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The man is a punditry maverick
The man is a punditry maverick
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Ha ha. Sometimes he sounds like he really knows his stuff. Sometimes he sounds clueless.
I get the impression that he understands his job and similar really well and has no clue at all about the NFL
Better than Nick.
He only uses the same phrases
COVER TWO
DUMP OFF PASS
Clueless but better than he was when he used to talk to the camera
He only uses the same phrases
COVER TWO
DUMP OFF PASS
Clueless but better than he was when he used to talk to the camera
they are both very good - usual keyboard **e on here....
Jeff is quality.
I remember when Nick used to get a question from a co-host and then answer it to the camera... What was that all about.
I remember when Nick used to get a question from a co-host and then answer it to the camera... What was that all about.
He's trying to set his son up with some random bird now :^0
Have to agree with d13, Shaun Gayle is the man. Makes the rest look positively dumb in comparison. Mind you, that's not hard in Ian Allen's case.
I'd love to chat with Gayle for an hour or two off the record in a pub or something and find out what he really thinks about some stuff.
I've said before that he's the most employable presenter (though i prefer Allen personally), but I wish he wasn't so PC.
I've said before that he's the most employable presenter (though i prefer Allen personally), but I wish he wasn't so PC.
gayle is a nobody compared to jeff. every comment he makes seems forced and he thinks he is much better than he is at the punditry lark. i guarantee you rhienbold has 10x as much football knowledge as gayle.
TOP MAN.
"Hell, that guy's girlfriend is something else! My wife puts me on waivers every third week."
:^0
"Hell, that guy's girlfriend is something else! My wife puts me on waivers every third week."
:^0
Really enjoyed learning more about the game with him. Top man.
Rheinebold had a six-figure salary with NFL Europe but left to work for $842.23 per month to coach with the Hawaii Warriors. Crazy name, crazy guy. I like him.
LOL@ the internet traders who think they have more knowledge of the game than JEFF REINBOLD...you have to laugh at this.
I couldn`t belive the cr*p he came out with when the Colts lost the coin toss against San Diego:
"If I`m Dungy, I want the Chargers to get the ball first. My defence can stop them and the offence will get great field position".
What a load of cods wallop!! Something you`d expect from a clueless to**er sitting in the pub. not an expert NFL analyst. Glad Nick Halling was there to put him right:
"Surely not. Even if they manage to stop them, which is questionable, the way Schifres is punting the Colts are very unlikely to get decent field position".
Glad someone knows what they are talking about.
"If I`m Dungy, I want the Chargers to get the ball first. My defence can stop them and the offence will get great field position".
What a load of cods wallop!! Something you`d expect from a clueless to**er sitting in the pub. not an expert NFL analyst. Glad Nick Halling was there to put him right:
"Surely not. Even if they manage to stop them, which is questionable, the way Schifres is punting the Colts are very unlikely to get decent field position".
Glad someone knows what they are talking about.
Take it you never read moneyball then Harry?
It's entirely possible for the statty/geeky types to know a lot more about what goes towards winning a game than the coaches/managers. It doesn't mean they could make the calls under pressure better than those guys, or tune up the WRs to get the maximum output from them, but as a general rule a lot of very good coaches have no idea what factors make up a winning game.
It doesn't mean the geeks could do the job better, but it does mean they can analyse stuff better.
Note: This is a generalisation. Sky presentations of NFL work incredibly well because Nick does a very good job of representing the geeks while actually being a watchable presenter (unlike someone like me who would speak at 100mph and fumble something at least once a week) and is always complimented by someone from inside the game who represents the coaching/playing side of things.
Do the statty types know more about football than someone who has coached at a high level.... for the most part, no. Do they have a better idea as to "keys to the game"? For the most part yes they do.
It's what makes Bellichick so amazing, he's willing to mix his experience up with taking advice from the right people. He'll ask some geek in a hut somewhere to run the numbers for him and take that advice on board. It's no coincidence that he uses timeouts more liberally and goes for fourth downs more often than the vast majority of coaches I'm sure.
It's entirely possible for the statty/geeky types to know a lot more about what goes towards winning a game than the coaches/managers. It doesn't mean they could make the calls under pressure better than those guys, or tune up the WRs to get the maximum output from them, but as a general rule a lot of very good coaches have no idea what factors make up a winning game.
It doesn't mean the geeks could do the job better, but it does mean they can analyse stuff better.
Note: This is a generalisation. Sky presentations of NFL work incredibly well because Nick does a very good job of representing the geeks while actually being a watchable presenter (unlike someone like me who would speak at 100mph and fumble something at least once a week) and is always complimented by someone from inside the game who represents the coaching/playing side of things.
Do the statty types know more about football than someone who has coached at a high level.... for the most part, no. Do they have a better idea as to "keys to the game"? For the most part yes they do.
It's what makes Bellichick so amazing, he's willing to mix his experience up with taking advice from the right people. He'll ask some geek in a hut somewhere to run the numbers for him and take that advice on board. It's no coincidence that he uses timeouts more liberally and goes for fourth downs more often than the vast majority of coaches I'm sure.
moneyball is a great read
apart from the chapter on stats inc
apart from the chapter on stats inc
LOL Ron.
I laugh, because I agree with the bad chapter part as well!
I laugh, because I agree with the bad chapter part as well!
Lori 05 Jan 19:01
It's what makes Bellichick so amazing, he's willing to mix his experience up with taking advice from the right people. He'll ask some geek in a hut somewhere to run the numbers for him and take that advice on board. It's no coincidence that he uses timeouts more liberally and goes for fourth downs more often than the vast majority of coaches I'm sure.
Spot on. Various studies have shown that NFL coaches have tended not to go for it often enough on 4th down in recent years and Belichick was the first to pick up on that trend.
I don't follow baseball so don't know about moneyball but Football Outsiders do an excellent job of analysing the game in an alternative, more rational way than the traditional one, and are making such an impact that we are starting to see the end of commentators saying things like "teams that run the football 30+ times tend to win games", rather than "teams that win games tend to end up running the ball more than 30 times". Still waiting to hear a commentator or pundit refer to a player's DVOA, though...
It's what makes Bellichick so amazing, he's willing to mix his experience up with taking advice from the right people. He'll ask some geek in a hut somewhere to run the numbers for him and take that advice on board. It's no coincidence that he uses timeouts more liberally and goes for fourth downs more often than the vast majority of coaches I'm sure.
Spot on. Various studies have shown that NFL coaches have tended not to go for it often enough on 4th down in recent years and Belichick was the first to pick up on that trend.
I don't follow baseball so don't know about moneyball but Football Outsiders do an excellent job of analysing the game in an alternative, more rational way than the traditional one, and are making such an impact that we are starting to see the end of commentators saying things like "teams that run the football 30+ times tend to win games", rather than "teams that win games tend to end up running the ball more than 30 times". Still waiting to hear a commentator or pundit refer to a player's DVOA, though...
You got to know that every coach and player knows more about the game then us, but then Donavan McNabb did not know about OVERTIME makes you wonder!
Advocating piracy tonight, lol. How can you go back to Johnny Mitchell after Jeff.
jeff is clearly on the patriots tonight
he was seething with the Pats Defense
he was seething with the Pats Defense
who was the dude on last week...think he played for the old london team??he is just as bad..worse actually
The brummie...a bit of a nob, can at least string a sentence together though.
Sky pundits (best to worse)
Jeff
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Gayle
The white american dude
Cecil
Tarantula Hair dude
Reynolds
Brummie
Gerry
That englsh mug who played for the pats practise team, yet still flashed the superbowl hardware like he earned it
Johnny Mitchell
Sky pundits (best to worse)
Jeff
-
-
Gayle
The white american dude
Cecil
Tarantula Hair dude
Reynolds
Brummie
Gerry
That englsh mug who played for the pats practise team, yet still flashed the superbowl hardware like he earned it
Johnny Mitchell
Would add a few ----'s before Reynolds there. Have you heard him on Five Live? Has the worst voice for broadcasting of all time.
Yeh, he does sound like a foppish dandy. He cant help it though. Could have a broadcasting voice and struggle to grasp basic english like mitchell. Much worse imo.
Seamless reintroduction of a year-old thread here IMO...
"Like they say in vegas, if you aint got a set, you aint getting the blue *****
Leged.
Leged.
he's class. sorry doesn't get it done, kicking the ball through the posts gets it done.
Great to see Jeff back in the studio & relief to see the back of the brummy lad whose idea of NFL strategy seemed to revolve entirely around the phenomenon of being "on the same page".
Rheinbold is excellent, and by far the most entertaining of the guests. Comes out with some lovely turn of phrases - eg on a zone coverage error "you dont farm another mans field".
The two Brit ex players who do it are woeful (the Brummie and the Big TE), the other one is average.
Would prefer Nick to do it without a guest rather than have those two on
The two Brit ex players who do it are woeful (the Brummie and the Big TE), the other one is average.
Would prefer Nick to do it without a guest rather than have those two on
Legend - i'll join.
Sky analysis has been poor recently and i considered watching more games on the net as the US coverage is better. Watched the play-offs this weekend and they helped explained strengths and weaknesses and what teams may be able to exploit in the limited time they have. I don't think Jeff's back next week tho? :-( (hopefuly Cecil if he's not.)
I also think that Jeff actually mad Nick & Kev focus more on actually analysing the game and talking about the teams in question and whats going on - rather than talking about the god damn in-house fantasy league.
Sky analysis has been poor recently and i considered watching more games on the net as the US coverage is better. Watched the play-offs this weekend and they helped explained strengths and weaknesses and what teams may be able to exploit in the limited time they have. I don't think Jeff's back next week tho? :-( (hopefuly Cecil if he's not.)
I also think that Jeff actually mad Nick & Kev focus more on actually analysing the game and talking about the teams in question and whats going on - rather than talking about the god damn in-house fantasy league.
"That guy is a whole plate of pork chops"
Jeff is MONEY :)
Jeff is MONEY :)
He was unlucky in the Derby. If Lester, greatest jockey ever, had been on him he would have won and Roberto would have finished second. He would be at Stud now and Sky would need a new presenter.
That was Rheingold, I`m still trying to get over Greville Starkey`s ride on Dancing Brave....
Mike Mayock is amazing, but we are comparing UK based pundits here.
Anyway, imagine this pundit team:
Host - Rich Eisen
Pundits: Rhienbold, Mayock, Michael Irvin, Collinsworth, Ditka...omg...game over.
Anyway, imagine this pundit team:
Host - Rich Eisen
Pundits: Rhienbold, Mayock, Michael Irvin, Collinsworth, Ditka...omg...game over.
Cant believe they only brought jeff over for one week this year. Was better in 2 shows than the rest of skys pundits combined for the year.
Hopefully we dont have to suffer Bradlee 'I got lost on the way to a Mad Men audition' van pelt again today.
Hopefully we dont have to suffer Bradlee 'I got lost on the way to a Mad Men audition' van pelt again today.
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