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By:
themightymac
When: 16 Dec 13 04:45
Nothing wrong with trading out and taking a nice profit from a strong position, but to say "betting to lay" is not gambling is rubbish. One is initially taking a gamble that the price will go shorter at some time during the game and there is no guarantee that it will, just like Bungals fans found out tonight. I bet the 49ers @ 120/1 to win the SB in season 2011 with the pre set plan to lay them back at a shorter price for a profit, which I did for a "BIG" money at 7/1, but there was no guarantee that they would make the play offs and allow me to do. It was a gamble to begin with, pure and simple, like all "bet to lay" trades initially are.
By:
Si-K
When: 16 Dec 13 18:02
LOOL YOU ABSOLOUTE MUG OP . DONT GIVE UP THE DAY JOB YOU FISH
By:
HARRY22
When: 16 Dec 13 19:50
Blimey....not missed much on this forum over the last few weeks.

You place money in a betting exchange with no idea which way the market is going to go and it isn't gambling LaughCrazyCrazy
By:
themightymac
When: 16 Dec 13 20:43
No mate, it`s investing Laugh
By:
themightymac
When: 16 Dec 13 20:43
Where you been Harry? Good to see you back Crazy
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HARRY22
When: 16 Dec 13 21:17
Like buying a car,as soon as you drive away you will lose money on it, you back at 2.0 and  the selection is then 2.2 is that investing??, you will win some and you will lose some so good luck breaking 50% in guessing which is what it is.

I have been having a break and enjoying the end of the regular season, not may teams playing that well right now, unless you are an nfc west team which is by far the strongest division.
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DirkDiggler
When: 16 Dec 13 21:44
I like cincy on the ML, but because  I figured out a long time ago that because this is a trading site,  it's best, for me anyway, to try and be neutral and bet in play.  Get in, get your profit, get out. Playing the point spread is a mugs game.  The fact I like Cincy doesn't mean I'm betting them.  That would be gambling.


....It IS gambling, you're a fool to think otherwise. Trading, whether it's stocks and shares or commodities as part of an institution or as an individual, or trading sports on an exchange, is all GAMBLING, all of it.

People call it 'trading' to aid an air of sophistication to what they do, to add a veneer of respectability, but it is BS, everything that happened in 2008 was the result of gambling, what we all did last night, was gambling.

Don't kid yourself - You're a gambler. No more than that.

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By:
themightymac
When: 16 Dec 13 21:48
Seahawks look hard to beat, especially as they don`t get beat at home. 49ers their main danger in NFC. AFC looks between Broncos and Pats. Anything can happen in play-offs though - Any Given Sunday and all that.
By:
HARRY22
When: 16 Dec 13 22:48
True dirk, trading/gambling exactly the same but trading makes a punter feel special Grin

Seahawks looked very average a month ago but as good teams do they still win games they shouldn't have won, some team will have to go through seattle to make the superbowl,what I like about seattle and 49ers is they could probably both go on the road and still make it,not sure the saints can,they needed home field and now in danger of finishing 2nd in the south.  Still think these two teams are the best in the NFL.  Kansas look good again and they could turn over denver if that defence keeps putting up pts for them, bengals look rubbish, patriots need to play at home imo but with gronk done that probably ended their hopes.
By:
themightymac
When: 17 Dec 13 00:00
People call it 'trading' to aid an air of sophistication to what they do, to add a veneer of respectability, but it is BS, everything that happened in 2008 was the result of gambling, what we all did last night, was gambling.

Never a truer word spoken. A bit like "Wine Connoisseurs" - they like to think they are superior to us but at the end of the day they are "alkies" just like the rest of us. CrazyCrazyLaughLaugh
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 17 Dec 13 00:17
Yeah mac, I take your point. But with wine, lagers, real ales etc i think it's fair to say when people get to my vintage, they'd rather have 4 nice beers than 8 cans of Carling! Laugh
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 17 Dec 13 00:24
Harry - Yeah, there is a subtle difference nice between trading and standing shouting at the monitor in Laddies with your slip in your hand powerless!


But yeah, it's all gambling, and you can't tart it up. Really.

Two most complete teams are SF and Seattle, no doubt. Denver's defense isn't good, NO's defense isn't either and they're poor out the dome. NE just aren't all that. Bengals??? look at that egg they laid last night. Steelers who were 5-8 blew them away (Dallas, that's how you defend a big lead, were you watching?) - Bell was averaging about 3 yards a pop, probably less, but Steelers stuck with the run game, and mixed in Dwyer and Jones. Dallas RB was averaging about 10 yards a carry and abandoned the run. Insane.

Wasn't convinced about KC @ 8-0 and i'm still not, they had Denver dead and buried and blew it.
By:
HARRY22
When: 17 Dec 13 00:43
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By:
HARRY22
When: 17 Dec 13 00:43
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By:
HARRY22
When: 17 Dec 13 00:45
can't argue with any of that dirk...Same opinion with Kansas as I didn't think they could score the pts but they have charles who looks unstoppable.

The steelers result didn't surprise me at all, just a terrible start to the season for them,the bengals heading in the wrong direction just like the colts who beat all the top teams in the first few months
By:
themightymac
When: 17 Dec 13 00:53
I`ll stick to my 25 year old Malt. Now where did I put that straw? CrazyCrazy
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 17 Dec 13 00:54
Yes, two teams going the wrong way. Indy wouldn't go into SF and win now.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 17 Dec 13 00:55
I`ll stick to my 25 year old Malt. Now where did I put that straw? CrazyCrazy



It's Buckfast and a mouldy sausage roll and you know it!
By:
themightymac
When: 17 Dec 13 16:43
Whoops Don`t tell everybody, I`m trying to sound sophisticated CrazyWink
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 17 Dec 13 17:06
Grin
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