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By:
dj876
When: 19 Apr 16 22:39

Apr 19, 2016 -- 10:12PM, Arklearkle wrote:


I doubt very much if JP does much punting nowadays apart from some of the higher profile races but no doubt many of his acquaintances/hangers-on punt plenty. There is nothing in it for him so I cant understand how he allows all the shenanigans to continue. Strange and I dont understand why - or perhaps I'm missing something.


EGO-Power. It's no longer for monetary gain for him

The ability to act and behave with total impunity.

I wouldn't under-estimate the extent of how much his immediate family is still involved with the weekly racing markets,master manipulators.

Anyone with his wealth and of any moral compass would be embarrassed as to how his horses are campaigned.

By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 19 Apr 16 23:53
What do you do if you have a useless son with expensive habits.
You let him go on a no questions asked exchange where he can do some judicious laying.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 27 Apr 16 18:41
Matt Chapman - "Another brilliant ride form Barry J Geraghty on Carlingford Lough @ Punchestown. Bet the Limerick Races stewards are pleased. Yeeehaaa!"
By:
workrider
When: 27 Apr 16 19:48
Catch ,it makes it all the worse when you see what he CAN do when one is WANTED imo...
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 27 Apr 16 21:20
below is appeal body onclusion

Having considered the evidence, the Appeals Body noted that the race was unsatisfactory in the context of the way it was run. It was clear that Noble Emperor’s opportunity of winning had dissipated from a very early stage and in the circumstances second place was the best possible placing he could have achieved. They had to address whether or not Barry Geraghty made an error of judgement, and if he had done so, was there a breach of Rule 212. Their decision was based upon events as the race unfolded and whether or not different tactics were used, would the horse have obtained a better placing. In their view they were not satisfied that different tactics would have given the horse any opportunity to win and accepted that the horse did not have any opportunity to win the race at any relevant time. They noted that when maximum pressure was applied to Noble Emperor, it only produced a modest reaction and in the context of how the race was run, the opinion of the Appeals Body was that the horse’s best possible finishing position was second. On that basis they allowed all the appeals.
By:
workrider
When: 27 Apr 16 21:40
Maximum pressure ,you're having a laugh .
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 27 Apr 16 21:45
the only time barry applied any pressure was when he approached the second last...........he was then 20 lengths behind and the RACE WAS OVER...........this is a total farce. how can any jockey now be banned for not trying "sir, please tell me barry G tried harder on noble emperor"

and another thing.........the appeal body seems to imply that if u lose ground at the start a jockey can now just do nothing because the opportunity of winning had dissipated from a very early stage and in the circumstances second place was the best possible placing he could have achieved
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 27 Apr 16 21:48
no one in the media has analysed what the appeal body has said..........they dare not upset the gravy train..........all one happy family...........taxpayers, please keep paying the subsidy......we are all great lads..........every jockey is a grand lad.......every trainer is shrewd.......roll on punchestown
By:
cloone river
When: 27 Apr 16 21:54
RTE2 cover it today with david jennings from the racingpost.
By:
workrider
When: 27 Apr 16 21:54
Exactly BDJ , shameful in its belief that all punters are gobshytes ,I must remember to tell my mate to have a few quid  on one of mine as evidence ,you couldn't make it up ffs .
By:
cloone river
When: 27 Apr 16 22:00
And the betting slip was from the magic sign.
By:
workrider
When: 27 Apr 16 22:03
Surely not the same bookie whos rep was better informed than most re Coolmore .Well I'll be danmed ...Laugh
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 27 Apr 16 22:09
what did david jennings say?
By:
cloone river
When: 27 Apr 16 22:15
More or less that the horse has prom
By:
cloone river
When: 27 Apr 16 22:18
More or less that the horse has problems,bad start,handicapper put him up a pound so it was his best run over hundles.
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 27 Apr 16 22:26
everyone is falling all over themselves to give barry the benefit of the doubt.......no one wants to upset the gravy train.
By:
Arklearkle
When: 28 Apr 16 12:25
Cloone I was wondering about the betting slip. Was there any information given wrt the betting slip such as was it time-stamped, when was it placed  etc etc. You could say that in a court of law we would have been told who placed the bet etc. Its all disgraceful.
By:
Kelly
When: 28 Apr 16 20:31
If it was a substantial bet I would reckon it was done via phone or similar . It should be a matter of record then .  If it was on course  it might have been recorded , but then again sometimes the big bets were "gentlemans agreements" , certainly in the old days there was little paper about among the toffs and bookies . Most of us though have never had a bet "on credit" ( except via a friend maybe ) .
By:
punchestown
When: 28 Apr 16 21:10
Doesn't matter who had what bet,the evidence is there for all to see the ride the horse got,makes you wonder would a betting slip get some lesser well known jockey/trainer off the hook?
By:
workrider
When: 28 Apr 16 21:13
Well said Punchetown.
By:
Kelly
When: 28 Apr 16 22:28
It does matter a great deal who had the bet in question .  If it was emanating from connections of the horse the notion that the horse was not trying becomes purely a review of the jockeyship involved .  Does anyone think BJG would last 10 seconds if he pulled the horse which connections had backed ?
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 May 16 13:28
Catch Me ifyoucan  • May 13, 2016 10:46 AM BST 
And a 66/1 shot wins the Beginners Chase with JP 2nd, 3rd & 4th ! No bet so no 'disappointment'.


NO BET so WAS GLAD to see his horses beaten...just feel for BJG - am losing the respect I had for Barry at an alarming rate ! Devil


wildmanfromborneo  • April 19, 2016 11:53 PM BST 
What do you do if you have a useless son with expensive habits.
You let him go on a no questions asked exchange where he can do some judicious laying.


Catch Me ifyoucan  • April 19, 2016 10:21 PM BST 
"His lasting legacy for me will be one a perennial cheat who could never have enough.".....NOBLE EMPEROR (apt thread title or what Whoops )
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