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razz
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UFC fight night 25 this weekend-

Jake Shields vs. Jake Ellenberger
Alan Belcher vs. Jason MacDonald
Erik Koch vs. Jonathan Brookins
Dongi Yang vs. Court McGee
Evan Dunham vs. Shamar Bailey
TJ Waldburger vs. Mike Stumpf
Ken Stone vs. Donny Walker
Cody McKenzie vs. Vagner Rocha
Matt Riddle vs. Lance Benoist
Jorge Lopez vs. Justin Edwards
Seth Baczynski vs. Clay Harvison
Robert Peralta vs. Mike Lullo

Any bets?

i like Rocha, mainly because McKenzie isnt UFC quality and will surely get destroyed?

Dunham vs Bailey is a total mismatch but 1/4 isnt too exciting.

Good to see Belcher back, always good to watch.

Not too sure for the main event, Shields should scrape it though.

may as well make a new thread for it. im only gonna have a couple bets for this, going for evan dunham and maybe rocha, brookings with his wrestling might be good value, but i dont know to much about koch. not gonna bet on belcher because of his long layoff and jason mcdonnald has one of the best ground game's in the division. shields ellenberger i think will be to close to pick so im leaving that too.

who's everyone else going for?
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Report victor meldrew doesnt believe September 17, 2011 6:22 PM BST
Hi Razz, where you getting Dunham at 1/4?  I can only find him at 2/9.  I will post my picks later.  Want to have a final think through.
Report $wordfish September 17, 2011 7:38 PM BST
where you getting Dunham at 1/4?

Bluesq, ****, Ladbroke$, 888sport, WBX.
Report razz September 17, 2011 8:10 PM BST
yeah a few places have him at that price, anyone have any idea when the prelims start on facebook?
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe September 17, 2011 8:21 PM BST
10:30 i think
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe September 17, 2011 8:59 PM BST
One of my mates knows too much about UFC... here's his report...

Shields v Ellenberger (pick = Ellenberger but too close)

Shield's a one trick pony albeit an immense one, if he gets the fight to the floor and on top of Ellenberger it could be a quick nights work... However Ellenberger is a much superior wrestler and getting him on his back is no mean feat for a good wrestler let alone Shields. His only loss in the UFC is a split decision to Carlos Condit in a fight many thought he won. He's on a tear at the minute winning 4 straight and arguably has the heaviest hands in the division... I think Ellenberger has the superior wrestling, stand up, power/strength and cardio. Many have this as a Shields victory and with the recent passing of his father he could turn up and fight like a man possessed. I however feel this will be a KO win for Ellenberger, i think his wrestling will keep the fight on its feet long enough for him to land something nasty.

McGee v Yang (pick = McGee)

Simple in my eyes. Yang has a punchers chance - i think these two are a class apart. McGee is a real prospect and has a well rounded game. Yang, despite holding an impressive record hasn't really fought anyone of note and is 1-1 in UFC, both fights against guys i don't expect to be on the roster too
long. McGee to overwhelm before submitting Yang.

Belcher v MacDonald (pick = Belcher but I rate MacDonald so avoid)

Belcher's first fight back after his career threatening eye injury - Ring rust could be a factor in this one... and i feel a lot of people are overlooking MacDonald, i rate the guy. I do however believe Belcher has more talent (no pun intended - Alan 'The Talent' Belcher) and on his game would have enough on the feet to take MacDonald out or decision him. I think Jason is slightly better on the ground but could have a job getting Belcher to the mat. All in all this could go either way but i give the edge to Belcher.

Brookins v Koch (pick = Koch)

Brookins first fight since winning TUF, injuries have kept him from competing and he gets a tough match up against up and comer Koch. Both are well rounded fighters but i feel Koch has more on the feet, his only loss came to Chad Mendes by decision who is an absolute Juggernaut in the 145 division. I would bet on a late KO for Koch after wearing Brookins down in the 1st half of the fight.

Dunham v Bailey (pick = Dunham)

Complete mismatch in my eyes... Bailey may... may have the better wrestling but Dunham is on another level altogether. He may be on a 2 fight losing streak (another razor thin split decision to Sean Sherk a former champ and a TKO to Melvin Guillard - who is the most athletic, explosive fighter in the 155lb weight class and KOing everyone in his path since moving to train with Greg Jackson) but it has come to the elite at 155. Bailey has never fought at this level - I'm just wondering if he did something to pi$$ Dana off!? I see Dunham ending this early, could clean KO Bailey or rock him and finish via sub either way i don't expect this to go the distance.
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe September 17, 2011 9:51 PM BST
I've gone for a McGee / Dunham double at evens... what's your picks?
Report victor meldrew doesnt believe September 18, 2011 1:23 AM BST
First part of the double in... just need McGee now... hopefully he'll pull it off !
Report razz September 18, 2011 2:21 AM BST
belcher looked  amazing, was worried his long layoff might affect him but apparently not.
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:14 AM BST
McGee fight coming on now...
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:19 AM BST
yang looks huge
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:22 AM BST
yang seems to be doing more damage with them kicks
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:23 AM BST
10-9 mc gee

what you think?
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:23 AM BST
nice round by both, mcgee landed heavier shots.
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:25 AM BST
court was the agressor, and landed the better punches, but yang is landing some nice kicks
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:26 AM BST
agreed
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:27 AM BST
yang is breathing with his mouth open i think, could be dangerous if court lands some punches
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:28 AM BST
yang is hardly attacking, very slow fight
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:30 AM BST
another 10-9 mcgee i think
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:30 AM BST
2 rounds for mcgee on my scorecard, look for dongi to come out swinging
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:33 AM BST
oohhh!!!
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:33 AM BST
wow its all kicking off, either way this round...or even a ko?
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:34 AM BST
yang's done now! outta gas
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:34 AM BST
yangs done
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:36 AM BST
unanimous to mcgee i think
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:36 AM BST
mcgee has a good chin yang wouldnt of finished him anyway i dont think, i'll be pissed if the judges dont give court the win i didnt green out on him Mischief
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:38 AM BST
i greened out, backed yang just before he did a flying knee when the odds went, not up much but green better than nothing.

thoughts on next match?
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:39 AM BST
nice, got back my loss on the brookings fight and a small green too Happy
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:41 AM BST
ha i followed the tip with brookings too lol

going for ellenberger in this one, they seem about evens as fighters so his higher odds leads me to him
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:43 AM BST
ellenberger odds dropped bout .2
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:46 AM BST
gonna put a bit on ellenberger, shields losing his father could hurt him or give him that extra will to win, i dont think shields can take ellenberger down, and will have to stand up for most of the fight. ellenberger has possibly the most powerfull hands in the ww division atm, and he likes to counter. i think shields will look to use the jab.
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:49 AM BST
can tell im tired when i just realised i backed shields by accident lol
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:50 AM BST
right back on ellenberger at 2.42
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:51 AM BST
haha boxing on soon too!
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:51 AM BST
i got  2.62 on him
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:52 AM BST
thank you very much! easy money
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:53 AM BST
wow!!! what a knee, feel bad for shields though
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:54 AM BST
shouldnt be fighting so soon tbh
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:57 AM BST
i thought i had a little fight left but the ref decided to stop it




erm you was out, then tryed to fight the ref mate!
Report razz September 18, 2011 3:57 AM BST
jakes on the fast track to a title shot, he did in 1 minute what GSP couldnt do in 25 .
i think mayweather starts at 4? got some money on floyd, and the rugby is on in a bit to, to many things on at once !
Report Tempa_T September 18, 2011 3:58 AM BST
sleep time, peace
Report razz September 18, 2011 4:09 AM BST
ciao, 1 week till jones vs rampage now. looking to make some big money on that card
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