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Ace High
04 Jan 09 21:04
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The man is a punditry maverick

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By:
Ron Nasty
When: 04 Jan 09 21:04
did you send that e mail :D
By:
DoggyLFC
When: 04 Jan 09 21:08
Ha ha. Sometimes he sounds like he really knows his stuff. Sometimes he sounds clueless.
By:
Lori
When: 04 Jan 09 21:10
I get the impression that he understands his job and similar really well and has no clue at all about the NFL
By:
Tugboat
When: 04 Jan 09 21:21
Better than Nick.

He only uses the same phrases

COVER TWO

DUMP OFF PASS

Clueless but better than he was when he used to talk to the camera
By:
Lori
When: 04 Jan 09 21:22
Nick's pretty impressive in fairness.
By:
Fairfield Grand
When: 04 Jan 09 21:36
they are both very good - usual keyboard **e on here....
By:
Tugboat
When: 04 Jan 09 21:49
ITS ALL ABOUT OPPINIONS IMO

And thats mine you *&^%
By:
ND47
When: 04 Jan 09 21:55
Jeff is quality.

I remember when Nick used to get a question from a co-host and then answer it to the camera... What was that all about.
By:
Ron Nasty
When: 04 Jan 09 21:59
watching stevo too much
By:
d13phe
When: 04 Jan 09 22:17
give me shaun the man gayle anyday

jeff is an idiot
By:
DoggyLFC
When: 04 Jan 09 22:19
He's trying to set his son up with some random bird now :^0
By:
Ron Nasty
When: 04 Jan 09 22:19
helen?
By:
DoggyLFC
When: 04 Jan 09 22:20
Have to agree with d13, Shaun Gayle is the man. Makes the rest look positively dumb in comparison. Mind you, that's not hard in Ian Allen's case.
By:
d13phe
When: 04 Jan 09 22:21
Ian Allen

lol

Cant go wrong with Nick Halling tbh
By:
Lori
When: 04 Jan 09 22:21
I'd love to chat with Gayle for an hour or two off the record in a pub or something and find out what he really thinks about some stuff.

I've said before that he's the most employable presenter (though i prefer Allen personally), but I wish he wasn't so PC.
By:
Ace High
When: 04 Jan 09 22:24
gayle is a nobody compared to jeff. every comment he makes seems forced and he thinks he is much better than he is at the punditry lark. i guarantee you rhienbold has 10x as much football knowledge as gayle.
By:
d13phe
When: 04 Jan 09 22:25
your not jeff's son are you?
By:
Ron Nasty
When: 04 Jan 09 22:30
jeff was great in goodfellers imo
By:
bigtime
When: 04 Jan 09 22:46
Jeff's number two behind carlson for me.
By:
Ron Nasty
When: 04 Jan 09 22:48
was also good in gone fishing
By:
roughyed.
When: 04 Jan 09 23:05
I'm a Cecil man.
By:
orioles
When: 04 Jan 09 23:10
TOP MAN.

"Hell, that guy's girlfriend is something else! My wife puts me on waivers every third week."

:^0
By:
Ieuan Evans
When: 04 Jan 09 23:54
Can't even take his fkn tie off properly.
By:
Daryl Revok
When: 05 Jan 09 00:15
Really enjoyed learning more about the game with him. Top man.
By:
darkroom
When: 05 Jan 09 09:14
Rheinebold had a six-figure salary with NFL Europe but left to work for $842.23 per month to coach with the Hawaii Warriors. Crazy name, crazy guy. I like him.
By:
HARRY22
When: 05 Jan 09 09:26
LOL@ the internet traders who think they have more knowledge of the game than JEFF REINBOLD...you have to laugh at this.
By:
themightymac
When: 05 Jan 09 11:28
I couldn`t belive the cr*p he came out with when the Colts lost the coin toss against San Diego:

"If I`m Dungy, I want the Chargers to get the ball first. My defence can stop them and the offence will get great field position".

What a load of cods wallop!! Something you`d expect from a clueless to**er sitting in the pub. not an expert NFL analyst. Glad Nick Halling was there to put him right:

"Surely not. Even if they manage to stop them, which is questionable, the way Schifres is punting the Colts are very unlikely to get decent field position".

Glad someone knows what they are talking about.
By:
Lori
When: 05 Jan 09 18:01
Take it you never read moneyball then Harry?

It's entirely possible for the statty/geeky types to know a lot more about what goes towards winning a game than the coaches/managers. It doesn't mean they could make the calls under pressure better than those guys, or tune up the WRs to get the maximum output from them, but as a general rule a lot of very good coaches have no idea what factors make up a winning game.

It doesn't mean the geeks could do the job better, but it does mean they can analyse stuff better.

Note: This is a generalisation. Sky presentations of NFL work incredibly well because Nick does a very good job of representing the geeks while actually being a watchable presenter (unlike someone like me who would speak at 100mph and fumble something at least once a week) and is always complimented by someone from inside the game who represents the coaching/playing side of things.

Do the statty types know more about football than someone who has coached at a high level.... for the most part, no. Do they have a better idea as to "keys to the game"? For the most part yes they do.
It's what makes Bellichick so amazing, he's willing to mix his experience up with taking advice from the right people. He'll ask some geek in a hut somewhere to run the numbers for him and take that advice on board. It's no coincidence that he uses timeouts more liberally and goes for fourth downs more often than the vast majority of coaches I'm sure.
By:
Ron Nasty
When: 05 Jan 09 18:06
moneyball is a great read

apart from the chapter on stats inc
By:
Lori
When: 05 Jan 09 18:08
LOL Ron.

I laugh, because I agree with the bad chapter part as well!
By:
darkroom
When: 08 Jan 09 12:23
Lori 05 Jan 19:01

It's what makes Bellichick so amazing, he's willing to mix his experience up with taking advice from the right people. He'll ask some geek in a hut somewhere to run the numbers for him and take that advice on board. It's no coincidence that he uses timeouts more liberally and goes for fourth downs more often than the vast majority of coaches I'm sure.


Spot on. Various studies have shown that NFL coaches have tended not to go for it often enough on 4th down in recent years and Belichick was the first to pick up on that trend.

I don't follow baseball so don't know about moneyball but Football Outsiders do an excellent job of analysing the game in an alternative, more rational way than the traditional one, and are making such an impact that we are starting to see the end of commentators saying things like "teams that run the football 30+ times tend to win games", rather than "teams that win games tend to end up running the ball more than 30 times". Still waiting to hear a commentator or pundit refer to a player's DVOA, though...
By:
Ace High
When: 09 Jan 10 23:15
Must have been a few Ofcom moments tonight.
By:
seanvice
When: 09 Jan 10 23:18
great post Lori.
By:
LondonLawman
When: 09 Jan 10 23:28
You got to know that every coach and player knows more about the game then us, but then Donavan McNabb did not know about OVERTIME makes you wonder!
By:
Ace High
When: 10 Jan 10 18:45
Advocating piracy tonight, lol. How can you go back to Johnny Mitchell after Jeff.
By:
d13phe
When: 10 Jan 10 18:48
jeff is clearly on the patriots tonight

he was seething with the Pats Defense
By:
HARRY22
When: 10 Jan 10 18:48
who was the dude on last week...think he played for the old london team??he is just as bad..worse actually
By:
Ace High
When: 10 Jan 10 18:52
The brummie...a bit of a nob, can at least string a sentence together though.

Sky pundits (best to worse)

Jeff
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Gayle
The white american dude
Cecil
Tarantula Hair dude
Reynolds
Brummie
Gerry
That englsh mug who played for the pats practise team, yet still flashed the superbowl hardware like he earned it
Johnny Mitchell
By:
jimmy d
When: 10 Jan 10 20:55
Would add a few ----'s before Reynolds there. Have you heard him on Five Live? Has the worst voice for broadcasting of all time.
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