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db1974
19 Nov 12 14:35
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Alex Smith is OUT of tonight's match (Cutler was already ruled out) so its Colin Kaepernick leading the 49ers vs Jason Campbell leading the Bears

The 49ers have actually drifted in that hour or so but I would rate Kaepernick easily as good as Smith (he can throw and run and will eventually be better IMO) so I don't understand that drift at all
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Report MissSunacellli November 19, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
under under under
Report db1974 November 19, 2012 3:40 PM GMT
I like Alex Smith < 209.5 passing yards with the BlSq

Laugh
Report d13phe November 19, 2012 3:42 PM GMT
Actually think Bears are better with Jason Campbell.

this is a tough game to call but should be a great game to watch

I also Kapaernick but this Bears D is mean
Report ClayDavis November 19, 2012 3:42 PM GMT
Campbell is no mug
Report Swagger November 19, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
-3.0 points the 49ers on the spread for me. It seems the quarterback situation is a 50/50 for both teams, SF were poor last week and will want to put on a show. Others on here commented that they were the best side during the first two weeks of the season - they will want to prove the early season form hasn't washed away since.
Report Valueee Seeeker November 19, 2012 8:48 PM GMT
Anyone know how you can watch this? Not on sky or channel 4, must be somewhere?
Report LucasLevia November 19, 2012 8:52 PM GMT
bbc red button
Report horse9 November 19, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
10 days ago this looked like being the game of the year, back up QBs for both tempers enthusiasm a little so I can't approach this game with any sort of punting head.
Points have bombed to a level where over might be the smart call.
Gun to my head I'd be with Bears +3.5 but I can't get excited about this one now...
Report ClayDavis November 19, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
Haven't got the results to hand but haven't the Bears been better away from Soldier Field?
But also don't the Bears struggle against sides with winning records?
Report DirkDiggler November 19, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
I don't like the Bears in big spots, they're kind of a SD-lite. SD choke every big game they ever play. But, Campbell is a proven NFL QB, what has Kapernick done?

That's the problem here.

34.5 is a real low number, and the Bears D has been scoring for fun.

Smith or no Smith, I think the 49ers were better last season than this. I just don't like trusting the Bears though.
Report HARRY22 November 19, 2012 9:52 PM GMT
marshall without cutler is bad news for the bears...special teams contest tonight..still should be a decent game
Report d13phe November 19, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
this is basically Gore vs Bears D and forte vs the 49ers D

if i am being honest the form points towards the Bears D and Forte but wouldnt be surprised to see the 49ers step up tonight

really tough game to call.

Special teams will be key as well
Report Sudoku_Junior November 19, 2012 10:33 PM GMT
Unders/Overs is a shade too low for me but i'm not confident to back overs, so thats a no play.

Like the bears s/u and with the points in this one, campbell could be starting qb in the nfl and will have took practice reps all week.

Tebow mark 2 kaepernick still has it all to prove with the weight on his shoulders.
Report sideshowbob November 19, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
a defensive touchdown would be worth a go. if betfair ever had betting for that.
Report CakeOrDeath November 19, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
For some interest, I've put a small bet on +5.5 sacks (@2.01), and on a defensive or special teams TD (@2.73) at Pinnacle.  With the injuries, no idea who'll come out on top, so ignoring those markets and planning to enjoy the game :)
Report punkha1 November 19, 2012 11:30 PM GMT
Would like to stay up for this but 1.40ko is late for a monday may struggle to stay awake.
Didnt find it so hard earlier in the season but as the winter draws in its tough.
Can you sky plus behind the red button?
Report HARRY22 November 19, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
No otherwise I would probably be one of many recording this garbage coverage....it is hard staying awake when the league standings are being shown over and over
Report Love the green November 19, 2012 11:37 PM GMT
bbc red button has a 10 second delay so beware!
Report CakeOrDeath November 19, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
Is it really only 10 seconds?  I thought it was closer to a minute or two when I last watched on it.  Or maybe that was Channel 4.  I'm old, I forget.

No plans to do anything in play, so no matter for me.  Did well on Ravens-Steelers game yesterday, so not pushing it tonight.  Better be a good game, though.
Report punkha1 November 19, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
Was different last week harry they had a "studio" set up with some dude and Rocky Boiman.Was a big improvement on previous weeks anyway.
Report HARRY22 November 19, 2012 11:55 PM GMT
the packers seattle game on the monday was a lot longer than 10 seconds
Report Banquo1 November 19, 2012 11:57 PM GMT
It was Darren Fletcher who does BBC 5Live and the Inside The Huddle podcast with Neil Reynolds who was presenting last week. It's supposed to be him and Neil for the duration but Reynolds couldn't make it last week so they got Boiman to stand in.

It actually worked quite well, and it was arguably better than Channel 4's coverage where Carlson thinks he's a flucking comedian and never seems to give a straight answer to any question without first making some kind of shiite joke. He's such a good pundit too that it's a shame he has to resort to that.

Fletcher and Boiman stuck to the game, discussed the results from the Sunday, showed some highlights and took some Tweets from viewers about NFL matters. It was so much of an improvement on the scrolling results and outdated player profiles, and that's even taking into account it was the Steelers and the Chiefs last week.
Report Beaniash November 20, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
CALL ME CRAZY HERE BUT I'M ON THE BEARS TONIGHT BIG TIME ... THEIR QB JASON CAMPBELL WAS ACTUALLY A STARTER TO ME THE BEST BACKUP IN THE NFL (SORTA LIKE TAKIN OFF AGUERO BRINGIN ON DZEKO) SO THIS ISN'T ANYTHING NEW TO HIM, THE OTHER THING IS BEARS WILL SACK THE SHJIT OUT OF HIM FROM THE JUMP AND THAT WILL JUST DEMORALIZE HIM AND CONFIDENCE WILL GO.

49ERS SECONDARY HAS BEEN WOEFUL PAST FEW GAMES SO WHO KNOWS IF THIS IS FIXABLE THIS SEASON ... I JUST HAVE THE FEELING BEARS WILL IF ANYTHING COVER THE SPREAD BUT SOMETHING TELLS ME THEY'LL WIN TONIGHT
Report sideshowbob November 20, 2012 1:18 AM GMT
i havent watched the bbc since about week 2. the music did my head in. didnt know they had a studio now, i think i'll record it then.
Report Love the green November 20, 2012 1:27 AM GMT
probably more than 10secs it was last week just a warning to those that thought it was live :) bears too big at 3's imo gl all
Report milla445 November 20, 2012 1:34 AM GMT
Well done BBC for FINALLY getting a studio - missed last week so no idea if these guys are any good, but not having to sit through the endless musical interludes is going to be wonderful.

Can't call this one, will see how it develops.
Report Rainier Wolfcastle November 20, 2012 1:36 AM GMT
Delay on BBC is definitely more than 10 seconds. More like a full minute.
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
So vernon davis is still alive
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 1:46 AM GMT
Tillman can strip the ball bit forget pulling it from davis..the guy is a beast
Report CAPS LOCK November 20, 2012 1:56 AM GMT
No liquidity
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 2:01 AM GMT
Correct, no liquidity - big deal - full two plays thereCryCry

Hope the BBC p1ss off next year.
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:02 AM GMT
alex smith get yer p45 sir  vernon davis is back in the building
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 2:02 AM GMT
*big delay*Happy
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:14 AM GMT
my word if the bears can win from here I would be impressed.10-0 against the niners.bears not potent enough
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
Whoever rated Kaepernick highly, kudos.  You wouldn't think we was a backup; probably wouldn't be in a lot of other teams.
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
best balanced team in the nfc making a mockery of the bears
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:23 AM GMT
cake or death Grin how did you come up with that name Grin

bears 0 niners 17, bears have zero chance in this game unless they force 8 turnovers at least
Report DonNo1 November 20, 2012 2:28 AM GMT
Massacre
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:29 AM GMT
They normally do force a lot of turnovers, Harry - lead the NFL in interceptions, and a fair few forced fumbles, too.  (nfl.com stats suck).

Being made to look very ordinary tonight.
Report CAPS LOCK November 20, 2012 2:29 AM GMT
Sweet :)
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:29 AM GMT
massacre is an understatement..this is superb stuff...bears hype fianlly going to be put to rest
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
we had a discussion the other day...think it was the niners who were ticked off as one of few teams who could cope with losing a QB...cutler loss huge...with him I couldnt see them winning or getting close to the superbowl
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
forte was superb last season..one of the best backs in the league and this is another game where he just doesnt feature..strange
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:36 AM GMT
Forte's getting some carries .. but 49ers have a great run D, and if Chicago aren't passing much, they'll be keying on the run.

It's odd the Bears elected to run far more in the opening drives with an experienced QB than the 49ers.  Obviously they don't rate Campbell too highly.
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:37 AM GMT
last season forte was key in receiving...not being used as well
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
that was a nice play by the bears
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
Ah, ok .. see what you mean.  He's getting the hand-offs, but he's arguably more useful when he can receive it in space.

I'm liking all these sacks :)  Only need 2 more for +5.5.
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
he was doing both very well last season...this niners D is excellent but the bears I have seen this season have looked rubbish so hard to say how good the niners are tonight. not difficult to say how good they are on offence tonight..very efficient
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
bet safe CAKE..plenty more to come
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
another sack....another 8 sacks at least tonight
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
More for the 49ers, perhaps ;)  I'm just hanging in for sacks and hoping (optimistically!) for a D/ST TD.  Nowt on Betfair tonight.

I can't believe the Bears are so poor tonight .. both offensively and defensively.
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:51 AM GMT
Haha, yeah .. I thought the sacks would be going the other way.  Kaepernick sacked 5 times doing the bit of the game he played last week.
Report caramba November 20, 2012 2:52 AM GMT
defence getting no rest doesn't help either.
Report caramba November 20, 2012 2:53 AM GMT
so I can go to bed now or is there any risk of a charges/broncos repeat?
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
no chance caramba...broncos had an offence the bears dont
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
Chicago haven't shown enough to score once, let alone 3 times.
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 2:56 AM GMT
Never go to bed with red in the NFL.....ever. Going to bed as well but looking to zero on Bears with a half-decent green on 49ers, pretty poor at momentSad
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 2:57 AM GMT
^^^
But if your job involves operating heavy machinery or performing surgery, please, just take a red ;)
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 2:58 AM GMT
GrinGrin
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:00 AM GMT
:D

Hope things turn round for you, Wallflower.  Watching a car crash is always worthwhile, but close games are always more entertaining.  Bears get the kickoff, hopefully they can get things moving after some HT hairdryer treatment.
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
Don't really blame Campbell that much - he's not great admittedly - but would be pretty hard to shine with completely smashed-up offensive line.

(Same applies to Vick - he could be quicker with his release, but a lot of the time the OL has disintegrated straight away)
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 3:04 AM GMT
Its ok, can trade out for bears +0,  49ers about 7 euroGrin. Not an issue just that I stayed-up for this - love NFL, particularly close low-scoring matches, suits my approach.

Also this delay annoys the hell out of me. Find I'm watching the match via the Betfair prices!
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:06 AM GMT
I blame the playcalling more than Campbell; I expected him to be better than Kapaernick tonight (and, speaking as a Raiders fan, I've seen a few of his games when he was there).  But to run so much in the opening couple of drives doesn't show you have much confidence in your QB, and the D surely detects this.

I'm watching via an ESPN stream; despite all the adverts, it's the most enjoyable converage.  Get novelty American adverts: they really want you to consult your MD to try Viagra.
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 3:10 AM GMT
Think i'll do that next week - as long as the stream catches up before next play starts i'm fine - not 2 plays behind like the BBC - dont know why they botheredSad
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:13 AM GMT
Well, if you're not on Betfair betting away the family silver, how would you how it lagged?  And would you care? :)

I get streams from usagoals.com (use Adblock!).. there's usually a dozen or so for NFL, lag and quality varies.
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:14 AM GMT
Sack!  Ker-ching!
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 3:20 AM GMT
I have my own method which involves sniping away on individual plays as you can get 5-10 ticks even on the most average play. Pick drives where I fancy turnover, watch the OL/DL carefully. I'm kind of tuned that way (similar to my Tennis approach).......then start to take it easy and move percentage of green to outsider gradually - if I think there is chance. THIS DOES NOT APPLY HEREGrinGrin - Bears are a busted flush tonight.

Not explaining very well, but it works for many yearsHappy, but I need to be in step with the actual plays.
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 3:21 AM GMT
Come on 49ers, TD here and I think I'll go off with 25-30 quid. That'll do me.
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 3:21 AM GMT
cutler passing yards this season in the 1st half of games has been poor also..they cant come from behind against top teams
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 3:22 AM GMT
bears smashed Laugh
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:23 AM GMT
SF TD!  Night, Wallflower :)  Understand the approach, done some tennis trading myself.  My NFL streams are usually ~15s behind, I guess - I see odds change dramatically after an interception, then see it in the stream slightly after.
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:24 AM GMT
Is the Bears record suspect, Harry?  Wins against poor teams, lose against decent teams?

I know they have Campbell in for Cutler, but they're just awful tonight.  Everywhere.
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:26 AM GMT
Bears shutout tonight?  I'd put a tenner on that right now.
Report Wallflower November 20, 2012 3:26 AM GMT
Ok, good night all. Just remembered its Thanksgiving on Thursday - so plenty more opportunities.

23 euro profit Laugh.

Good night.
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 3:26 AM GMT
all about opinions but I have been against the bears all season...defence is very good but being smashed tonight...they have relied on turnovers to win games..even beating carolina they needed turnovers and defensive TDs...They are not good enough simple as
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 3:28 AM GMT
the best 2 teams they have faced this season...niners and packers..lost both...lost a tight game v houston...losing cutler in that game took away any chance of a win
Report Violencia Fantastico Retardo November 20, 2012 3:31 AM GMT
I hope Gruden never takes another coaching job. his commentary and insight is superb. even in a one horse race like this
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
philadelphia bound
Report CakeOrDeath November 20, 2012 3:32 AM GMT
He's being courted, I've heard.
Report Violencia Fantastico Retardo November 20, 2012 3:33 AM GMT
not with vick though surely ?
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
gruden knowledge is superb so good to have him in commentary.

mike mayock is good if you want to know info on any college player and what he eats for breakfast..dont think their is anything he doesnt know
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 3:36 AM GMT
No not with vick at philly...he knows foles very well so possibly him...
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 20, 2012 3:49 AM GMT
I cant even find it on the BBC website.
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 20, 2012 3:50 AM GMT
they are still advertising last week's game Plain
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 20, 2012 3:51 AM GMT
maybe BBC Sport are using the Betfair model of how to run a website
Report Srichaphan or Ancic? November 20, 2012 3:52 AM GMT
Giving up trying to find it on there.
Report Musik November 20, 2012 4:12 AM GMT
Have to say Wow Surprised San Fran is a Monster
Report HARRY22 November 20, 2012 4:17 AM GMT
do you not have a tv
Report Beaniash November 20, 2012 6:31 PM GMT
EPIC FAIL BY ME BACKING THESE BEARS ... NOT AS GOOD AS I THOUGHT WITHOUT CUTLER I GUESS
Report orioles November 20, 2012 7:10 PM GMT
Campbell is limited, BL, and that O line would kill a good QB!

Cutler must spend his Saturdays hiding under his bed, poor sod.
Report sideshowbob November 20, 2012 7:17 PM GMT
blow. out.

cake or death? cake please.
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