Bob Geldof Found Out At Last

Good morning, Borneo, when I saw the thread title I figured you would be working me into the dialogue. #obsessed

Bono is quite different to Geldof, it's a long time since he has directly asked anyone for their money.  His choice of causes is both clever and effective, his learnedness on the issues at hand is first rate and he has amazing access around the world.  Its hard to put a price on what he does for deserving causes with his free time; it's an enormous sacrafice.  As regards his tax status he is 20% of a coropration with a global income and even if he wanted to be anything other than tax efficient, it would be hard to convince the other 80%.  As it is, he does pay plenty of tax in Ireland and as he also chooses to live in Ireland for part of the year, spends a great deal of money here too.

He reference the gambler in his latest album, he may even have you in mind;

"Every Breaking Wave"

Every breaking wave on the shore
Tells the next one "there'll be one more"
And every gambler knows that to lose
Is what you're really there for

I think your harsh on bono Wildman?..Don't know enough about SIR bob..to pass judgement only to say hes suffered all parents nightmares your child going b4 you!

I have found something I agree 100% with Wild man on, I can't stand either of them, yes losing his child is terrible though I agree but 2 me they are both 2 attention seeking bellends. Never knew Geldof was from Glenegeary though

The lines you quote are poorly written and unoriginal.

Its terrible when you find yourself quoting Gilbert OSullivan but he put it better in Nothing Rhymed,he also managed to show concern for starving people before Geldof made it fashionable..

I wouldn't expect you to be down with the hip new material.

Bono hip dear oh dear.

Only someone educated in the fifties would think that.

Yeah, imagine, Apple paying U2 in excess of a 100 mill for their Album to give as a present to their customers.  Now, I don't know abut you, but I would have Apple down as a fairly hip outfit.

That was just a marketing ploy.

Go on believing Bono is hip.
The nearest thing he will get to that is when getting a hip replacement naturally is some private hospital.

Apple wouldn't link their brand with an unhip brand, now would they, old sport?

Whats wrong with going to a private hospital?

Nothing wrong at all but Bono is preaching equality all the time.

He is like all the other hypocrites roaring about equality when it comes to themselves it all goes out the window.

Gerry Adams takes it a step further goes to an American private hospital for an operation and gets someone else to pick up the tab.
Vincent Browne a former press mogul is likewise always bleating about equality but none of this waiting are hanging around public wards for him.

Similarly the British Labour MPs who extolled the virtue of public education nearly all send their children to private schools.

Nothing wrong at all but Bono is preaching equality all the time.

He is like all the other hypocrites roaring about equality when it comes to themselves it all goes out the window.

Gerry Adams takes it a step further goes to an American private hospital for an operation and gets someone else to pick up the tab.
Vincent Browne a former press mogul is likewise always bleating about equality but none of this waiting are hanging around public wards for him.

Similarly the British Labour MPs who extolled the virtue of public education nearly all send their children to private schools.

I suppose you would perfer if Bono kept his money and got his hip done publicly, thus putting more pressure on the public system!

Either way, he can't win.

Not at all just stop preaching about equality,stop telling others to do what you are not prepared to do yourself.

If a family is prudent and chooses to spend their money on their children's education they should be praised not pilloried.

Similarly if they choose to spend their money on private health cover they should be praised not pilloried.

This is the Irish SPORTS FORUM......Move over to Chit Chat Forum folks, ty.

I haven't noticed anyone pillorying people for spending their money on education and health?

It's hard to know what it is Bono is asking you to do that he isn't prepared to do himself.  His sacrafices for good causes are beyond extraordinary.

I suspect if Bono was on an airplane with a bunch of African kids and the Oxygen masks came down, you would be attacking him for putting his own mask on first.

Bad analogy but if he was on a shipwreck he would be Ismay like in his charge to get in the lifeboat.

The man has made no sacrifices,he has urged others to make sacrifices,he has demanded Irish taxes be diverted to his causes whilst hypocritically dodging tax in his own country.

A firm believer in the maxim only the little people should pay tax.

Nothing is ever as simple as it seems. Yes he did go to Blackrock but his mother died when he was young and his early life was far from ideal. Boomtown Rats had to live on their wits before they made it. He didn't grow up in poverty, but it was no picnic either.

Geldof claimed he grew up in poverty and was poorly educated,both untrue.

The fact his mother died young is sad but not relevant to his comments.

He lived in one of the wealthiest areas in Dublin and was educated in one of its most exclusive schools,he hadn't a good word for his family,his school or his country for years.

With Wildman having a go at Bono and Sir Bob and Paulie having a Dig at Katie Taylor it seems that theres a few more out there that dont like Mondays.

frank...

Its ridiculous to say Bono has made no sacrafices; the time he has invested in effectively pushing worthwhile agendas worldwide is enormous.  He also gives generously to good causes in Ireland and worldwide.

He urges governments worldwide, not only to give, as you claim , but more to eliminate debt and promote trade. 

His tax effectiveness is a stick people use to beat him with.  He would have to leave the band if he wished to pay taxes in Ireland because there is no way the other 80% of the band (corporation) would agree to choose to pay taxes in Ireland based on their worldwide income.  It might be different if the income was generated in Ireland or they wanted to reside permanently in Ireland. Given a choice between the boglands surrunding Birr and the sun-kissed French Riviera...well....

I personally would not want him to give up all his wealth and dress in sackcloth and ashes.  He is far more effective as a globe trotting rock star in sunglasses, opening influential doors and pushing agendas.  If there is a finer Irishman, I have yet to meet him.

Amazed at the knowledge on the forum re these ( Irish OK ) pop stars , including lyrics .  Re these 2 singers , I only know one line from each as a hit line .  But I guess hit songs have changed a lot from when we knew all the words of the songs .

They are well regarded world wise I suspect , dont know enough about either though to comment on their contribution to society ( Irish or worldwise ) .

Guess its a slow Monday though .

The heart is a bloom
Shoots up through the stony ground
There's no room
No space to rent in this town

You're out of luck
And the reason that you had to care
The traffic is stuck
And you're not movin' anywhere



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Sweet the sin
Bitter the taste in my mouth
I see seven towers
But I only see one way out

You gotta cry without weeping
Talk without speaking
Scream without raising your voice

You know I took the poison
From the poison stream
Then I floated out of here
Singing, ha, la, la, la, de day



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Haven't seen you in quite a while
I was down the hold just passing time
Last time we met was a low-lit room
We were as close together as a bride and groom
We ate the food, we drank a wine
Everybody having a good time, except you
You were talking about the end of the world

I took the money, I spiked your drink
You miss too much these days if you stop to think
You lead me on with those innocent eyes
You know I love the element of surprise
In the garden I was playing the tart
I kissed your lips and broke your heart, you
You were acting like it was the end of the world

In my dream I was drowning my sorrows
But my sorrows, they learned to swim
Surrounding me, going down on me
Spilling over the brim
Waves of regret and waves of joy
I reached out for the one, I tried to destroy you
You said you'd wait to the end of the world



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What are your fav 02  Lyrics; Wildman

Interesting lyrics , have to admit I have no idea what they sound like sung .

A lot of the more modern music is a bit like blank verse to me . I like tunes you can hum or sing in the shower ( that includes liturgical music --How great thou art or the odd Ave  etc ) .

Everyone to their own I reckon .

Kelly, i think William Shakespeare said it best ...“If music be the food of love, play on, ..  i have all ready pick the music for my funeral.

Does Bono ever open the doors of The Clarence and let the local homeless use any un-rented rooms ?,
Just wondering if this arms around the world attitude spreads to the grass roots of his hometown and it's people or is that not newsworthy enough to interest him.

Very well said gut

Yeah, like why doesn't he let the homeless move into his gaff in Killiney when he is away?  Let a few sleep in the Maserati.

Then and only then would he be entitled to work for good causes.  Dressed up in sackcloth and ashes like any well meaning credible charitable person.

Geldof or should I say sir,a fcking uncle tom  and bono are old farts.the youth of  Ireland have no interest in their Shiite.

Propper order imvho.

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Does Bono ever open the doors of The Clarence and let the local homeless use any un-rented rooms ?,
Just wondering if this arms around the world attitude spreads to the grass roots of his hometown and it's people or is that not newsworthy enough to interest him.

NAIL ON HEAD GUT........and anyone that cant see this is either a west brit or totally off their rocker

Clearly trolling Ozzy as I don't believe you are naive enough to fall for celebrity endorsed do gooders and would actually spend time telling the forum they are great without having a laugh to yourself every time you hit the enter key.
Anyway when they(BG & The Fly) attended the G8 summit 2005 and praised Tony Blair for the Iraq war they lost any credibility in my eyes as saviors of anything, Supporting any war is a black mark from me when it's driven by greed and control but he'll sleep soundly with 1 less believer.
Good evening and enjoy your false prophets.

Adam Clayton lives here and pays his taxes , so you 80% is slightly off Norman ...

The youth of Ireland are turning to SF,they believe in the common good,they believe in the Rebublic!

He is not a permanent resident for tax purposes, Wonks.  And as regards how he is renumerated by U2, you can bet your bottom dollar it is in a tax efficient manner; i.e by way of a loan to a corporation in his name registered god knows where, or whatever is currently in vogue.

Stick to spotting whirlybirds, mate.

You no nothing about the man , end of ...

I know he is a neighbour of yours. Do you cut his grass?

He should never have divulged his tax practices to his gardner imo.

Was he not quoted to complain that western corporations in Africa were wrong to use tax evasion techniques ?,
Bit hypocritical if he did don't you think Ozzy or is it reasonable to adopt a "Do as I say not as I do" philosophy and still remain a credible spokesperson ?

Stick up the so-called quote, gut feelig , and will be happy to discuss it.  Am not aware of it.

http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1026589.shtml

The quote is...."All those big companies don’t pay taxes in Africa. That is just not acceptable,” he said. “People need to stand on that issue. Frankly, the whole taxation system around the world is really broken because business gone global but our taxation system is still country-based and then countries compete.”

ok, I agree, you can see that as hypocritical.

The fact remains though, he doesn't dictate where U2 pays their tax and you can see by the quote above that he has problems with aspects of it.  Furthermore, unlike some Companies who would have large projects in specific African countries, U2 do not derive significant income from Africa.

I'd say he has no problem at all with the tax schemes he sought out or at least his accounts we're asked to seek once Ireland set a cap on performers incomes, To suggest he doesn't dictate to his management team on finding him the best possible place to accumulate wealth is as well you know wrong but It was a valiant attempt to save him.
Anyhow there's more to the man than sunglasses and some good tunes, He'll always divide opinion that's for certain.
Be good Ozzy and see you another day

accountants*
Excuse typo was eating my dinner.

You accept that he has 20% shares in the Company and therefore 20% of the say where the Company pays tax?

Of course he is but 1/5th of the wheel but Larry Mullen summed it up best by saying "only in the classic Greek sense that a democracy is in the hands of those in power. If you are in a band with someone as loud, talkative, argumentative and persuasive as Bono, things can be kind of difficult for the rest of us.” when talking of the bands move to Live nation management last year.
His voice and weight of persona counts for a lot in all "Joint" decisions it seems.

agreed, on several creative matters, but when it comes to putting their hands in their pockets its a different matter.  I cant see Larry not having his tuppence worth on that!

I'd agree on that much despite his quote which paints a different picture (Cheap shot to use it against you but was enjoying myself and saw no harm in it ),
When it comes to money even mice can sound like men in my experience, Getting daggers from missus so must turn this laptop off, Once again be good Ozzy, It's been fun.

I think he probably tripped himself up on the remark about Companies not paying Tax in Africa, and regrets it as it does leave himself open to charges of hypocrisy.  It certainly isn't a stance he has laboured beyond that one isolated remark.

I can't believe the news today
Oh,I can't close my eyes
And make it go away
How long
How long we must sing this song
How long,how long
Cause tonight,we can be as one
Tonight

Sentimental old guff,from patroniseing geezzers where there is no effect on them in their safe little homes and what's worse,they hijacked this for commercial purposes,for money!

Armored cars and tanks and guns
Came to take away our sons
But every man must stand
Behind the men behind the wire

Realitity!!!!!!!!!!

Feck me,it does sound a load of patronising old tosh now,the poor Bono almost wounded and blind making his way to the bank on the back of it.

don't like him myself, patronizing preacher sir bob