Idiot.. WTF did you tip the Mets for? Don't ever tip them again you d1ck..

Well, this is why betting from the start of a match MLB is a lottery. Even in game that should only go one way, as with this Mets yesterday. Anyone can beat anyone in any given circumstance if you bet from the offset in this sport. Add to that, it's early in the season.

VandenHurk was pretty dodgy and was pulled early in the game. However, even more worrying Pedro looked a shadow of his former-self, and not only that - pulled his hamstring and will probably miss about a month+ of the season.

Mets should have won late on as they had chances but never took them.

Apart from the fact this was a robbery, which left me thieved and mugged.

I have no excuses at all.

My record has took a beating early on, mainly because I went out on a limb from the start of a MLB match.

2/4 Not pretty, but will inevitably get better.

However, thats the fun of Baseball betting; betting from the start. It's a danger betting from the offset, but fun. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise ask them for a screenshot.

In-running is the way forward in this sport. If you want to guarantee a win, Stick to in-running, with more than a healthy lead. As this thread as already shown you - a 3-0 lead from the middle of 6th for example is never enough. Especially if you have a bullpen on par with Detroit.

Onwards and Upwards.

Odwyer.. LOL.. just a tantrum there.. I support the mets and didn't have penny on them, but forget your "losses" for a minute... The big discussion is Pedro :( I remember 2 years ago when he gave up 10 runs in 2 innings i thnk to the Phillies to similar conditions as last night, slightly chilly with a breeze and couldn't find the plate. Even if he comes back healthy, the weather is a big factor in whether he can win games.

You stated that when Pedro's on he's one of the best in MLB! I'm a huge fan of Pedro but even you must know he's become a righthanded Tommy Glavine, relying on location, changeup to get by. As you know Tommy Glavine is still capable of gems but more likely to throw a bad game as well. He's simply average now. Johnny Maine, Olover Perez should be ahead of Pedro. As for the Mets' season, I do fear for them and need Mike Pelfrey and Duaner Sanchez to step up to the hype afforded to them so far to bolster the pitching. Alou is the big factor for the offence and just can't see a trade down the line that could help the Mets this year.

I went out on a limb from the start of a MLB match.

Yeah,tipping a 2s on chance,really went out on a limb there Odwyer :^0

Hi PTBAN... I checked the scores this morning.. quite tight now.. you got 6 points on me :) and MM way behind.. fecked his picks up and now has no trades :D

Yep.. Have to.. For that price he's a bargain imo... Won't be trading anybody for a month at least unless their value's gone through the roof.. rack up my trades and save em for June. ;)

You get points ribbies and HRs, SB, and minus for a 0fer..

Tip 5

KC Royals @ Detroit Tigers

Detroit @ 1.55

I dont usually touch teams that are on the verge of a 3 game sweep, nor considering what I said previously about touching teams from the off-set, but if anyone wants a decent chase bet at some modest odds, consider the following:

Detroit Tigers with one of the best teams in MLB have lost their first 2 games at home to the Derby County of Baseball - Kansas City Royals.

Detroit have one of the best line-ups and are fancied to do well come October.

Well, my basis is - surely they cannot get swept 3-0 by KC at home!

They lost the first game 5-4
They lost the second game 4-0

My advice is, theyll finally get a home win tonight and get their season off to a start.

Jeremy Bonderman, pitching for Detroit is pretty good but Zac Greinke is no mug for Kansas either though.

Those looking for a relatively decent chase-bet might want to look at this.

From Tigers.com

DET: RHP Jeremy Bonderman (11-9, 501 ERA in 2007)
For what it's worth anymore with an improved Royals club, Bonderman has more wins against Kansas City (nine) than against any other team in his career. He just about dominated them in 2007, posting a 1.80 ERA in 20 innings over three starts, one of them a victory and two others resulting in no-decisions.

KC: RHP Zack Greinke (7-3, 3.69 ERA in 2007)
Greinke is a different type of pitcher than Bannister and Gil Meche, Monday's starter, so it remains to be seen what he'll take from their success over the first two games. Still, Greinke has had plenty of success against Detroit in his own right, posting a 6-3 record and a 3.40 ERA over 13 career appearances, 10 of them starts.

Tidbits
The Tigers were shut out three times last season. Each time, they won their next game. ... Ivan Rodriguez is 8-for-18 with a home run and four RBIs for his career against Greinke. But then, he has more hits against the Royals than any other active Major Leaguer. ... Following Thursday's game, Leyland will head to Joe Louis Arena and drop the ceremonial first puck prior to the Red Wings' game against the Blue Jackets.

PTBN, it wouldn't be a horrible price if it wins, as it's a winning bet.

It's a good price imo. Detroit at home - what more do you expect?!

The market sees KC as I do, fodder waiting to happen.

Thats a terrible price mate. Bonderman is the definition of unreliable and Grienke quite capable of shutting down a lineup - i would steer clear or lay detroit.

It would (or at least could) still be a horrible price if it wins. Because the price is given and taken before we know whether it wins or not and reflects the odds of it happening.

eg. I give you odds of 1.01 on Detroit winning this game. They win. That does not mean the odds were good as Detroit certainly would not win this game 99% of the time!

Also, please get this gamblers fallacy out of your head about "they've lost two in a row and can't possibly get swept"...today is an independent event and the fact that they lost two has nothing to do with it. (Unless you argue that they will try harder to avoid the sweep or something, but they should be giving 100% anyway and this would certainly have a negligible impact).

What i'd like to know is where is john now, when its all gone t!ts up for his followers?? shudn't he be here in the trenches with his loyal troops, helping them find a way out of the mire???
c'mon John...your followers need you. Dont desert them in this, their hour of need!!!

hey im 2/2 so far this year on baseball

LOL.. Oh dear :)

I'm doing my absolute insides following your advices. Is this some sort of sick joke from the Ladcrooks PR team?

Call yourself a Tipster, O'Dwyer, as they say in Yonkers, "You suck".

This isn't going well is it John

Top tipping John.

Tip 6

White Sox @ Detroit 20:55pm

Detroit @ 1.67

Detroit have gone 0-4 since starting the season and as you can see, have pretty much haunted me, as I have tipped them to do well.

However, with their future ace on the mound tonight against the White Sox (Dontrelle Willis) they'll make it 5th time lucky.

They will win sooner or later and everything points towards tonight being their first success. White Sox won the first game of the series yesterday 8-5 and have a hittable Gavin Floyd pitching tonight.

The reason they've been useless is because of an awful bullpen and terrible hitting, no thanks to Ordonez, who is big time off-form.

Detroit have been toilet so far, but it's impossible for an MLB to not win a game sooner or later. What do I base them winning this on? The fact that they are due a win - which applies in MLB in this situation and the massive fact that they're one of the favourites to win the whole thing from the start.

The 0-4 record looks likely to end tonight.

Dontrelle Willis is trustworthy when on his game and Detroit should get a hatful of hits tonight against this rookie MLB pitcher.

Bet on Detroit @ 1.67 as these are as good of oods as you'll see.

It should be a 1 way cruise to 1.01.

CWS: RHP Gavin Floyd (0-0, -.-- ERA)

Blessed with the raw stuff to be a No. 1 or No. 2 starter, according to White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen, Floyd might finally have the confidence to match his talent. The right-hander started to make strides in the right direction at the end of last year, finishing with a 3.41 ERA over his last six starts and holding opposing hitters to a .269 average. Floyd needs to do a better job keeping the ball in the park after allowing 17 home runs last year in 70 innings pitched, including 10 at U.S. Cellular Field. But Floyd put up strong numbers against Detroit in 2007, posting a 2.66 ERA in 23 2/3 innings, making him a strong matchup for this particular opening start.

DET: LHP Dontrelle Willis (0-0, -.-- ERA)

Willis will make his American League debut under the spotlight of a home crowd and a FOX regional broadcast, starting what he hopes is a rebound campaign following season highs in losses and ERA during his final season for Florida last year. He pitched through command issues in Spring Training, but the mid-90s mph velocity on his fastball gives the Tigers reason for encouragement.

Tidbits

A.J. Pierzynski, hitting .529 during his four-game hitting streak to start the season, will give way to Toby Hall for Saturday's afternoon game. Guillen wants to rest Pierzynski before playing him Sunday night, and in Monday afternoon's home opener. "I'll be more than happy to let him have Dontrelle tomorrow," said Pierzynski of Hall ... Bobby Jenks' second save this season gives him 83 since 2006, and 89 for his career. The total of 83 ranks third behind Trevor Hoffman and Francisco Rodriguez in that three-season span ... Carlos Quentin has the only career home run off of Willis among White Sox hitters.

OMG.. you never learn.. was just thinking Brewers -1.5 and Chisox were the early leans for me... You're bound to win one, so i'll sit this game out.. Think I'll get plenty of entertainment on here alone ;)GL..

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