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TINnotaTON
14 Nov 11 22:31
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reported that schaub injured his foot on a qb sneak against the bucs sunday, definatley out after bye week against jacksonville (matt leinart will start)
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Report molars1 November 14, 2011 10:49 PM GMT
Leinart was terrible in Arizona.  This could be Houston's season over if the injury is as bad as it appears.
Report TINnotaTON November 14, 2011 10:52 PM GMT
mmmm, probably just as well they have the late bye week, couldnt have come at a better time for them
Report CrazySnake November 15, 2011 12:02 AM GMT
Leinart has improved significantly in Houston. This team is a defensively focussed outfit with a solid running game. Far from season over in my view. They are already banged up but likely to get Andre Johnson back after the break.
Market overreacting as usual. People are idiots.
Report CrazySnake November 15, 2011 12:29 AM GMT
20/1 last matched Houston. Hilarious.
Report Saluting Darren Lockyer November 15, 2011 12:35 AM GMT
should be 40/1
Report CrazySnake November 15, 2011 12:37 AM GMT
You're an idiot
Report Saluting Darren Lockyer November 15, 2011 12:40 AM GMT
Thank you,sounds like you have a position on houston but lets get real,beating the likes of jacksonville,cleveland and tampa and now losing schaub is the end of any slim chance they had this year.
Report CrazySnake November 15, 2011 12:44 AM GMT
I dont have a position on Houston but will be taking one now. This team can lean heavily on their D and their running game and have a very soft schedule. They'll probably be number 2  or 3 seed into the playoffs in a very even AFC year.
Report Nilsson Schmilsson November 15, 2011 12:45 AM GMT
if leinhart can manage to dunk it off to foster they'll be ok
Report Saluting Darren Lockyer November 15, 2011 12:49 AM GMT
well they could make the playoffs because they're in a bad division but it may come down to the titans game end of season.Nevertheless leinart is a decidely average qb,he wont be winning any post seasons games.
Report CrazySnake November 15, 2011 12:57 AM GMT
Lot of teams winning with pretty average QBs this season. Alot of them dont have the running game or the defense Houston does.
I just think this is a major over-correction.
Baltimore won a Superbowl with a worse offense than this. So did Tampa Bay.
Time will tell.
Report Saluting Darren Lockyer November 15, 2011 1:07 AM GMT
just trying to save you some money.
Against a leinart led outfit i'd fancy the chances of the patriots, jets, bills, ravens, steelers, bengals, raiders and titans.
Report grayhawk November 15, 2011 1:21 AM GMT
Them Baltimore and Tampa Bay teams which won Superbowls both had elite defences....wouldn't say that about Houstons.
Report CrazySnake November 15, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
This is statistically the top ranked D in the NFL and only the 13th ranked passing offense. Leinart won't need to be good for them to do well. If their running game continues to shine even Leinart will be able to run the offense.
Report Saluting Darren Lockyer November 15, 2011 1:29 AM GMT
Like you said ,they have a very soft schedule,stats can be misleading but hey its your money
Report db1974 November 15, 2011 10:18 AM GMT
Looking at the remaining schedules:

Texans (7-3)
Week 11: Bye
Week 12: @ Jaguars - WIN
Week 13: v Falcons - LOSS
Week 14: @ Bengals - LOSS
Week 15: v Panthers - WIN
Week 16: @ Colts - WIN

This would leave the Texans on 10-5 going into Week 17 at home to the Titans

Titans (5-4)
Week 11: @ Falcons - LOSS
Week 12: v Buccaneers - WIN
Week 13: @ Bills - LOSS
Week 14: v Saints - LOSS
Week 15: @ Colts - WIN
Week 16: v Jaguars - WIN

This would leave the Titans at 8-7 going into Week 17 on road to Texans

IMO the 2 games which are up in the air would be the Titans @ Bills in Week 13 which could go either way and also the Texans v Panthers which the Panthers could upset the odds and win.

The Titans would need both those games to go their way to have any chance of making the playoffs because they lost to the Jaguars in Week 1, meaning the Texans will have the better divisional record (assuming everyone beats the Jaguars & Colts down the stretch).
Report d13phe November 15, 2011 12:08 PM GMT
Not sure the Bengals would beat the Texans

To be fair all that Schaub has been doing recently is handing the ball off to Foster and Tate who have been unstoppable
Report db1974 November 15, 2011 1:23 PM GMT
Bengals have 2nd best rush defense in the League so I assume the Texans would have to throw more
Report TINnotaTON November 15, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
schaub's injury is bad news for houston if he is unable to return, doubtfull if leinhart will get it done even if he is better than his arizona days,
Back up qb issue looks premium again here, but you can say that for a lot of teams
Report d13phe November 15, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
I like where the bengals are going as a team but I think you have to look at their schedule so far which hasn't been to difficult
Report HARRY22 November 15, 2011 6:13 PM GMT
schefter is saying he IS done for the season
Report HARRY22 November 15, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
damn shame for the texans...they had a very good shot at a championship game at least..also had the main man AJ to come back. agree d13 bengals have a nightmare of a schedule..best corner also out
Report Knight Rider November 15, 2011 6:57 PM GMT
Cry
Report HARRY22 November 15, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
lol...not many on here but i remember knight rider being the big texans fan..after all them seasons of frustration..losing games on the last play..finally they arrive with this beast of a running game and a no1 ranked D...all going 2 well...still win the division
Report Knight Rider November 15, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
Very harsh...especially with Johnson having missed so much time already.

I actually think Schaub is not all that good tbh...just lucky to work with an excellent OL, RBs and receivers.  But still probably a huge step down to Leinart.  We'll see I guess.
Report HARRY22 November 15, 2011 7:24 PM GMT
Look at some of the QBs who have stepped up this season...wouldnt surprise me if the texans continue to win games without schaub.  Agree schaub is nothing special..surrounded by top draw players.
Report CrazySnake November 16, 2011 12:55 AM GMT
I am really quite bullish on Leinart's ability to step up here. All is not lost, Knight Rider. Plenty of teams have won Superbowls with lesser QBs than Leinart. The AFC is weaker than the NFC this season. Houston is still a genuine chance to make the big dance, and beyond that anything can happen.
Report db1974 November 16, 2011 10:12 AM GMT
CrazySnake 
I am really quite bullish on Leinart's ability to step up here. All is not lost, Knight Rider. Plenty of teams have won Superbowls with lesser QBs than Leinart. The AFC is weaker than the NFC this season. Houston is still a genuine chance to make the big dance, and beyond that anything can happen.



The last 8 Superbowl winning QBs have been

Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
Ben Roethlisberger
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Tom Brady
Tom Brady

It's a passing league now and you won't win anything without a very very good QB

I agree that the Texans will make the Playoffs but there is no way they will beat the Jets, Steelers, or Ravens in the Wildcard game without Schaub
Report Saluting Darren Lockyer November 16, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
good post,wondering which qb's he's referring to ,assume he's talking the likes of trent dilfer ,doug williams ? they arent lesser qb's than leinart so who are these qb's
Report db1974 November 16, 2011 4:02 PM GMT
Here's a pretty good article on Leinart - get that 23s while you can!

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/
post/_/id/9741/is-matt-leinart-better-than-you-think
Report CrazySnake November 16, 2011 11:37 PM GMT
Actually, db1974, I think you just made my point. Schaub isnt in the class of any of those guys either. How much are they really losing with Leinart?
Report orioles November 17, 2011 1:35 AM GMT
Passer Ratings 2011

1    Aaron Rodgers
2    Tom Brady
3    Drew Brees
4    Tony Romo
5    Eli Manning
6    Matt Schaub
7    Alex Smith
8    Ben Roethlisberger
9    Matthew Stafford
10    Matt Hasselbeck,
Report TINnotaTON November 27, 2011 9:56 PM GMT
Leinhart hurt today, down to t j yates and kellen clemons,
just as well it was the jags.
Report grayhawk November 27, 2011 9:58 PM GMT
Just as well it was Gabbert...he was shocking.
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