Thank you Dan, although we do differ slightly regarding getting the winners. If I back a winner I couldn't give two hoots what country it came from, and if it meant collecting the reddies, it wouldn't bother me if John Gilligan trained and Wayne Dundon rode.

The triumph used to be a layer's dream but that's altered since the evolution of the Fred Winter though juvenile hurdles wouldn't be my favourite betting medium by any means.

Surely Gilligan's chance of a festival winner are gone now that CAB have acquired Jessbrook but Dundon could be as prolific as Ruby given his current residence.