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If this is what you're alluding to, you are a despicable individual -
'200 women who endured barbaric birth operation are cleared to sue' http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/200-women-who-endured-barbaric-birth-operation-are-cleared-to-sue-29201617.html |
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What an ignorant thing to say....
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Borneo, please reassure the forum that the story outlined above is not the one you are alluding to.
If it is, this is a barbaric new low, even for you. |
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I could funk it and pick one of the myriad other groups suing us but won't as they are the ones I was referring to.
They have now learned the formula,get on RTE have gushing interviewers trying to show their caring credentials,the same with radio interviews,get your legal people to sound caring and stress certain words,twilight of their lives,a few oul bob for grandchildren and trips to Lourdes and the clincher go as a group to Dáil Éireann,the spineless ones in there can never say no as they just love giving away others money. What happened these women was wrong by today's mores but not back then,they survived for years without this compensation but the success of the Magdalenes has made them now feel hard done by. This started with the redress board when everyone who was ever in care received money,it is a given that unspeakable things happened in those dreadful institutions but once no defence was allowed exaggeration became the order of the day and people felt they were entitled to huge money for being cold or not being shown enough love,the state advertised for claimants in America and Australia. This money is now spent and they are returning for a top up as they couldn't handle the money first time up and they are in the twilight of their lives etc. We are the State and they are all suing us,these huge sums will have to be borrowed and it will be our children who have to pay it back. It is a feature in jury's in Ireland as well,they love giving huge sums of money to generally undeserving chancers as they think there is some pot of money available for this,they have to get it that all these awards mean something as to be cut to pay for it,all the while the voracious legal profession are racking up scurrilous dishonest fees. It is worth repeating that all these groups are suing us and we are not even allowed mount a defence. |
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Wildman it would seem to me that what is bugging you is that you really want a slice of the action? And you resent others who have rightful claims like this group to compensation from the state. I notice you seem extremely resentful to the opposite sex i would put this down to advances towards them being spurned !
I was actually in the car heading to Drogheda when i heard the news and said he can't be on about this group he'd never be that ignorant, how wrong was i ![]() As far as a new low has being reached on the forum this is probably true although it's a close call, yesterday richters pretended he had word on a horse that he clearly got from the market movers page on odds checker or site like that only for it to double in price near the off and finish down the field. |
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I have never sued anyone and feel it is unpatriotic to sue the State.
Who do you think will pay all this compensation,the women who are now waiting for compensation are at least genuine but the previous claimants were mostly bogus. I dislike group think and this new tyranny no differing views allowed and in compensation cases no defence allowed is pure wrong. The army deafness cases was the start and when members of the FCA joined in no one shouted stop,the nadir was reached when the corpulent Louth Labour TD Michael Bell sued the State and collected his alleged deafness was caused by him playing in the FCA band. The army deafness claims was a coalition of the judiciary and the legal people combining with a group of chancers and robbing the State. |
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Not even workrider can back you up on this one Borneo. I feel his shame.
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'What happened these women was wrong by today's mores but not back then'. I beg to differ. What happened to these women and the Magdalenes was as wrong then as it would be now. Do not apply the same standards to everyone who seeks compensation. Do not continue to defend the indefensible.
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Arfur you actually sound like one of those rapacious legal teams.
You have to get it into your heads that all this compensation money is borrowed and will have to be paid back,true patriots don't sue but our politicians have set a terrible example.. David Norris on Question Time exhorted some Pakistani businessman to sue the state with these unfortunate words " I hope they sue the pants of the state " he himself cycled into a hole and received ludicrous compensation ,Dick Spring was injured in a car crash and received a huge award despite not losing a days pay the circumstances of his settlement was dubious in the extreme. Every villain that appears in court when explaining his wealth nearly always has as part of his excuse the ubiquitous claim,we now have a divided society those that have received some lump sum and those that haven't. Misfortune can befall any of us but you have got to get it out of your heads that such misfortune is a Lottery win. |
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Do not apply the same standards to everyone who seeks compensation. Do not continue to defend the indefensible.
Well said. |
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This rant by Wildman is nothing short of give me my share plea !
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That's the opposite to what I said.
It's selfish and childlike to give things away that aren't yours,its what judges,politicians,Bono and Bob Geldof love doing,they never give any of their own money away. There is a solution impose a voluntary levy on your income tax,put it in a fund to pay all these huge compensation bills,the ones that agree with this compensation culture can feel good about themselves that they are contributing to these worthy causes,the ones that disagree will be happy in the knowledge that the compensation seekers will no longer be a drain on the public finances. That is all wishful thinking as no one would sign up,the likes of Rocketfingers thinks this money comes from some hidden pot and we don't have to pay for it but sadly although our generation won't pay for it we will just borrow it our children will. |
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Again you fail to distingush between worthy and non worthy cases.
Its chicken feed anyway in the bigger scale of things. If you want to worry about spending money that we don't have, don't fret about compensation culture or banks, its the welfare bill that is the real ticking bomb. |
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The chicken feed excuse is part of the culture and one used by the legal profession in the softening up process.
Why pursue anyone for back taxes,why pursue welfare cheats when all you will get is chicken feed,you do it out of fairness, This inability of politicians to say no as evinced by the agreeing to compensate nearly everybody is visible in their reluctance to even look at the welfare bill. The reduction not cancellation of this respite care grant met such opposition that they caved in,one of the recepients of this grant is the wealthy pension receiving economy wrecker Eamon Ryan and his journalist wife that's how ridiculous this gets. I am now entitled to free travel but I won't take it as I don't need it but if I did avail of it I could board a train in Cloughjordan travel anywhere I like and bring some alleged carer with me all for nothing,that is ridiculous. |
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OZY , of the bleeding heart , Telling all and sundry to give , give , give , Yet when asked to put his hand in his own pocket for a good cause , Does an about face .....The liberal left how are you ....
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i agree with wmfb's sentiments. if only more people had his sturdy moral compass
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OZY , ROCKET , I read in the Sunday Times the horrific case of a 5 year old Indian girl been raped by two men ...The really sad thing was the police asked the father to keep quite about it ...The father refused saying , The police did not help my family , they were only there for the rich...I assume both of ye will march on the Indian embassy to highlight this case , Seeing as how caring ye both are ....I confidently expect ye both to press for compensation for this poor family , The father only earned 2e 40c a day ...Surely ye champions of the underdog will not let this opportunity pass , and will hassle the Indian government till this wrong is righted...
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160k for Brazilian couple who lost an 8yo boy due to neglect at Portlaoise hospital......
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Should have got more, not that it would do the poor people any good.
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€224 Million=Church have paid,€1.276 Billion=Taxpayer (Prime Time)
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For that our gratitude must go to Michael Woods (FF).
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^ Don't forget Opus Dei
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http://www.rte.ie/
news/ 2013/ 0614/ 456657-peter-creighton/ I wonder what this guy will spend his new found wealth on ![]() So Justice system thinks Irish tax payer should give anyone hurt in prison money? An absolute joke. |
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It's not their money wmfb so they dish it out like confetti
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It's called the Bono Bob Geldof syndrome.
These two multimillionaires have been demanding Money for this and that but never a penny of their own is given,in fact they made money for themselves out of getting the poor to donate to their pet causes. Emily OReilly another lady who loves giving away others money and charges plenty for so doing,this money generally goes to the most undeserving. |
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So the government that likes to say yes finally said no.
The Bethany Home residents have now missed out on a lottery win much to the chagrin of RTE who in last nights news asked where do they go from here and included an interview with a former resident who laughingly said we need the money. What was it that changed the government and made them stand up for the state,was it the demand from Northern Ireland that they be compensated,was it the Orange Order connection. The Unionists quickly learned that Bertie Ahern loved giving away state money it made him feel good,he promised to build motorways in the North and fund all sorts of things but now that the money has run out we are pleading poverty but the Unionists know we are weak so still managed to draw down millions from us but this latest development is worrying for them. Now that the government are prepared to protect the state purse I am hopeful that the myriad groups of compensation seekers and their ever brilliant legal teams will at least have to do some work before they get their hands on the loot. |
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the "religious"orders should still pay compensation to their victims.dont be clouding the issue with norther ireland wildman
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They weren't victims this is part of the propaganda,they were generally young girls abandoned by their families and abandoned by the state,there was no welfare,there was abject poverty the nuns looked after them.
These were harsher times which is why my tongue in cheek original proposal of a hundred grand each for all born before 1960 was made. Politicians like to be liked have to appear to be generous and caring so they give money away left right and centre,never their own but to give away money and then go to a group who were not allowed defend themselves and demand they pay is just wrong. Kavvie your hatred of the Catholic Church is well known but in the case of the Bethany Homes they were Protestant institutions so its not clouding the issue by mentioning the Northern Ireland angle. |
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not so much the catholic church but all religion
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Talking of RTE, they are now peddling a complete non-story regarding 2 toddlers "Walking" out of the giraffe creche at the centre of the prime time investigation. Im sure RTE will push for a redress scheme in future years for residents of said creche
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The latest batch have arrived,the latest have already been compensated forty years ago but they have seen the way the land lies so back for a top up.
Thalidomide victims were already compensated and its nothing to do with the State but naturally RTE are using this new brand of emotionalism and the now obligatory twilight of our lives a few oul bob and sure there's only 32 of us line is peddled. They have been offered 62,500 each this is considered both an insult and a pittance,they are already drawing down a myriad of benefits,if the government had any backbone they would withdraw the offer and tell them go sue the pharmaceutical company that sold them the drug. I accept I am like a broken record but we must move from the mindset that all misfortune is compensatable and the government is responsible. The judiciary must also be told to stop making ridiculous awards because although it might make them feel good someone has to pay for it,that's us. |
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Becoming a crowded place again,a few new groups have joined the fray.
A crowd that had been beaten off have reemerged courtesy of the European Courts,these are led by a woman who has already received two tranches of compensation,she has run up astronomical legal bills that naturally the State will have to pay,watch these legal fees soar now that a broken state are now liable. Will her third belt of compensation sate her? |
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Her third tranche of compensation has come through,155 thousand lets hope she invests this wildly.
If she were to make an injudicious investment have no doubt she will be back with another angle. Wonder how much the brilliant legal team will receive. |
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wildly should be wisely.
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maybe wildly will be more appropriate wildman?
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You are right Silver,she might as well as she knows she can just return demanding more.
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Hello Wildman
Some strong opinions once again, put forward far better than i could. As a patriot,it appears that is how you see yourself. What action have you taken to quell this culture of compensation besides posting on a site in the main for gambolers. |
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wildmanfromborneo
24 Jul 13 10:21 Joined: 30 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 13,159 | Blogger: wildmanfromborneo's blog They weren't victims this is part of the propaganda,they were generally young girls abandoned by their families and abandoned by the state,there was no welfare,there was abject poverty the nuns looked after them. Is there not a hint of contradiction in this statement. |
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if the government had any backbone they would withdraw the offer and tell them go sue the pharmaceutical company that sold them the drug.
How did this company get a licence to sell this drug? |