/welterweight/past-prime Babalu).

I'm going for a small super-yankee of Kingsbury/Kampmann/Faber/Silva/Rua just to have a bit of interest but I'm more than happy to sit back and enjoy the event.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 19 Nov 11 12:02
Love Uriah but Bowles is top class....He seriously is. Bowles win for me. but if Uriah won then you'd have to give him another title shot vs Dom.

Wanderlei is quite lucky to be honest. Vitor was originally pencilled in for this fight :o Still Cung Li is a worthy replacement. His accuracy with his striking is his biggest strength and with Wand's chin gone it has to be a major worry for him.

If Shogun is fit then he'll run through Hendo imo.
By:
razz
When: 19 Nov 11 17:00
I got Kampmann to win but it's going to be close, so im not putting much on him, he has some of the best striking in the division and is extremely accurate, obviously the big worry will be story's takedown's, but Kampmann showed good Takedown defence against shields. I'm a bit dubious about story since he lost to Brennermen also.
I'm going for shogun to beat Henderson, if shogun is healthy i think he will out-strike Hendo who will be looking to land his ridiculously powerful h-bomb, Dan's stamina could be an issue here to, especially if he tries to grapple, his chin looked vulnerable against fedor and feijiao imo. i also like dos anjos and bader to win, but wont be backing them heavily
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razz
When: 19 Nov 11 21:25
anyone know when the prelims start on facebook?
By:
Paulonator
When: 19 Nov 11 22:05
9.50 i beleive razzz
By:
Paulonator
When: 19 Nov 11 22:05
9.50 i beleive razzz
By:
razz
When: 19 Nov 11 22:55
hmm they still haven't started
By:
razz
When: 19 Nov 11 23:27
i wish they'd show these fights on tv its pretty hard to stream it with 0.15 mbps download speed
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 20 Nov 11 00:21
Just got espn espically in for tonight.  Just dont know who to back!!??
By:
Paulonator
When: 20 Nov 11 00:43
im strugglin to pick winners too pal
By:
boycie1
When: 20 Nov 11 01:10
i agree with you boys pickin Kampmann, think Story is good but slightly limited, always back Faber even tho he keeps letting me down! but cant desert the Cally Kid now when he should be at his most desperate.

Think Hendo is a great bet to beat Shogun, Rua always knocks his opponents out and that could be worth a few quid but Henderson has NEVER been knocked out and will break Ruas heart after he hits him with his best and Henderson still doesnt fall! Cant wait, some crackin fights on the way.
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 20 Nov 11 01:31
It sure is a toughy.  I like Bowles attitude but think hes up against it.  Would like to see Bowles win though.  Always liked Henderson but everytime i back him he losses.  Decisions desicions aghhhhh!
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 01:46
i'd go for shogun mfp, main card about to start now
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 20 Nov 11 02:09
taken your suggestions guys, lets get it on!
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:10
got to go with bonnar for the 1st main fight, kingsbury's not the smartest fighter gameplan wise
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:10
scratch that im thinking of someone else >
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:11
still going with bonnar though, he should have a size advantage and a lot more experience
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:22
dominant end to round 1 from bonnar
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:28
that could of been a 10-8 round in some people's eyes, kingsbury offered nothing at all in that round
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:37
30-25 from one judge Grin im glad 1 judge scored it that way
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:41
going for kampmann to win this, so long as he avoids the takedown's
By:
boycie1
When: 20 Nov 11 02:44
good call with Bonnar mate, i had kingsberry ko ffs Sad .. only 4 buttons tho
By:
amijinxed
When: 20 Nov 11 02:49
im no ufc expert but wanted to ask how would your average thailand kickboxer fare in ufc ??
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:51
depends who he's put up against amijinxed, if it was a wrestler, then not very good
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 02:52
close 1st round could of gone either way on the judges card
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 03:02
kampmann running away with it now
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 20 Nov 11 03:04
sweeeeeeeeeet
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 03:07
there's always ` judge who tries to scare the crap outta me with a stupid score
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 20 Nov 11 03:11
lol
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 03:13
gonna leave this one, haven't seen bowles fight enough
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 03:23
wow faber looked awesome
By:
MrFancyPant
When: 20 Nov 11 03:26
he did unfortunately :-(
By:
boycie1
When: 20 Nov 11 03:27
BBBBOOOOOMMMMMM,, what an uppercut, great performance by Faber there
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 03:30
got silva here but wouldn't be surprised to see it go the other way
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 03:33
what the **** happened to the odds??!!!!!
By:
razz
When: 20 Nov 11 03:34
they were both close to even money earlier Shocked
By:
THE-FOX
When: 20 Nov 11 03:40
anyone got a stream thats good thanks in advance
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