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M.O' Neill would be my preference , if we cant get him i say BRING BACK MICK MC CARTHY....
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As many have said, will be a thankless job, talent not there and won't be for the foreseeable future, O Neill a shoe in but don't expect the style to change much from Trap if O Neill does get it.
Martin o'Neill is the only man for a job by a long way.
He brought a magic to Celtic that was lost for most part of a decade. He resigned from the club in 2005 after a glorious period for the club ended for O'Neill with two dramatic late goals for Motherwell to beat Celtic 2-1 on the last day of the season while Rangers won and unexpectedly took the title. The entire season o'Neill had been dealing with huge private pressures.
O'Neill has the second best winning record at Aston Villa in the last twenty years and more having being in charge for the most matches of any previous manager in that time. He resigned again this time because he wouldn't accept the sales of his best players.
O'Neill probably needed a few years off after Aston Villa but the experience he had at Sunderland would only have led to O'Neill hardening his resolve once more to prove to himself how good and still hungry a manager he is in this era.
He would be fresh from that break and if he is still of strong mind then this job would be the perfect step. A former GAA footballer and Northern Ireland footballer well respected and accepted by all communities in the same mold as many sportsmen from the North east of Ireland are.
An International manager needs a spark and a love for the country they are managing in order to create the type of magic it takes to get a small country like Ireland to the point of the latter stages in world cup finals. The people need to stop dividing opinions for the sake of it and actually stand United and support the cause.
Average and good players will always respond with that extra thirty per cent needed to a man that will breed the right results in the handful of huge games it takes to qualify. Once that is reality the Irish public will get what it is craving. The huge island party celebration that comes with victories against top nations on the biggest stage of world football.
4/7 The bookies are being generous
He brought a magic to Celtic that was lost for most part of a decade. He resigned from the club in 2005 after a glorious period for the club ended for O'Neill with two dramatic late goals for Motherwell to beat Celtic 2-1 on the last day of the season while Rangers won and unexpectedly took the title. The entire season o'Neill had been dealing with huge private pressures.
O'Neill has the second best winning record at Aston Villa in the last twenty years and more having being in charge for the most matches of any previous manager in that time. He resigned again this time because he wouldn't accept the sales of his best players.
O'Neill probably needed a few years off after Aston Villa but the experience he had at Sunderland would only have led to O'Neill hardening his resolve once more to prove to himself how good and still hungry a manager he is in this era.
He would be fresh from that break and if he is still of strong mind then this job would be the perfect step. A former GAA footballer and Northern Ireland footballer well respected and accepted by all communities in the same mold as many sportsmen from the North east of Ireland are.
An International manager needs a spark and a love for the country they are managing in order to create the type of magic it takes to get a small country like Ireland to the point of the latter stages in world cup finals. The people need to stop dividing opinions for the sake of it and actually stand United and support the cause.
Average and good players will always respond with that extra thirty per cent needed to a man that will breed the right results in the handful of huge games it takes to qualify. Once that is reality the Irish public will get what it is craving. The huge island party celebration that comes with victories against top nations on the biggest stage of world football.
4/7 The bookies are being generous
Thats him alright WILDMANFROMBORNEO ,we worked together for around 20yrs ....Loved the game , was great pals with P FLYNN , He and I made that call to W CARSON to book him for P Hughes horse for the Wokingham ...
one can readily argue that the calibre of player is not there at the moment and it does not matter who we appoint.
the goal is to qualify for the next finals tournament.
over the last 5 days I have dipped into live footage of approx 15 games and the standout feature for me, is that outside of a few like spain and germany, the teams in europe you would rank maybe 7 to 27, there is precious little between them. most of these teams do have quality mixed with passengers as the lack of strength in depth is apparent.
therefore with a good organiser who can motivate we can easily accomplish a runner up spot in qualifying competitions.
i would have no objection to martin o neill, though i do know both MON and his sidekick John Rob, have had serious off field issues in the recent years, issues they did not have at celtic, and that may hinder them. perhaps the less rigourous schedule of international management may suit them.
as the most successful previous managers were outsiders, you could consider casting the net elsewhere.
i would be a keano fan, his management CV is heading in the same direction as his contemporary Lothar Matthaus, and management may not suit his personality.
how about a bold call.......would the part time element of the job be tempting to someone like Sir Alex Ferguson....he never struct me as one to rest on his laurels.
the goal is to qualify for the next finals tournament.
over the last 5 days I have dipped into live footage of approx 15 games and the standout feature for me, is that outside of a few like spain and germany, the teams in europe you would rank maybe 7 to 27, there is precious little between them. most of these teams do have quality mixed with passengers as the lack of strength in depth is apparent.
therefore with a good organiser who can motivate we can easily accomplish a runner up spot in qualifying competitions.
i would have no objection to martin o neill, though i do know both MON and his sidekick John Rob, have had serious off field issues in the recent years, issues they did not have at celtic, and that may hinder them. perhaps the less rigourous schedule of international management may suit them.
as the most successful previous managers were outsiders, you could consider casting the net elsewhere.
i would be a keano fan, his management CV is heading in the same direction as his contemporary Lothar Matthaus, and management may not suit his personality.
how about a bold call.......would the part time element of the job be tempting to someone like Sir Alex Ferguson....he never struct me as one to rest on his laurels.
Cant see him getting off the sofa to manage us , plus it would be peanuts to him no matter what we payed him , and if i remember correctly , from his Coolmore days . He wanted HIS few bob...No possibility of that happening imo....
Its a given that Martin ONeill will be offered the job but he might not take it.
Surely with regards Ferguson Scotland's need is far greater.
Surely with regards Ferguson Scotland's need is far greater.
ill be getting the heads up from high powered fai officials at uniteds clubhouse over a few pints..!!
Don't think so they can spot a buff a mile away !
Well believe it as no other sport has this pulling power, it's pure drama and magic rolled into one to give us something intoxicating that's why is top of the bill !
Do you really believe that the country on its knees gives a toss about which spiv is going to get a load of tow rags to kick a bag of wind around the best you halfwit..........
Do you really believe that the country on its knees gives a toss about which spiv is going to get a load of tow rags to kick a bag of wind around the best you halfwit..........
drama and magic rolled into one!!..i like it rocky..one goal in 186 mins of soccer.sum drama.must av bin a slow news day
What's the betting on Dave o Leary and Roddy Collins throwing their hats in the ring, you are practically 99% certain to see both of them interviewed about the vacant job in the next week.
Shows how much people here know about football. Peddling out the same names. Look for a guy like Marcelo Bielsa, a man capable of getting the team playing football. An excellent coach. International football is cack. if we could get someone in who at least gets the team playing football and retaining possesion we would qualify for a few tournaments.
Perhaps we could get PEP himself.. Im sure Fergie will give it serious consideration also..
Padlock were do we get the money to pay these guys.....
Its well known that the FAI have no funds,(just enough to pay their own gigantic salaries), so straight away this narrows the field to the un-employed. They cannot afford to pay any compensation to a club, so any one with a club job is most likely excluded. Huge number of un-employed ex footballers with the Irish connection. The FAI might be able to afford to put a group together again such as Houghton, Whelan (maybe) and a few more safe hands !!, to draw up a short list and then pick from that. Brian Kerr was very unlucky in his term as manager, but they will hardly go back to him, so fwiw I think Dave O Leary is my best guess as I feel O Neill is perhaps overrated,(definitely overrated by himself).
O'Neill is perhaps overated? What do you mean by that statement?
Has there been a more successful Irish born manager?
Has there been a more successful Irish born manager?
He can still be overrated, not see the shambles of a job he done at Sunderland or what he spent at Villa in what can be best described as a mediocre job.
Rocketfingers....... I am with you on this, Roddy Collins and Pat Dolan as joint managers.
Stunned, i've seen it all now gant and Wildclown talking about football on the same thread. Wildman i thought football followers were all 'billy boys' as you called us.
Anyone remember the last market for this position? I recall laying billy davies for the position at 5s or so...i couldn't believe my luck...one of the most volatile markets on here i've ever seen
o neill overrated? successive promotions with Wycombe wanderers, 2 league cups with Leicester (LEICESTER), multiple trophies with celtic and lost 3-2 to a serious porto side in the uefa cup final, top six placings with villa. hes had a few bum jobs where it didn't work, but in the scheme of things, show me a better qualified Irishman?
Yes, Listen i'm not saying he's a poor manager he clearly isn't but laughable when you here Irish people saying he should have got a big job, that's what i mean about being overrated, people seem to have a notion he is some sort of footballing god. You see how much he spent at Villa? And see what type of football he played and as for his last job at Sunderland well less said about that the better. Also i would not expect much change in our style of play if this man took over.
Rocketfingers the us you refer to was just you and your departed sidekick and it concerns the teams you support.
An earlier reply of mine was deleted so some code is necessary but the teams wear blue.
An earlier reply of mine was deleted so some code is necessary but the teams wear blue.
David Moyes got a big job !........dont think there will be much change to our style no matter who takes over.....we are looking for someone who will get the best out of our best players...what we had with trap was someone who didn't get the best out of a group that was not representative of our best players. O Neill, McCarthy, Hughton, McDermott would all be good selections imo...the way the process has begun though with Delaney beggars belief, an utter f$cking clown who will diminish the chances of getting the best candidate
i backed brian mcdermott in ladbrookes last night at 9/1 not because i think he should get the job but the same man was at 9/4 with P.P. , Also someone was looking for 7.4 here. The reality is there should be no rush on the F.A.Is. part to look for someone just yet.... you never know SIR ALEX might come out of retirement to take the job 
.... Martin o neill is around 1/2 at the min ..will most lilkly to get the job but knowING the F.A.I and there ways the price is a bit skinny.
.... Martin o neill is around 1/2 at the min ..will most lilkly to get the job but knowING the F.A.I and there ways the price is a bit skinny.
The only way anyone would bet the odds on Martin ONeill would be on the say so of a certain gentlemans father who is a well known racegoer.
how is this gash even making the news ahead of the biggest sporting occasion of the year happening Saturday night 
St Jude would be the only man for the job, whole thing is totally irrelevant,players aren,t there simple as.Agree with Premier total overblown nonsense, in our heart and soul we all know the team is poor,might turn around in a few years time until then can only hope for a more attacking style even if the results suffer,the last few matches were simply puke soccer of the highest order.
It can change around in a flash, all it takes is someone who can gain the imagination of the new generation.
Roy Keane could be a good bounce back manager to inject that and then walk away after 6 months to a year leaving Martin O'Neill to provide the organization and long term tactics to qualify.
The problem of negativity in passing comments from Irish who don't support the team are seeping into the mainstream in the same way as it done in England along time ago.
The prize of an Island party for a summer is very significant for those who enjoy the high energy that provides.
Roy Keane could be a good bounce back manager to inject that and then walk away after 6 months to a year leaving Martin O'Neill to provide the organization and long term tactics to qualify.
The problem of negativity in passing comments from Irish who don't support the team are seeping into the mainstream in the same way as it done in England along time ago.
The prize of an Island party for a summer is very significant for those who enjoy the high energy that provides.
v attractive job to get.expectations low.gemany will be a hammering.no fault of new man.hen an irrelevant home game.then summer off..at 20k a week who wouldnt want it
I'd like to see Brian Kerr given another shot at it although he won't get it. I thought he was unlucky to lose the position last time. After that maybe Chris Hughton.
Vicente Del Bosque. Currently on 50k (perhaps 100k) with Spain. Might be tempted by a substantial salary increase.
I'd like to see Brian Kerr given another shot at it although he won't get it. I thought he was unlucky to lose the position last time. After that maybe Chris Hughton.dj1947.......there was nothing unlucky about brian kerr as manager, the results in other games went his way and he still did.nt quilify, i think Chris Hughton will be manager some day but not this time m8.
The most important woossie-ball matter for me right now - is the possibility that England might yet fail to qualify for World Cup. If that comes to pass it could help curtail coverage of the bore-fest next summer - contaminating our airwaves.
With the expansion of the next Euros to 24 teams (ie. it is easier to qualify than not
) - we'll be plagued every 4 years with the likelihood of England, Scotland and Ireland probably qualifying most times
. So will be nice to have some respite between now and then.
Hopefully the African and Asian associations can get more muscle and offset this by ensuring less teams qualify from Europe for World Cups - increasing the likelihood of qualification failure by England/Scotland/Ireland etc. Of course, I'm afraid if that comes to pass the competition will increase to 64 teams and last from May 15th to August 10th
Next Ireland manager? Ehmm, let me see............don't know....can't be ar3sed to even think about it.
The thing which has become apparent to me is that the expectations of this country are out of kilter with what is generally possible. We were blessed with truly great players in the late eighties and nineties. This was the exeption and not the benchmark.
Country is too small, too many talented sportsmen will play GAA, and increasingly Rugby.
Ireland is 26th in terms of population in Europe - but the "effective" soccer-playing population reduces that by half at the very least). So in terms of playing resources we are on a par with - Lativa, Lithuania, Macedonia and Albania etc. We need to accept this.
With the expansion of the next Euros to 24 teams (ie. it is easier to qualify than not
) - we'll be plagued every 4 years with the likelihood of England, Scotland and Ireland probably qualifying most times. So will be nice to have some respite between now and then.Hopefully the African and Asian associations can get more muscle and offset this by ensuring less teams qualify from Europe for World Cups - increasing the likelihood of qualification failure by England/Scotland/Ireland etc. Of course, I'm afraid if that comes to pass the competition will increase to 64 teams and last from May 15th to August 10th
Next Ireland manager? Ehmm, let me see............don't know....can't be ar3sed to even think about it.
The thing which has become apparent to me is that the expectations of this country are out of kilter with what is generally possible. We were blessed with truly great players in the late eighties and nineties. This was the exeption and not the benchmark.
Country is too small, too many talented sportsmen will play GAA, and increasingly Rugby.
Ireland is 26th in terms of population in Europe - but the "effective" soccer-playing population reduces that by half at the very least). So in terms of playing resources we are on a par with - Lativa, Lithuania, Macedonia and Albania etc. We need to accept this.
Wallflower, you're assuming that everyone just watches the World Cup to see their own nation in action.
Of all the sports tournaments I've ever watched the Football World Cup is by far the most appealing (way ahead of the Champions League). Football, statistically, is the most popular game in the world. Kids, anywhere, can play it - even with a tin can.
Of all the sports tournaments I've ever watched the Football World Cup is by far the most appealing (way ahead of the Champions League). Football, statistically, is the most popular game in the world. Kids, anywhere, can play it - even with a tin can.
i'm beginning to agree with Wallflower
soccerball has become so so boring, they build these games up to be great [both club and country] and 9 times out of 1o they are utter cack with both teams afraid to lose so refrain from really going and trying to win, it's a borefest these days
in the pub the other week and they had both the soccerball and gaa on, a few years ago it would have been 1.01 i was watching the soccerball but i didn't even turn my head to check the score the other week
soccerball has become so so boring, they build these games up to be great [both club and country] and 9 times out of 1o they are utter cack with both teams afraid to lose so refrain from really going and trying to win, it's a borefest these days
in the pub the other week and they had both the soccerball and gaa on, a few years ago it would have been 1.01 i was watching the soccerball but i didn't even turn my head to check the score the other week
Yes too much money...Too much soccer....it becomes a blurrrr...
24 teams....Whats the point in that....will lose viewers and fans that...
24 teams....Whats the point in that....will lose viewers and fans that...
Surely you mean
Brian Clough and Peter Taylor
Brian Clough and Peter Taylor
No. They are both dead. I found that out when I read two Brian Clough biographies recently. 
My Peter Taylor is the one who managed England U21 and U20 teams.
Martin O'Neill might have learned something from Brian Clough as he played for him at Nottingham Forest, and afaik Stuart Pearce advertised his plumbing and electrical services in the Nottingham Forest match programme when he played there.
My Peter Taylor is the one who managed England U21 and U20 teams.
Martin O'Neill might have learned something from Brian Clough as he played for him at Nottingham Forest, and afaik Stuart Pearce advertised his plumbing and electrical services in the Nottingham Forest match programme when he played there.
Or anyone other than the person Eamonn Dunphy suggests. 
Roy Keane gents - and give him a 10 year contract so he can sort the whole feckin mess out from top to bottom!!
reb 12 Sep 13 16:28
Wallflower, you're assuming that everyone just watches the World Cup to see their own nation in action.
Of all the sports tournaments I've ever watched the Football World Cup is by far the most appealing (way ahead of the Champions League). Football, statistically, is the most popular game in the world. Kids, anywhere, can play it - even with a tin can.
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Not exactly what I was getting at.....matches might be alright if you're watching nothing else. Just if Ireland / England / Scotland are at these tournaments we have to endure the constant -
--- who's in /out the squad
--- daily injury scares
--- watching nutters (aka "best fans in the world"
) take great pride at the expense they've gone to, to follow the "the boys" (while herself manages with what's left)
--- Ole, Ole, Ole, ...... You'll never beat the Irish
--- Sky Sports news "exclusives" !!!!
--- The hassle of adjusting the radio in the car to avoid it all the accompanying sh1t
....obviously, I could go on!!
"home" nations aren't there
Wallflower, you're assuming that everyone just watches the World Cup to see their own nation in action.
Of all the sports tournaments I've ever watched the Football World Cup is by far the most appealing (way ahead of the Champions League). Football, statistically, is the most popular game in the world. Kids, anywhere, can play it - even with a tin can.
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Not exactly what I was getting at.....matches might be alright if you're watching nothing else. Just if Ireland / England / Scotland are at these tournaments we have to endure the constant -
--- who's in /out the squad
--- daily injury scares
--- watching nutters (aka "best fans in the world"
) take great pride at the expense they've gone to, to follow the "the boys" (while herself manages with what's left)--- Ole, Ole, Ole, ...... You'll never beat the Irish
--- Sky Sports news "exclusives" !!!!
--- The hassle of adjusting the radio in the car to avoid it all the accompanying sh1t
....obviously, I could go on!!
"home" nations aren't there
If the "home" nations aren't there.......just generally more peaceful
Iirc dunphy was advocating Paul Jewell (remember him?) to take over from staunton, saying he was a great manager,ffs he is currently unemployed dunphy is a spoofer.
Yes that's very true G Hall i remember that as well, He also backed Trap too before the job, but he has to say something controversial because that is how he earns his money.
Terry Venables was stitched up by the fai last time,told he had the job,then trap appeared from nowhere,a real soap opera,actually the managerial appointment is much more entertaining than watching the team play.
I think it could be Keane because both sides are desperate.
Keane could bring major sponsorship and draw large crowds at the Aviva.
He is desperate to get back into management and no worthwhile team in England is likely to give him a chance.
It could be a disaster, but it would be a marriage of convenience, even if it is a disaster, the FAI should still make a few bob. People would be happy to see O'Neill, but they would anticipate Keane more.
I don't particularly rate Keane as a manager or as a judge of a player, but there is no transfer market (his biggest weakness) and I get the sense that we haven't got any options much better. MON is indeed yesterday's man, the flops and the wage bill he left behind at Villa are the reason Lambert can't spend a bob when the rest of the league is awash with TV money.
Keane could bring major sponsorship and draw large crowds at the Aviva.
He is desperate to get back into management and no worthwhile team in England is likely to give him a chance.
It could be a disaster, but it would be a marriage of convenience, even if it is a disaster, the FAI should still make a few bob. People would be happy to see O'Neill, but they would anticipate Keane more.
I don't particularly rate Keane as a manager or as a judge of a player, but there is no transfer market (his biggest weakness) and I get the sense that we haven't got any options much better. MON is indeed yesterday's man, the flops and the wage bill he left behind at Villa are the reason Lambert can't spend a bob when the rest of the league is awash with TV money.
You'd watch it though, good or bad you'd watch, people are turning their back on it in the pubs at the minute. Was out myself on Tuesday and no one gave a ****.
Whoever it is, I hope we are never again subjected to a 2 man midfield that contains as poor an athlete as Glenn Whealan, the man is gassed after 5 minutes.
Whoever it is, I hope we are never again subjected to a 2 man midfield that contains as poor an athlete as Glenn Whealan, the man is gassed after 5 minutes.
Please, please, please look at the Roy Keane Wiki page and see where Sunderland and Ipswich were in their leagues when he left those clubs.
"By the end of November, Sunderland were 18th in the Premier League, having lost five of their six previous games. Keane stood down as manager on 4 December"
"Keane’s harsh management style was not appreciated by the Sunderland players, who were reported to have celebrated when they heard he had resigned"
"Keane's Ipswich side never really challenged for promotions and as a result of a poor run of form, ending up with his side dropping to as low as 21st in the Championship. Keane was sacked as Ipswich manager on 7 January 2011"
"By the end of November, Sunderland were 18th in the Premier League, having lost five of their six previous games. Keane stood down as manager on 4 December"
"Keane’s harsh management style was not appreciated by the Sunderland players, who were reported to have celebrated when they heard he had resigned"
"Keane's Ipswich side never really challenged for promotions and as a result of a poor run of form, ending up with his side dropping to as low as 21st in the Championship. Keane was sacked as Ipswich manager on 7 January 2011"
Paul Jewell 
.. the choice of Giles and Grumpy last time around
.. the choice of Giles and Grumpy last time around
My take on Keane is he's a traitor with a massive ego that needs to be fed ..He is one game away from walking every time we'd lose ...As kincsem says have a look at his past record as a manager ....Not for me ...
mo n logical choice.but dont expect much change.he very conservative.
I think we should forget about Roy Keane and Martin O'Neill.
Dunphy slaughtered Venables on tv previously.
How about Frank Rijkaard?
Dunphy slaughtered Venables on tv previously.
How about Frank Rijkaard?
lol. Forget Franky.
He turned down the PSG job recently, and according to his agent doesn't want to manage any club in 2013-2014....
He turned down the PSG job recently, and according to his agent doesn't want to manage any club in 2013-2014....
I hope the FAI take their time. There is no rush.
Getting a manager in quickly will not help us beat Germany.
Getting a manager in quickly will not help us beat Germany.
I propose Manuela Spinelli, the translator for Giovanni Trappatoni.
Jose Mourinho was Bobby Robson's translator, and he turned out alright.
Jose Mourinho was Bobby Robson's translator, and he turned out alright.
jimmy mcguiness ?with celtic at mo.im sure they would release him?donegal county board mite be more diffiult tho..
doing my best!!..mon gone from 1.9 to 1.2 so he must have it d say
Looks as if hes the man ok...On wards and upwards...
id preer b kerr r mick marthy.mon bit conservative for me
Would Manuela be still in a job if Brian Kerr got the gig.
Big night for you Gant , who do you think will win tonight ?..
Sugar Ray for me. It's a pity Pat Curtins dog did a toe. I just hope it's a clean run race with no hard luck stories. The connections of all 5 dogs are nice decent people.
god bless the connections of the 5 dogs........god bless the trainers......god bless the track.......god bless wonky.......its a pity he cant go tonight........
Will he get the rail ?...It must be terrible qualifying and within a min knowing you wont make the final....Oh btw God bless Paulie....
its on tv wonks.......ya will see it in john'o's.......
I wouldn't be too worried about him getting the rail...........Cabra Buck will probably lead up Ballymac Vic and if Sugar Ray is on their heels around the first........in an ideal world.
Good luck with that Gant , backed him myself last year , a strong runner , very game , wont let the occasion get to him either ...
its a cruel game dogs.pat curtin has his backed ew to win fortunes..it gets to the final then bang.
I also feel sorry for Aidan Denton and AP McCoy the other owners of this dog.........let's hope the dog retains all his ability when he returns in a few months time.
its a start all over again job tho.heres hoping he has a few fast ones for the coursing!!
I hear he pumped a fair few quid into his new place.
so i hear.hes some man.soundest you would meet.lives life in the fast lane.
oh ffs not mick maccarthy wtf are those neanderthals thinking
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