Thalidomide victims were already compensated and its nothing to do with the State

I dislike group think and t

Probably to my shame I have done nothing.

I have vowed never to sue the state,taught my children not to sue the state.

I know of two people who in my opinion defrauded the state by suing,one in just a blatant fraud,the other just succumbed to the barrage of messages telling him to go to the redress board.
The redress board man always told us how well treated he was in the religious institution but he was inundated with requests from individuals to invent stories confirming dreadful treatment in an effort to maximise their compensation,he was written to by the redress board almost begging him to claim eventually he gave in for bogus reasons.

I probably should have reported the fraud but part of my psyche refused to let me become an informer,not logical i know.

Its now like a jungle.
The State is like a huge wounded buffalo crossing the Veldt,hovering overhead are some vultures,in the long grass a pride of lions,behind them some lingering hyenas,on the other side a Leopard with some Waiting jackals.

Seems also my suggestion of a measly 100 Grand for all is not near enough.
All sorts of individuals are being used to stripe the state for compensation,law professors human rights lawyers generally from England with big bills in their hands.
In the ludicrously generous deal they have even managed to get included a six grand plus vat figure for some non existent work for some legal people in each case.

What can never be stated is we are not liable,my children are not liable,the state is not liable.

This is my impersonation of Joe Duffy and RTE if they were arguing my case.
It will be the sick and the vulnerable who will pick up this tab,the not already compensated special needs families who will pay the price.

These old broads will await their huge windfall by travelling to Dublin using their free passes whilst heading for their world cruises once again ensuring this money will benefit every economy except our own.

When these have rifled the safe just wait for the next tranche of individuals and their ever brilliant legal teams.

Ian Bailey
Praveen.
The Asylum seeker denied an abortion
The top ups for those that couldn't handle the first tranche.
The prisoners forced to slop out.
All those in direct provision forced to consider prostitution.


They make the bond holders the equivalent of a knitting circle.

All the forumites who were shocked by my opening post might now start to get my point.
Remember only one view was allowed,these women got a free run.

We now learn that most of these women didnt have symphysiotomies but they gave them a few oul bob anyway.

And once again the big winners were the legal profession.

I thought Tobywong would be on telling us that he predicted this all along whilst explaining he was a personal friend of the judge.

Mincer exposed ,the Glin man taking Limerick to the cleaners for years Racingqueen.... Its out in the open now Mince.....

Widmanfromborneo..........The more you and the old boys club sweep under the carpet, the bigger the scandal.
Old Ireland at it's finest, what a horrible nasty little country we live in.
At least the Gaurd, Doctor and Clergy have no clout over the people anymore, these cover ups are costing the state a fortune.
The nuns were damn right nasty, my poor old granny even looks over her shoulder while giving about them now.

I wouldn't be sicking up for it Gant,it is hard to believe that it did go on.
Maybe i have been lucky but particulary in education never met a bad Nun or Christian Brother really, i got threatened to be sent off with the Good Sheperds and enough leatherings off them alright, i deserved a few i think.
As bad as it was Gant there was edducation and hospitals from them for the relative needy, is todays country more horrible and nastier? a murder every day,the streets awash with heroin,crime through the roof, maybe in 50 years time we will be saying how did we put up with it.

Pol Pot,Stalin,Mao, All Atheists Gant. Maybe if they'd spent some time in a religious order, Millions would be still alive . Hard to believe these evil  bastards had such power.

“If you come here you’ll find no mass grave, no evidence that children were ever so buried and a local police force casting their eyes to heaven and saying, ‘Yeah a few bones were found – but this was an area where famine victims were buried. So?’,”

The Bon Secours hired Terry Prone as a PR 2 years ago and that was their statement.

I haven't heard anything about compo but I'm sure there'll be a few, however I'd say the vast majority in Tuam anyway just want a genuine apology, and the graveyard marked, ffs they've built houses on top of them, if you buried a dog you wouldn't do that.

Wildmanfromborneo.........It's time to break away from the belief that the state was always right and the peasants were the problem.

Not even Matlock would get them out of the recent cover ups.

It seems to me a lot of the views here are very narrow and allow for no nuance and, in some cases, don't particularly care about collateral damage.

I would rather have the Irish Times and Examiner than the options of Denis O'Brien or the redtops. A newspaper should challenge our thinking daily and "hypocrisy" is not an accurate reflection of a newspaper that offers the musings of both Una Mullally and Breda O'Brien. I personally feel that until abortion is available women will still live under the shadow of the crozier, even if I am ambivalent about the process.

My other objection is to the word "hate": the comment "hating your history, parents and grandparents" is simply wrong for the vast, vast majority of those affected by State negligence/institutional abuse and reminds me of the grief that the holocaust survivor, Elie Wiesel, went through all his lifetime for thinking for a split second that he wished his father dead in the camp to allow himself live. What people hate is the system and the protected elite and, hopefully, there are fewer hiding places today in what is still a fairly unequal society. Hate doesn't come easy to us unless we are brainwashed.