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21 Nov 14 23:37
Date Joined: 13 Oct 10
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this is a mare who I like,won well lto @fairyhouse (i backed her)ive been waiting for her to run and as she was entered last week @Cheltenham thought we would see her there..but the crawfords run here..i have a slight worry with the form of the yard.they have only had one winner in the last few weeks!.she loves it heavy so the more rain the better in a decent mares bumper,
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Report p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y November 22, 2014 8:04 AM GMT
how can you nap it if their are no prices?? would it still be your nap if it was 4s on?
Report Bigwillystyle November 22, 2014 8:45 AM GMT
Completely agree, price is everything! Tony doesn't nap them unless they are short
Report tony57 November 22, 2014 9:34 AM GMT
nonsense..i don't know the price..but im sure it,ll be about 11/4..if all stand there ground..i wont be about so I put it up eary for only putting up shorties bigwilly..ive put up plenty more winners than you..or than most on here..the majority just throw mud at peoples opinions..bigwilly is forever saying that's got no chance then been shown up when it wins...and not being seen on the forum for days after..your entitled to opinion..
Report Distant View November 22, 2014 12:35 PM GMT
Probably the most talked about mare outside of Closutton over past few months.

Unless they really come for Lyrical Theatre, this could easily be around 6/4.

Hopefully they do come for Mullins runner.
Report paulie wallnuts November 22, 2014 12:45 PM GMT
Lyrical Theatre will wipe her arrse with that thing of Crawfords.....they are no danger in any race.....and don't worry about it being less than 11/ will be all of that and the rest.....
Report tony57 November 22, 2014 1:16 PM GMT
I hope your right paulie about the price...and good to see you giving your opinion..
Report tony57 November 22, 2014 9:28 PM GMT
2/1 priced up with pp..I think it,ll be bigger come the morning so I,ll wait..
Report timberman November 22, 2014 9:37 PM GMT
I see an old favourite of this forum Milsean in the first, Any word from the great one KL?
Report workrider November 22, 2014 11:02 PM GMT
if i am having a bet tomorrow and can ger 5/2 or better minella fouru w/o vautor i'd take it , not off a yard last day , question is will they want him that close to the fav to warrant a bet ? ...
Report The Gotchee November 22, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
I don't back in bumpers and I certainly don't back unraced runners in bumpers but if my informant is correct then Bonny Kate is going to run well.
Having perused her pedigree and seeing that Nina has deserted a previous winner it must be obvious that Bonny Kate has a serious chance in the mares bumper. You have to ask yourself why would Nina give up the ride on a previous bumper winner to ride the unraced Bonny Kate. She must think Bonny Kate is significantly better than Josephine Marcus. Bonny Kate is an each way good thing for me. Can Lyrical Theater give her  10 lbs, I doubt it.
The other one I like at a working man's price is  Akorakor @ around 12/1. His best days are going to be over fences but he could win a nice race over hurdles and tomorrow could be the day.
Report koikeeper November 23, 2014 8:48 AM GMT
I dont think she has deserted a winner in favour of Bonny kate on a "best horse" thing, more likely that she rides all  Patricia Hunts bumpers as Paul Carberry  does her jumpers..

Maybe totally wrong though, GL
Report Bigwillystyle November 23, 2014 9:11 AM GMT
Hartys horse is a smasher alright wonks but hard to tell what this shower will ever do..
Report Bigwillystyle November 23, 2014 9:13 AM GMT
Martello Tower lay of the day.  Another stable whose horses regress with runs!
Report workrider November 23, 2014 10:18 AM GMT
thats the problem alright willie , thats how they stay ahead i suppose ..
Report workrider November 23, 2014 10:44 AM GMT
before leaving had a little nibble on rough justice @ 26/1 and place 5.2..
Report The Gotchee November 23, 2014 11:20 AM GMT
I think Rye Martini is very well handicapped and at 33/1 seems to be overpriced to me.
Report newapproach November 23, 2014 12:19 PM GMT
2 that I like today are:

Zigger Zagger 1.25 7/1

Hazariban 2.55 11/1
Report callitasucit November 23, 2014 1:37 PM GMT
Clarcam is a superb bet at 7-2 in WH without Vautour. Fit from a run over hurdles, he has reportedly schooled very well both before and after that seasonal debut. He doesnt have many realistic challengers here, and 7-2 looks way out.
Report Ozymandius November 23, 2014 2:03 PM GMT
generous of WHill, wasn't it?

Well done, callit, you are having a great weekend!
Report frankalsoran60 November 23, 2014 2:05 PM GMT
On the ball CALLIT,  Vautour looks the part, big days ahead
Report never give up November 23, 2014 2:14 PM GMT
225 my murphy w/p
Report bluenose7 November 23, 2014 2:21 PM GMT
2.25: Bose Ikard.

5 Places on Sportsbook.

G/L.  Wink
Report frankalsoran60 November 23, 2014 2:41 PM GMT
AT THE RACES  posted on Saturday: With a maximum field set to line up, tomorrow’s Ladbrokes Troytown Chase at Navan has a wide-open look to it but one horse who stands out as too big a price at 20/1 is BALBRIGGAN, and Gordon Elliott’s grey is put forward each-way with the five places concession. The King’s Theatre gelding has been in great form since joining his current yard earlier this year, winning three of his five completed starts, but it is the form of his sole defeat that really points to his chance in the Proudstown Park highlight. On that occasion he took a creditable third behind The Young Master at Cheltenham’s first meeting of the season, his chance compromised by a crucial blunder four out, and of course the winner went on to bolt up off a 9lb higher mark at Wincanton before being disqualified as he was ineligible. The runner-up Charingworth also did his bit by going one better in the curtain-raiser at last week’s Open fixture, all of which makes Balbriggan appear potentially well-treated off a 4lb lower Irish mark – and champion conditional Kevin Sexton’s 3lb claim is an added bonus. The pick of his efforts have admittedly come on a sounder surface than he will encounter this time but his latest success in a Sedgefield novice hurdle was achieved in soft going, and at the price it looks a risk worth taking.  well done Gary
Report punchestown November 23, 2014 3:32 PM GMT
Don't think it would have won but young Crawford gave up the outside to nobody there,about 8 horses wide just before turning in,winner looks good considering concession of weight to all bar runner up.
Report callitasucit November 23, 2014 3:46 PM GMT
I couldn't believe it when I put up Oddschecker Oz.

I had tried a different firm earlier, hoping to be offered 6-4, but they had no market. The same as in the golf, when the odds compilers don't have a proper betfair market to guide them, they can quite frequently show how utterly clueless a lot of them are. Thankfully Clarcam done the rest.
Report The Gotchee November 23, 2014 7:15 PM GMT
Well done callit. 7/2 manna from heaven
Report snap crackle and pop November 23, 2014 7:19 PM GMT
Tnx Gobshee was having a middling sort of day until de bumper came along and place laid Bonny Kate, nice one! Laugh
Report MCKENNA November 23, 2014 7:48 PM GMT
As mentioned above, some pick by Gary yesterday with Balrbiggan, well done to that man. Am sure his part owner, Willie McKay, is the soccer agent who also owns Goal, also with G Elliott.  I'd say Gary has the inside track with Elliott, being part of the syndicate that has Bayan with him. Fair play.
Report MCKENNA November 23, 2014 7:49 PM GMT
* Balbriggan
Report pa lapsy November 23, 2014 7:59 PM GMT
Tis only a little bit back after you laid the Gotchees The Doorman, Snap,long way to go,very poor from ya.
Think there was a bit of doubt with Clarcam handling the ground,he did it well, was very near evens to be placed most of the morning which was very big in such a skewed market.Great spot with the 7/2,true price was nearer 6/4 i'd imagine.
Vautour was very very good and looks as if he only has to stand up in future,jumped well for 1st time. Lyrical Theatre isn't very big but was impressive,2nd fav was very keen early ,needs to be covered up and switched off, probably went wide for the better ground but then had no cover.Milsean had to work,possibly not that good and that Limerick bumper was flattering.
Enjoyable racing there today.
Report workrider November 23, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
good synopsis pa ,clarcam was 9/4 in the w/o market on course , my fancy mineela foru was 3/1 w/o and was again given an easy imo ,reason i backed it was jp arrived in his helicoptor , also backed his runner trained by hourigan , neither of them at the races ...plenty of excuses lined up now before they take off the lead boots...
Report frank60 November 23, 2014 11:35 PM GMT
UN DE SCEAUX is set to be unleashed over fences at Thurles on Thursday, with Willie Mullins bemoaning the lack of opportunities for his new recruits to chasing.

Hot on the heels of Vautour’s flawless chasing debut at Navan on Sunday, Un De Sceaux will run in the 2m2f beginners’ chase on Thursday, but Ireland’s champion trainer feels there are not sufficient oppor­tunities in such races for classier hurdlers.

“Un De Sceaux is entered at Thurles on Thursday and my plan at the moment is to run him there,” Mullins said.

“That’s over two miles two furlongs, so it’s an extra two furlongs, but there’s very little racing between now and Christ­mas, so it’s a case of getting him out whenever we can.”

On the beginners’ chase schedule in Ireland, Mullins said: “We don’t have the same opportunities as the trainers in England, who can choose from different tracks and distances. In Ireland, we just have to go with whatever comes up in front of us.

“A lot of the beginners’ chases at this time of year are confined to horses rated 109 or lower over hurdles. At a time of the year when racing is very sparse, I find oppor­tunities for trainers are being cut down.
Report slickster November 24, 2014 1:04 AM GMT
Wonks.... "reason i backed it was jp arrived in his HELICOPTER". I really have no answer for this.
Report wildmanfromborneo November 24, 2014 8:19 AM GMT
Slickster you are better off totting  up Peter OHehirs naps than tracking Workrider.

You make the common error of jumping in without reading his other comments,he clearly states he fancied Minella Foru,he was worried about effort so when he saw the bossman arrive he thought it would be a going day.

Not surprised you have no answer as you seem in a permanent state of bewilderment.
Report workrider November 24, 2014 9:30 AM GMT
wildmanfromborneo , poor thickster wouldn't see a bus coming never mind a helicoptor , strange jp using up one of his tax free days for nothing don't you think , he missed his winner as well , so when the big bird arrived i just added 2 and 2 together and ended up with egg on my face ...
Report Ballhopper November 24, 2014 1:48 PM GMT
Not being wise after the event guys - I backed her too! - but although she has won on heavy it is NOT her preferred ground, indeed the Crawfords were pleasantly surprised that she handled it so well the first time.
Report paulie wallnuts November 24, 2014 1:53 PM GMT
The crawfords is a  bang average outfit.....the mare ran ok considering it was 10 wide and couldn't be settled by an awful jockey....
Report tony57 November 24, 2014 2:44 PM GMT
your right about the jockey and ride..but the winner was too good anyway on the day paulie..
Report Catch Me ifyoucan December 15, 2019 11:22 AM GMT
workrider • November 23, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
good synopsis pa ,clarcam was 9/4 in the w/o market on course , my fancy mineela foru was 3/1 w/o and was again given an easy imo ,reason i backed it was jp arrived in his helicoptor , also backed his runner trained by hourigan , neither of them at the races ...plenty of excuses lined up now before they take off the lead boots...

By slickster on 24 Nov 14 01:04
Wonks.... "reason i backed it was jp arrived in his HELICOPTER". I really have no answer for this.

Catch Me ifyoucan • December 2, 2018 8:04 AM GMT
Norn, Your buddy will be watching out for ‘La Rich’ helicopters Laugh

TODAY it's Soft / Soft to heavy on the chase course..... another day for watching da Helicopter (Andy Dufresne in the Novice Hdle at 12) followed by Mark Walsh on Top Moon / Fairly Legal / Minella Till Dawn
Report Catch Me ifyoucan December 15, 2019 11:23 AM GMT
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