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razz
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Main card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Stephan Bonnar vs.  Kyle Kingsbury
Welterweight bout:  Martin Kampmann vs.  Rick Story
Bantamweight bout:  Urijah Faber vs.  Brian Bowles
Middleweight bout:  Wanderlei Silva vs.  Cung Le
Light Heavyweight bout:  Maurício Rua vs.  Dan Henderson

Preliminary card (Facebook)
Lightweight bout:  Shamar Bailey vs.  Danny Castillo
Welterweight bout:  Matt Brown vs.  Seth Baczynski
Bantamweight bout:  Miguel Torres vs.  Nick Pace
Lightweight bout:  Gleison Tibau vs.  Rafael dos Anjos
Middleweight bout:  Tom Lawlor vs.  Chris Weidman
Preliminary card (televised)
Bantamweight bout:  Michael McDonald vs.  Alex Soto
Light Heavyweight bout:  Ryan Bader vs.  Jason Brilz

some awesome fights for this one, could be the strongest card this year on paper. who's everyone betting on and why?
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Report razz November 19, 2011 11:27 PM GMT
i wish they'd show these fights on tv its pretty hard to stream it with 0.15 mbps download speed
Report MrFancyPant November 20, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
Just got espn espically in for tonight.  Just dont know who to back!!??
Report Paulonator November 20, 2011 12:43 AM GMT
im strugglin to pick winners too pal
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 1:10 AM GMT
i agree with you boys pickin Kampmann, think Story is good but slightly limited, always back Faber even tho he keeps letting me down! but cant desert the Cally Kid now when he should be at his most desperate.

Think Hendo is a great bet to beat Shogun, Rua always knocks his opponents out and that could be worth a few quid but Henderson has NEVER been knocked out and will break Ruas heart after he hits him with his best and Henderson still doesnt fall! Cant wait, some crackin fights on the way.
Report MrFancyPant November 20, 2011 1:31 AM GMT
It sure is a toughy.  I like Bowles attitude but think hes up against it.  Would like to see Bowles win though.  Always liked Henderson but everytime i back him he losses.  Decisions desicions aghhhhh!
Report razz November 20, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
i'd go for shogun mfp, main card about to start now
Report MrFancyPant November 20, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
taken your suggestions guys, lets get it on!
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:10 AM GMT
got to go with bonnar for the 1st main fight, kingsbury's not the smartest fighter gameplan wise
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:10 AM GMT
scratch that im thinking of someone else >
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
still going with bonnar though, he should have a size advantage and a lot more experience
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
dominant end to round 1 from bonnar
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:28 AM GMT
that could of been a 10-8 round in some people's eyes, kingsbury offered nothing at all in that round
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:37 AM GMT
30-25 from one judge Grin im glad 1 judge scored it that way
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:41 AM GMT
going for kampmann to win this, so long as he avoids the takedown's
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
good call with Bonnar mate, i had kingsberry ko ffs Sad .. only 4 buttons tho
Report amijinxed November 20, 2011 2:49 AM GMT
im no ufc expert but wanted to ask how would your average thailand kickboxer fare in ufc ??
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:51 AM GMT
depends who he's put up against amijinxed, if it was a wrestler, then not very good
Report razz November 20, 2011 2:52 AM GMT
close 1st round could of gone either way on the judges card
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:02 AM GMT
kampmann running away with it now
Report MrFancyPant November 20, 2011 3:04 AM GMT
sweeeeeeeeeet
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:07 AM GMT
there's always ` judge who tries to scare the crap outta me with a stupid score
Report MrFancyPant November 20, 2011 3:11 AM GMT
lol
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:13 AM GMT
gonna leave this one, haven't seen bowles fight enough
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:23 AM GMT
wow faber looked awesome
Report MrFancyPant November 20, 2011 3:26 AM GMT
he did unfortunately :-(
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
BBBBOOOOOMMMMMM,, what an uppercut, great performance by Faber there
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:30 AM GMT
got silva here but wouldn't be surprised to see it go the other way
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:33 AM GMT
what the **** happened to the odds??!!!!!
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:34 AM GMT
they were both close to even money earlier Shocked
Report THE-FOX November 20, 2011 3:40 AM GMT
anyone got a stream thats good thanks in advance
Report THE-FOX November 20, 2011 3:42 AM GMT
got one
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:43 AM GMT
great first round, the longer it goes the more it favours silva
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
cung le's kicks use an enormous amount of energy to use
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:51 AM GMT
flashes of the old wanderlei there, great flurry at the end he's so violent when he gets you hurt, my biggest mma win this year Grin
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
Could still lay Le at 2.0 latew in the 2nd when it was obvious Silva was takin over, broken nose 4 Lee i reckon, some sickenin shots
Report razz November 20, 2011 3:54 AM GMT
that nose got destroyed, amazing cung was still conscious after those knees
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 3:57 AM GMT
haha yeah mate brutal,well done on yer win, hopefully Hendo can finish Rua now...but im startin to doubt it, he has the same explosive power as Silva
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:01 AM GMT
cheers, im on shogun now, it'll be interesting to see if hendo tries to wrestle because that will take  a lot of gas out of him at his age
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:02 AM GMT
shogun's got a size advantage too
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:05 AM GMT
then again hederson's ****ing awesome Wink
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:13 AM GMT
shoguns def got size advantage..looks fat as fook Laugh
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:14 AM GMT
yeah lol, he always looks like that though, gives hima cardio advantage with less muscle though
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:17 AM GMT
oh!! shogun's taken like 3 h-bomb's already!! more amazingly shoguns still standing after them
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:20 AM GMT
hendo's getting tired
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:24 AM GMT
shogun cant possibly take any more shots
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:25 AM GMT
that has to be a 10-8 round for hendo
Report Dan Chipowski November 20, 2011 4:30 AM GMT
How the fk is Shogun still breathing. Shocked
Report Dan Chipowski November 20, 2011 4:31 AM GMT
Now Hendo is all over the shop.

Great fight. Grin
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:33 AM GMT
insane fight!!!
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
2 feckin warriors, fight of the year no matter what happens
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
this could be a draw if hendo survives
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
2 feckin warriors, fight of the year no matter what happens
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
2 feckin warriors, fight of the year no matter what happens
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:36 AM GMT
2 feckin warriors, fight of the year no matter what happens
Report Dan Chipowski November 20, 2011 4:38 AM GMT
Laugh What a fking fight.
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:38 AM GMT
amazing fight easilly fight of the year!!
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:40 AM GMT
well worth stayin up for, 25 minutes of complete action, that cardio is crazy Crazy
Report Dan Chipowski November 20, 2011 4:41 AM GMT
Dan Henderson!!!!!!!!

What a warrior. Silly
Report Dr.Cypionate November 20, 2011 4:42 AM GMT
THATS HOW BENT THE UFC IS.."ALL 3 JUDGE HAD IT 28-27!"

IT WAS A 5 ROUND FIGHT FFS!
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
it was 48-47
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
i had him to win by ko ffs but hats off to both of them, thats whar MMA is all about.
Report Dan Chipowski November 20, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
48-47
Plain
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:44 AM GMT
also the UFC have no control over who the judges are, it's all down to the state athletic commision's
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
how naive
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
im going to watch that again Excited
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 4:47 AM GMT
maybe the judges should too...
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 4:47 AM GMT
amazin fite, razz great thread as always, roll on 140, good night lads
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:49 AM GMT
thanks :) fight of the year and card of the year!! i had hendo winning rounds 1,2,3 and shogun round 4,5 both had a 10-8 round think it was a fair decision
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 4:51 AM GMT
You should get points deducted for doing absolutely nothing for the last 12 minutes of a fight.
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
he did
Report ArmchairIdiot November 20, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
I needed Shogun to win for a five fold, but I have to admit I knew he lost and it was the correct decision. Hendo done more clean work in rounds 1,2 & 3. Shogun won his rounds well, but I knew he needed a KO to win. Gutted.
Report EastLower Gooner November 20, 2011 4:54 AM GMT
Had it a draw...47-47

R1 10-9 Hendo
R2 10-9 Hendo
R3 10-9 Hendo
R4 10-9 Shogun
R5 10-8 Shogun

But it would appear all 3 judges scored the last only a 10-9 to Shogun. Wow. if ever there was a 10-8 round that was it. brutal. he took him down and got full mount 6 times, reigned down punches, elbows, hammerfists and tried to work two submissions. awesome from both fighters.

Calling it...best fight of all time. heart, committment, abilty too recover, top class brutal striking, wrestling and some nifty bjj thrown in.
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 4:54 AM GMT
clearly not enough

12 minutes of a 25 minute fight spent on his back covering up to avoid getting his face pummelled, yet he still wins. He's just fortunate enough that hamburger boy was knackered by that point.
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:54 AM GMT
hendo landed some brutal shots over and over in the 1st half of the fight, shogun didn't inflict as much damage
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
but hendo was smashing shogun's face for the first 13 minutes of the fight Laugh
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 4:55 AM GMT
he more than made up for it at the end of R3 and for the entirety of R4 and R5

hometown decision
Report ArmchairIdiot November 20, 2011 4:56 AM GMT
How on earth can you not have Hendo winning one of his three rnds by 10-8, East Lower?
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:56 AM GMT
he wasn't lucky the pace of the fight and the damage taken by both fighters would of tired anyone out shogun won round 3 clearly
Report razz November 20, 2011 4:58 AM GMT
*hendo won round 3 clearly*
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 4:58 AM GMT
Shogun won R3? My argument is Hendo was completely ****ed, he wasn't fighting for 12 minutes of a 25 minute FIGHT and he still won...
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 5:00 AM GMT
Cech u aint got a clue son, 5 round fight, Rua was lucky to survive early rounds, it makes no difference Hendo covered up late on because he had the fight won
Report EastLower Gooner November 20, 2011 5:00 AM GMT
if you give hendo a 10-8 round then what do you give Shogun for the last??? a 10-7? you'd have too surely.

Shogun actually fought back in those rounds...hendo did nothing in the final round.

10-9s are fair unless you get a totally overwhelming round like the 5th.
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
btw unlucky with your bet Armchair but at least u have the sense to know your bet was beat fair and square...tho the last round mustve been some sweat for ye!
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
Exactly - Hendo did more damage in the first 2/3 rounds but Shogun was FIGHTING back in a FIGHT.  LAst 2 rounds Hendo did absolutely nothing.  Deserves no points.
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:02 AM GMT
10-7 is ridiculous shogun didn't do near enough effective damage for that hendo won the first 3 1 or 2 of them could be a 10-8
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 5:07 AM GMT
"hendo did absolutly nothin-deserves no points" Laugh Laugh

Crazy Crazy Cry Cry

Cech he did alrite, won the 1st 3 rounds piss easy..fought like a lion for 25 minutes and didnt tapout and never really looked like it was gonna happen
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 5:09 AM GMT
End of the 4th he was wobbling after Shogun tagged him a few times (uppercut I believe). A fitter man that Shogun would have finished him.
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:10 AM GMT
henderson came the closest to ending the fight , he deserved at least 1 10-8 round
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 5:11 AM GMT
old Pride rules = Shogun wins

hometown decision Wink
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:11 AM GMT
A fitter man that Shogun would have finished him.
henderson has never been ko'd, and if it was pride rules it would of been 3 rounds........
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 5:12 AM GMT
Who cares if he has never been KO'd? He was wobbling like a drunk Laugh I thought you were watching the fight again?  Looked how ****ed he was at the end of the 4th.
Report petr cech November 20, 2011 5:14 AM GMT
bed time for me. night x
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:15 AM GMT
well you just said a fitter man would of finished a guy who's never been stopped before , ye he looked exhausted at end of round 4 , not quite as bad as shogun looked when he got dropped though,
looking ****ed from punches > looking ****ed from tiredness
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:15 AM GMT
night Happy
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 5:16 AM GMT
Razz as the great Jay-Z once said.."a wise man told me never to argue with fools, cause people from a distance cant tell who is who!"Laugh
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:20 AM GMT
good quote ^.^
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
i bet dana white wishes he put that fight on the fox card instead of jds/cain
Report boycie1 November 20, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
They still got great viewin on fox that night but i know what u mean, my beer is done, im away to bed, good luck mate
Report razz November 20, 2011 5:27 AM GMT
laters
Report mehmet j mook November 21, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
for once i agree with ELG,i had it 10-9,10-9,10-9,9-10,8-10.

I didnt bet on it so its not my wallet speaking,didnt think hendo deserved a 10-8 really but the 5th round was 100% a 10-8 round too shogun for me.
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