Can anybody give the lend of an England jersey?

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Thanks Premier. But I was hoping to get it before I go in to watch the match in The Celt tonight.

i have ordered one no problem cheering for our near neighbours

Greece backed at 5.8

Irish officially love Engerland since the baked bean visited. Romanians now most hated breed due to beggar activity.

I think I might put the jersey purchase on hold for a while. Although, in a pinch, I reckon I might as well just use my Liverpool shirt!

It was an enjoyable match to watch - just a pity that England seemed to run out of puff and ideas and couldn't manage to sneak a draw. The Italians played better than I expected. If they keep up to that level they'll be there at the end. Pirlo!

But my bet still lost! I need a result today or else funds will be diminshing rapidly.

Switzerland to win @ 2.5
Honduras to do a Costa Rica over France @ 16.0 if I can get it (but I'll take 14.0 or 15.0 if they don't drift)
Bosnia @ 12.0 if they continue to drift

The Costa Rican shirt was the right one yesterday in regards your theme.
England very average,Rooney was woeful, the gamble highlighted on another thread on them was crazy.
Took the Swiss on myself as Ecuador draws with the Dutch,England and Argentina are decent enough,the Swiss also have good results lately.
Seems to me France have turned a new leaf and playing well lately,can,t go against Argentina, so an 11/4 ht/ft db to try and help me own diminishing funds,gl.

Certainly, the two Euro-South American clashes to date have gone the way of the locals, but the Swiss in particular should be strong enough to get a result. Good luck with your bets Pa

Doubled Argentina and France. Also backed Higuain e.w at 25s for top goal scorer, so hopefully he bags a couple tonight.

Some day of sport, the hurling should be a cracker. Doubled Cork with Monaghan, so hoping they can exact revenge for their defeat in last years All Ireland.

I'm with you on the hurling Callit. Although the whole GAA apparatus is out to stop us ... and poor Anthony Nash especially!

Nice result on your gaa double Callit. Well done

Cheers. Wasn't a great game, pretty scrappy. Stop start with fouls n frees.

Hopefully Kaymer puts the golf to bed early, so can flick to the Argie match a bit. Lets hope Messi brings his brilliant best to the table. The Brazilians can see what real class is......Neymar is but a poor apprentice to the Great One.

I didn't think I'd be having a bet when I looked at the odds for Portugal v Germany last evening but will back the Portuguese if they drift out to 4.4 again - I mean did nobody watch the Champions League semifinal? HE beat Bayern single-handed! Surely a gammy knee won't blunt HIS genius?

I'm also laying Nigeria although it's hard to assess the Iranian form - they hardly ever play any decent teams - but then the Nigerians don't seem to be any great shakes either.

Hello Loligo bit better for us on yesterdays games and good stuff from Callit as well.
The German game should be a good one,in terms of a bet myself leaving it go as thought Germany recent results aren,t great while Portugal are playing well,can see why you want to be with Portugal at them odds,hate going against the Jerries myself though.
The US match looks another tough call,both teams beat S.Korea,recent wins for the States against the Nigerians and Turks would sway me slightly towards them at the odds but in all probability will catch up on some needed beauty sleep.
Only bet for me today is the Nigerians at 10/11,agree with your thoughts Loligo but while draws to the Scots and Greeks doesn,t read too well these days could well be enough on what Iran has showed recently. GL.

Would it be fair to assume that loligi likes backing the outsiders in these world cup games??

Hello Pa

Like you say none of the four teams in the later matches today have done anything recently that would inspire you. But I too might have a little punt on the US if their odds get out to the 3.5 or 3.6 range. And now it looks like I'll be watching Germany/Portugal as a neutral cos those high prices seem to be long gone.

Hello CR

Well. I'm not afraid of backing 10/1 shots but unfortunately so far my picks have mostly played like 20/1 and 30/1 shots!

I've worked out some crude odds on a spreadsheet and my theory was that there'd be good value in the first round of games because there's so little direct form between the teams - that hasn't worked out too well so far.

My hypothesis for the second round of group games is that the market will overreact to the early results and I'll pick up a couple of good bets - so as you can see I'm a hopeless optimist in spite of years of bitter experience!

portugal 4-1 germany

i agree with all that loligo,if fairness you have been a bit unlucky with some of your selections,
at the end of the day its all about value so couldn't argue with any of your bets,Best of luck

Laid Germany here, very very short in my opionion. Also had small bet on Portugal. Nowhere near the gulf that the market suggests between these two sides.

Never got the odds I wanted yesterday about Portugal (relief) or the USA (despair). Although Ghana should really have won the late match - and might of done if that No. 7 Atsu had held back on the wild shots and worked the ball more around the box. But all that's soon forgotten as the carnival rolls on today. Once again I'll be mostly backing the outsiders - a pattern which indicates that my odds aren't that all reliable but I'll persist anyway.

Like Iran yesterday, Algeria's form is hard to assess as they seem to mostly play weak African opposition, so I'll be laying Belgium as I can't back the Algerians with any confidence.

I make Korea 1/1 to beat the Russians so any odds above 5.0 are super value.

And maybe Mexico will get a more neutral referee than Croatia did - I'm hoping Bahattin Duran is more Mariachi than Samba. We'll get a better idea of how good Brazil really are anyway.

Bit of hard lines with Algeria/Belgium Loligo, the Brazilians again looked very average,don,,t think any team should be too scared with playing them.
Good luck with the Koreans, not a fan of Russia outside their own country myself.
Suppose the Germans and Dutch are the most impressive up to this point,i did(you will like this i think) a small bet on the Swiss outright(140) and to reach the final at 38,s,way i looked at it is they should surely get a result against Honduras if even they fail against France,hoping to get a bit of mileage anyway as think they are a bit overpriced.

Brazil again showed how ridiculously priced they are in the outright market. They are nowhere the standard of an average WC winning team.

Spain have work to do to qualify, but if they raise their game and win their two group games to qualify, I would fully expect them to beat Brazil in the last 16.

Spain won't qualify.
It will more than likely be Chile that meet Brazil and they should beat them,the same if they meet Holland.

Spain are set to ring the changes tonight against Chile, with both Xavi and Silva set to drop to the bench with Pedro and Koke to replace them (personally I would also drop Costa and play either Fabregas or Villa). I think the heavy defeat to Holland will be a wake-up call for the Spaniards and I reckon they will win tonight and go on to finish 2nd in Group B. They are more than capable of beating a very tentative and nervous Brazil in the Last 16 while there is nothing in their quarter to scare them after that (probably Colombia/Ivory Coast/England). They are worth a bet at 14/1 in the Outright market, although that could look silly at 10pm tonight if they fail to beat Chile.

I wasn't able to watch the Brazil-Mexico match so I can't really comment on their performance. There's no doubt that their odds are probably too short - I suspect it's partly due to having a host nation's advantage, which is a real factor but is something that I can't quantify. I'll be betting against them again in the tournament ... if I have any money left in the bank by then!

Toady I'm taking on the Spaniards again (backing Chile at 6.0 or greater) although I'll be amazed if they don't put in a better performance than they did against Holland.

Will also be backing Cameroon at about 6.0.

After the first round of matches I'm down €21.50 on 12 x €10 bets. Not quite carnage but will be heading there if I don't get a couple of decent results in the second tranche of group games.

the spain team arnt as bad as the holland result...david villa missed a sitter before half time to go 2 up.if he scored spain could have opened them up in the second half..fine margins etc

I would expect both Spain and Croatia to post comfortable victories tonight, and have doubled the two.

Havent been able to stop topping up on Spain in the outright market, backing at 15.5, 14s e.w and 12s e.w. Could be a painful night if they don't fire!! Also backed them at 2.06 to qualify.

I'd be a bit worried about Spain tonight, will be fascinating to see their selection.  If you want to back them in the Outright, 'Winner' do a refund if your team exits at the Group Stage.

^ actually 'Winner' offer not quite as stated...only a pesky fiver refund.

Chile one up, Spain are a complete mess. Big ask from here.

Adios Muchachos???!!!!!

Looks like it,had a few chances to score early and didn,,t take them,look in total disarray late on 2nd half and too much petulance from them.

Casillas and Alonso have been shocking again. Costa not much better.

BFred have Australia at 16s for the Spain game. They will go off about 4s! Spain will not giv a f*ck about it, Oz will love to win a game. Desire will count for a lot.

I hope you backed the Aussies Callit. You could of traded out for a nice profit already!

Spain will play the reserves vs Aus...prob do better that the first choice team.

You tried to warn us Ozy!!

Jaysus, I got that very wrong

Unlike previous major championships where I have looked forward to the demise of the English due to schadenfreude induced by the hype, smugness, wags, dentist chairs, tabloids, rule-brittania, and all the other general circus elements surrounding the team, this time I'd like to see them progressing deeper into the competition. So tonight's game will be fascinating. Uruguay probably aren't that good a team but they're certainly better than they showed against Costa Rica. I backed England the last day against Italy but by my odds say they're too short today so if the money comes for England again like it did in the first match I'll be backing Uruguay at 4.2 or higher.

Also backing the Ivory Coast - hopefully I might get matched at 4.4

Inevitably.

I got matched on my Ivory Coast bet but didn't get the price I wanted on the Uruguayans.

Backing the three outsiders again today. But not with much confidence. Can't see Costa Rica or Honduras doing much but maybe the Swiss will put in a better performance against the French.

English jerseys getting cheaper all the time Loligo,not inconceivable they will get through,but unlikely.
Not convinced with the Italians,England took the game to them for a lot of the last match,small lay on them at 1.6, and a little on Italy/Draw ht/ft at 20,s be my interest.
Having backed the Swiss outright,think and hoping a draw is on the cards,came back well late against the Ecudorians and a speculative France/Draw at 18,s be the way i hope it goes.
No interest in the late match. GL with your bets.

Agreed Pa, fancy Swiss to get something from today's game.

England have officially finished rock bottom....Boom!

what if there is a result in the Italy Uruguay game...and Ingerlud beat CR...they could be off the botttom then.

Nice result with your Uruguay bet last evening Pa. In terms of your outright Swiss bet I think you probably need them to win tonight otherwise it looks like they'll be facing Argentina in the round of 16. And if they can't beat the French it'd be hard to see them turning over the Argies.

I've backed the Swiss at 5.0 and it's not looking great right now!!!

I posted too soon. Now it's even worse!

Looking worse since you typed that Loligo,didn,t start too bad but uncharacteristic poor defending from them twice, brave or foolish laid France at 1.07 now.

Great chance there

Soft Peno saved,, in intensive care but the sheet isn,t over the head yet.

Have to go away now Loligo,making a holy show of myself

Unlucky Pa. Laying at 1.07 wasn't a bad idea with so much of the match left - and the Swiss missed a sitter too when it was still 2-0.

I know we've only seen them in one and a half matches so far and against questionable opposition but this French team under Deschamps don't look like the cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys that have turned up in recent tournaments.

oz it's england we're talking about here,my bet is a safe as a house in ballymun

Although it galls me to throw away money after getting back into profit with Costa Rica's win yesterday, today I will be laying Argentina at their very low odds and backing Ghana against Germany (hopefully I might get them at 13.0). The African teams have been very disappointing so far - maybe the Ghanaians can put in a decent performance?

WD with Costa Loligo, thought tomorrow may be a better day for the outsiders but very short the 1st two favs indeed,still whatever about the Germans expect Argentina to win by a few.
My interest for the day(or some of it anyway) is a treble Argentina ht/ft,Germany and Bosnia at 3/1,GL with yours.

I think Bosnia are a great bet tonight.

Me too.

Used to be Messi's no.1 fan.

NO. LONGER.

Now his 9567345264th fan

Never let money impede judgement loligo!!

Twas a quality finish.

You had the right idea Loligo, great performances for the 3 outsiders yesterday,hard to predict these matches for me anyway.

Bleeding badly after Bosnia debacle, Pa.  Bookies on top.

Yeah no certainties in this,twas a reality check. Only saw the 1st half of the Bosnian match and thought they played well enough to be ahead and not behind.
Overall in the whole competition with the possible exception of France so far every team look as they can be beat and the main protagonists are up to now a bit disappointing.
Maybe "Cuddles" can do something for ya?

It was only said a bit tongue in cheek WR, hope you had a good time in Cork.
Did Naoise 4.15G Ozy at 2/1,thought he won very well on Thurs and while got 5lb it looked comfortable, that,s my "best bet" today, know i,ve often said to meself could do with a winner but won,t want to make it worse for you either.

Backed  Naoise myself on Thurs , only winner I had on the night , think there's a little more petrol in the tank Pa , so it would not surprise me if he went in again...

Aye, I might turn to the reliable Cuddles in my hour of need.

He has advised backing a "real moose of a horse, and to be kind to him, he is a bit simple minded"(could almost be talking abut Wonks )

He has advised backing Snap Click to place in 3.15 at GP..I see PP are money back if your hoss finished 2nd or 3rd...might chance a win bet on him here at 8s.

Now  Kevin is , simple minded .....Whatever next , could be a case even of having the blowup wife's beard and balls removed if these don't place...

pa to be fair the french group is píss poor,they'll be found out when they come up against decent opposition

I agree with you CR. France have looked impressive so far but I rate them only average overall in the context of this tournament. I hope they are found out before we're found out!

Only one bet for me today - the Muricans, hopefully at 5.0 but will take 4.whatever.

Done Trixie, Portugal, Russia +1, Kilkenny -3.