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15.45 Newbury- Premier Bond
A standout 11/8 with Bet 365 but generally an even money shot,would imagine that this progressive Kayf tara gelding will be closer to 4/6 tomorrow. He made a very pleasing hurdling debut when pushing his stablemate (Geraghty/Henderson representative at 2015 festival bumper) all the way at Sandown. 11/8 looks extremely generous if able to avail of it.
14.30 Leopardstown- Nicholas Canyon @ 1/2 - No AF rule 4
No marks for originality but why isn't Nicholas Canyon 2/7 -1/4?
This looks a gift,he jumps like a cat,ground isn't a worry.NC is at least the second best 2 mile hurdler in training and will eat these.
Identity thief is only really of grade 2 standard and don't rate last year's triumph form at all. His grade one win in the fighting fifth of Top Notch puts him at a similar level to Hargam who was dismissed with contempt by Faugheen at Kempton.
Windsor park obviously beat him in the Neptune but that wasn't a fair reflection of NC's ability and NC has the benefit of a seasonal run and this 2 mile trip also plays more to his strengths.
Ruby is worth a few pounds against Cooper at the moment whose confidence is shattered but I doubt it will come down to that as NC has 7-10 lbs in hand of IT imo.
A standout 11/8 with Bet 365 but generally an even money shot,would imagine that this progressive Kayf tara gelding will be closer to 4/6 tomorrow. He made a very pleasing hurdling debut when pushing his stablemate (Geraghty/Henderson representative at 2015 festival bumper) all the way at Sandown. 11/8 looks extremely generous if able to avail of it.
14.30 Leopardstown- Nicholas Canyon @ 1/2 - No AF rule 4
No marks for originality but why isn't Nicholas Canyon 2/7 -1/4?
This looks a gift,he jumps like a cat,ground isn't a worry.NC is at least the second best 2 mile hurdler in training and will eat these.
Identity thief is only really of grade 2 standard and don't rate last year's triumph form at all. His grade one win in the fighting fifth of Top Notch puts him at a similar level to Hargam who was dismissed with contempt by Faugheen at Kempton.
Windsor park obviously beat him in the Neptune but that wasn't a fair reflection of NC's ability and NC has the benefit of a seasonal run and this 2 mile trip also plays more to his strengths.
Ruby is worth a few pounds against Cooper at the moment whose confidence is shattered but I doubt it will come down to that as NC has 7-10 lbs in hand of IT imo.
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How is Cooper's confidence shattered?
His last ride was a Grade 1 winner.
Your confidence is obviously in tatters, coming on here and putting up two skinny favourites.
Give us something a little less obvious.
His last ride was a Grade 1 winner.
Your confidence is obviously in tatters, coming on here and putting up two skinny favourites.
Give us something a little less obvious.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Minnie (MINCER) Brennan ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gobber , i dont read the shiite you put up, but please can you put up 3 or more 20/1 shots ew for tomorrow, so we can all have a laugh.
Another good opening thread Descending into name calling, 11/8 AND 1/2 in a double will do me any day of the week,
Minnie(Mincer)Brennan
just to fill you in.
Simple analysis,last time out Nicols Canyon beat Wicklow Brave into 3rd by 1 and 3/4 lengths.
Identity Thief beat Wicklow Brave, by 10 lengths last time out.
Premier Bond is poor value. I prefer Oldgrangewood. PB needs a trip.
Get stuck in to Identity Thief, 11/4 is manna from heaven.
Ma Garrett 7/1 is another E/W selection I fancy.
The lightly raced 9 year old, Kilford e/w 16/1 can exploit his lenient hurdle rating.
Fancy anything yourself Minnie?
just to fill you in. Simple analysis,last time out Nicols Canyon beat Wicklow Brave into 3rd by 1 and 3/4 lengths.
Identity Thief beat Wicklow Brave, by 10 lengths last time out.
Premier Bond is poor value. I prefer Oldgrangewood. PB needs a trip.
Get stuck in to Identity Thief, 11/4 is manna from heaven.
Ma Garrett 7/1 is another E/W selection I fancy.
The lightly raced 9 year old, Kilford e/w 16/1 can exploit his lenient hurdle rating.
Fancy anything yourself Minnie?
Gobshee, identity thief has about as much chance of beating nicholls canyon as you do of having a guess fluke a place
22 losers in a row will be hard to beat but i'll keep trying
Gotchee how would kilford exploit his lenient hurdle rating in a chase?
Gobshee done up like a kipper again! Get into bed ya plum!
The gobber continuing to make a show of himself I see
That was some "ride" on the fav in the first race.
yes punchestown..I fell for that one myself..dreadfull...
anyone got a view on todays bumper..? I want to go with welds..but jesus his have run flat lately?
anyone got a view on todays bumper..? I want to go with welds..but jesus his have run flat lately?
Gone against you Tony with Oldgrangewood & Leopardstown bumper I fancy First Figaro to beat the fav. Done a small double on the pair.
Kilbree Chief at Kelso is one I'm pinning my hopes on today & will chance identity Thief in the Ryanair Hurdle.
Mares chase at Doncaster you have to say Pepite Rose & Ma Filleule have the best form on offer but felt Kalane looked like she could be quite special lto so will be backing her for the win.
Best of luck today & hope you're well.
Kilbree Chief at Kelso is one I'm pinning my hopes on today & will chance identity Thief in the Ryanair Hurdle.
Mares chase at Doncaster you have to say Pepite Rose & Ma Filleule have the best form on offer but felt Kalane looked like she could be quite special lto so will be backing her for the win.
Best of luck today & hope you're well.
hi mate..been bad tbh, chest playing up again ,but im all over charlies mare,if she gets round I think shes be too good for these. im looking at welds..and the kids 7lb is always useful..but im worried over welds form?..
Hope the chest feels better soon. I like Finny & FF run against Champers is decent form in the context of this race.
Making lunch for kids so excuse short replies
Making lunch for kids so excuse short replies
no probs mate..just text the fat man..hes on holiday again? cruise this time?
It'll take awhile before either of them recover after that battle..
ted says cooper should have 'cut the snot of Ruby on the turn' - not sure he had the clearance at any stage though - both will be shagged for a while after that though
3 2nds and a faller, Good to see my form is consistent
Best go have a single on Oldgrangewood and a bigger place bet.
Best go have a single on Oldgrangewood and a bigger place bet.
Top stuff dj great analysis
Keep those e/w no hopers coming gobber ive never place layed so many in my life its uncanny
Keep those e/w no hopers coming gobber ive never place layed so many in my life its uncanny
Different class dj, flagging both at top price to boot
Serious question, has the Gobber ever flagged up a winner on here?
Think Lester was just having his first ride in Great Britain the last time he flagged one up
Boooooooommm!!!!!!!!
Well done DJ.
Gobshee, you really are some tool!
Well done DJ.
Gobshee, you really are some tool!
Well done,couple of winners,always better than a loser.
Tough race for Nicholls C,take awhile for a few to recover from the last couple of days,think he will be alright though. The green'n gold had a royaler overall with the handicaps.
Tough race for Nicholls C,take awhile for a few to recover from the last couple of days,think he will be alright though. The green'n gold had a royaler overall with the handicaps.
they did indeed PA but still a long way behind Giggy as regards quality stock, No top chaser or hurdler .they must really enjoy short price favs getting beaten it pays the wages .
I think the ride Cooper gave Identity Thief could be the final straw.
I hate picking on jockeys but he did everything wrong there,he challenged too far out,did it on a bend and then failed to rail.
It was man against boy.
I hate picking on jockeys but he did everything wrong there,he challenged too far out,did it on a bend and then failed to rail.
It was man against boy.
what about his pace judgement on Road to Respect and Alpha Des , he went far to quickly on both and Don Cossack was pure terrible.
Heskin not much better
Ruby Barry Paul and Davy don't need to worry about anything with these clowns
Also why has AP o B not employed some body better than Fogarty , hes second rate as best. Ap Crowe is better ffs
Heskin not much better
Ruby Barry Paul and Davy don't need to worry about anything with these clowns
Also why has AP o B not employed some body better than Fogarty , hes second rate as best. Ap Crowe is better ffs
Something else out of Giggy,what a way they have come this season, Between the Dons,Tell Me More and Death Duty(2019+) they could be having a few gold cups for a while,always their plan but it is clicking,fair play.
They(McManus) done them races there so well,differents things and likewise much prefer the giggy way but a bit of admiration there form me though don't necessary agree with the means.
They(McManus) done them races there so well,differents things and likewise much prefer the giggy way but a bit of admiration there form me though don't necessary agree with the means.
I thought a lot of Coopers celebration on Don Poli was relief, he wants to ride well for a while.
I would fully agree with the sentiments expressed about Cooper's ride on Identity Thief,how did he challenge a real genuine battler so far out on a horse that hasn't always loved a battle,then not to take the rail and let Ruby bully him out of it was inexcusable. Having said that I think NC would always out battle IT and won by an extending 2 lengths.
Anyone that thinks Cooper is riding well and points to grade one victories on Don Poli and No more heroes is away with the birds. He gave tombstone a howler and got everything wrong on Don Cossack. Noticeable that MOL stated that things just didn't go Brian's way at Kempton, track put forward as an excuse.
How anyone can admire how the likes of whatsforuwontgobyu is campaigned is beyond me?
How can his hurdle runs at Listowel and Punchestown be explained?
Over the same trip,in similar ground and off similar marks (2 lbs lower),no change in head gear etc but yet this horse (whom we all knew had plenty of ability) runs 4 stone superior to his last 2 runs in the same conditions.
Anyone that thinks Cooper is riding well and points to grade one victories on Don Poli and No more heroes is away with the birds. He gave tombstone a howler and got everything wrong on Don Cossack. Noticeable that MOL stated that things just didn't go Brian's way at Kempton, track put forward as an excuse.
How anyone can admire how the likes of whatsforuwontgobyu is campaigned is beyond me?
How can his hurdle runs at Listowel and Punchestown be explained?
Over the same trip,in similar ground and off similar marks (2 lbs lower),no change in head gear etc but yet this horse (whom we all knew had plenty of ability) runs 4 stone superior to his last 2 runs in the same conditions.
And what about it if i am?
I won't give a shiite about paying 30E to see a few of them horses anyway.
I won't give a shiite about paying 30E to see a few of them horses anyway.
Track put forward as an excuse by Cooper but the boss clearly stated what he also thought played a part at Kempton
OLeary stated after Don Poli that Cooper needed that bearing in mind the last few days,you know he is under pressure and its telling.
If the handicapper had any brains he should handicap Martins horses out of it.
The wrong money landed on Kinnity Castle and they were rewarded with a no show.
If the handicapper had any brains he should handicap Martins horses out of it.
The wrong money landed on Kinnity Castle and they were rewarded with a no show.
I try not to Slickster.
Rather than name the one really bad one,the rise in trip for Minella Foru and the wholesale gamble on Copy That amongst just two, i'd stand by my guns there.
Rather than name the one really bad one,the rise in trip for Minella Foru and the wholesale gamble on Copy That amongst just two, i'd stand by my guns there.
Said it before wildman, h'capper needs to give Martin's horses a rating, and then lob on 20lbs to stop what's going on. How this character is allowed a licence to "train" racehorses is beyond me.
HERE YOU GO BOYOS...
2.30 Ryanair Hurdle Leopardstown Thursday 29th Dec 2016
It's Nichols Canyon 4/6 vs Petit Mouchoir 2/1...or RUBY vs COOPER doing battle AGAIN in 2016 !b]
RUBY in an earlier interview with Brian Gleeson was already looking forward to it.
REMEMBER....
MayoMan • December 29, 2015 2:40 PM GMT
ted says cooper should have 'cut the snot of Ruby on the turn' - not sure he had the clearance at any stage though - both will be shagged for a while after that though.
wildmanfromborneo • December 31, 2015 12:00 AM GMT
I think the ride Cooper gave Identity Thief could be the final straw. I hate picking on jockeys but he did everything wrong there, he challenged too far out, did it on a bend and then failed to rail. It was man against boy.
Expect Ruby to be victorious earlier - [b]Augusta Kate at 1.20 but hard to see him beat Geraghty (Briar Hill vs Coney Island at 1.55.
2.30 Ryanair Hurdle Leopardstown Thursday 29th Dec 2016
It's Nichols Canyon 4/6 vs Petit Mouchoir 2/1...or RUBY vs COOPER doing battle AGAIN in 2016 !b]
RUBY in an earlier interview with Brian Gleeson was already looking forward to it.
REMEMBER....
MayoMan • December 29, 2015 2:40 PM GMT
ted says cooper should have 'cut the snot of Ruby on the turn' - not sure he had the clearance at any stage though - both will be shagged for a while after that though.
wildmanfromborneo • December 31, 2015 12:00 AM GMT
I think the ride Cooper gave Identity Thief could be the final straw. I hate picking on jockeys but he did everything wrong there, he challenged too far out, did it on a bend and then failed to rail. It was man against boy.
Expect Ruby to be victorious earlier - [b]Augusta Kate at 1.20 but hard to see him beat Geraghty (Briar Hill vs Coney Island at 1.55.
Make that LET'S DANCE (instead of Augusta Kate) + Battleford, Nichols Canyon & Buren Life.
In Doncaster....2.05 KALANE 3/1 & the 3.10 Willoughby Hedge 6/1.
In Doncaster....2.05 KALANE 3/1 & the 3.10 Willoughby Hedge 6/1.
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