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Kelly i would not get too excited about what people think of you on here mate, everybody thinks i'm a BS artist yet no one has ever proved me wrong even when i stick up photos they still find fault.
 As i said always thought you were a decent guy and one of the more interesting posters on here. |
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Sticks and stones dont worry me Rocketfingers . I know when I am right . Unlike some other people who used to post here in the past but left in self imposed exile , nothing will ever gag me or cause me to lose sleep . I am too long in the tooth to be worried by unflattering or abusive remarks . Every person has a duty to stand up for the truth , presumably thats one of the tenets the Irish Forum in particular should be buying into .
Pity there are a lot of bull writers around though I seldom pay any attention to their musings . That some choose to infiltrate a serious post and attempt to score points off valid views and experiences is just sad . |
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it is a serious issue kelly,but u have excluded and discredited yre self with yre bullshtting .you are of no help here imho.
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Still no facts kingrat , just throwaway comments . What part of my posts are bull ?
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ok ,tell me about joe cunnigham.
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We called him Joey , kingrat , not Joe , thats a fact . But I am waiting for an answer , not a question .
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ok,fine,tell me about him.
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WHO DID HE PLAY FOR B4 CROSS
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Kingrat , the premise on which you called me a bull writer seemed to be founded on fact that I had never any contact with Joey Cunningham , nor any knowledge of him . Seems I know more about him than you , beginning with christian name . He was underscored tonight on the news as Joe Cunningham , but we all knew him as Joey .
He played for Armagh at all levels as far as I remember , always as a forward , he was not large , but was pretty fast and accurate . Think he also played soccer when at school , not sure which school he was at , although it was not unusual for a lot of the Armagh under 16-s and minors to be attending the best gaelic football schools in the north -- in Down ( St Colmans and The Abbey ) in those days . . Ollie Reel was a contemporary of his , and he was at one of those two schools , a better player than Joey , and a better player than some of our Down lads . We would have loved him in the red and black . But still awaiting an analysis of my perceived bull . |
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yeah,1 of kelly's heros ,eh?....pls , stop!dont make it any worse for yre self......pathetic!
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Still no facts kingrat , until you come up with the facts on which your bull assertion is based you remain discredited . Every sentence I have posted in this thread is based on facts associated with my own experience , you have added nothing except a conversation regarding alleged ( unproven , but rationally feasible ) continuous racial abuse against Joey Cunningham with your dad .
Joey Cunningham as reported today , said he had suffered racial abuse throughout his footballing career , but he was careful to identify it as his soccer career . He also said that racial abuse within the GAA was foreign to the GAA as he knew it , which suggests he did not experience much ( if any ) , which is consistent with my viewpoint re his matches against Down in his formative years . Sorry kingrat , but the facts and the media are stacked against you . Read the news . |
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Wildman,
It was Gerry McInerney rather than Linnane that this was said to, but the rest of your point is valid and you would expect that if stories are going to be made up, they would at least be slightly under the radar from most rather than one of the most famous hurling stories of that time. |
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Still no back up facts from you , kingrat . I wont go away you know .
And rocketfingers , if you back a loser , acknowledge it . Please . |
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STILL NO ANSWER WHO HE PLAYED FOR B4 CROSS
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No idea , Decalec . I am from Down , can fill in most questions ref my own county . In my day though Armagh were designated as the "enemy" , particularly if you lived south of Newcastle , and any interest in Armagh football was negative . But on the pitch there was mutual respect for anyone who had talent as a player and those in charge of our teams knew how to tune into any drumbeats which they gleaned from fellow students of theirs . Not a lot of academic institutions in south Armagh , and St Pats Armagh were not a great force then schools football wise , the good potential Armagh youngsters tended to migrate to Newry for schooling ( and football education which was so good there in the eighties ) , geography permitting .
Joey Cunningham from my recollections of him in his younger days was viewed as a soccer player who also played gaelic , as distinct from gaelic players who also played soccer . A good few Down players of that period also played soccer , one to supplement his income as he got £70 per match , but divided loyalties were not viewed in the best light by successive Down managers , and sometimes coloured ( figuratively) decisions re selection / tactical activity / subbing . Google him . |
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Bassanio 04 Dec 12 10:18 Joined: 06 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 607 | Blogger: Bassanio's blog
Wildman, It was Gerry McInerney rather than Linnane that this was said to, but the rest of your point is valid and you would expect that if stories are going to be made up, they would at least be slightly under the radar from most rather than one of the most famous hurling stories of that time. We have a winner, looking forward to hearing an apology from Wildman although i won't be holding my breath  |
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A few well constructed replies Kelly.It will be interesting to see what response(if any) you receive.
As for Rocketfingers reply to Bassanio unless I am mistaken his story disproves your original post.In other words its not something you should be gloating about. |
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boy are you in trouble kelly , ratty and now walter not believing you , why you even bother responding to these two clowns s beyond me ..most on here respect you and value your opinion on most things ..of course we differ on somethings ..to let yourself be brought to trial by these poor brainless muppets is painful to see ....let them get on with their stupidity
....your worth more than 20 of them.... |
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Your wrong tolmi as Wildman said my friend would have to have been John Leahy i said it was not
 I will await his answer. I love it when a plan comes together |
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he's fooking MR T NOW....
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Gawd, ur slow today RF - it's only a 2 piece jigsaw!
Galway v Tipp McIntyre V Leahy Think about it or google it imo  |
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Workrider , when I started on Betfair it was ingrained in my psyche that it was immoral to bet on a certainty . Blame Church and State for that if you like , it was part of schooling and religion and whatever else , plus family connections who knew their way around betting and card playing etc .
However a few weeks on Betfair , even in those early days of 11-12 years ago , and you parked that concept . Missed £1500 the other night at 1.03 on the cricket for Amla to score a century , only had a few quid in my Aussie account , and transfer time meant I missed it . Someone wanted to lay it though , and if I didnt take it , someone else would , good luck to whoever got it , market should have been closed when the batsmen ran , but it wasn't . Someone obviously wanted to lay it , possibly sitting on a big win , securing the green ( not the baggy one , its a bit tattered at the moment , like some of our posters ! ) . Time a planty I have , not like years ago when the bookies were not hooked in completely to the dynamic betting model that is Betfair . Harder to make big money these days due to model change . |
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Brilliant post by Kelly, that is why i think he's one of the best posters on here, i think we must have went to the same school Kelly ;)
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Thanks Bassanio and of course you are right.
I passed through Kilcoo many times on my way to Downpatrick,it was some achievement for a small club to reach a provincial final that they then found themselves playing one of the greatest ever club teams made it hard for them.They lost narrowly but now in an almost carbon copy of what happened in England the Armagh boys who have previous in this regard are whingeing about some name calling,they have become so emasculated that physical violence doesn't matter but hurting some gentle souls feelings hence the crying,will someone tell them they won and try to concentrate on getting their hatrick of All Irelands. |
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Name calling is dismissable as long as it does not have the barb of racism , wildman , or worse as reference to people who have suffered family loss etc . Have been called lots of things myself down in Kilcoo when we brought teams of all ages to play against them over the years . It was not the friendliest venue on our itineraries , but invariably we beat them which softened the incidents , and eventually we got their respect when they realised we were as tough as they thought they were .
Cross have proved themselves to be a great football team over the last decades , and they put up with a huge amount of hassle in the course of their journey . Only know one native of Cross myself ,but he is not a big GAA man . University would have been a meeting place in that respect , but few of them ever came to Queens when I was there . And South Armagh was not a place I chose to visit between 1970 and mid nineties , and when I had occasion to travel that way in the late nineties the natives were suspicious of any car they did not know , and the sign posts were nearly all up the left . . Sat nav cures that nowadays , but none then . Nice countryside though . |
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100% agree with Kelly on this Wildman your level of ethics appears to be a lot lower than ours i see.
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Rocketfingers a graduate of St Andrews where he probably shared a room with Prince William,Ozymandius a Cambridge graduate,TheGalwayman another graduate and now we discover that Kelly is a graduate of Queens and all of ye have the same views on this topic.
Kelly your last post shows that you are hardly a disinterested party and your rivalry with Kilcoo has heightened your sensitivity but remember these Armagh boys were whingeing about some Laoise player before,he apparently hurt their feelings so much before they were forced to exact some physical retribution. Which do ye think is worse name calling even with the barb of racism or physical violence. |
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I'm so embarrassed. My University education exposed and my anti racism views laid bare.
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There is a spot the Ringo element to my opening paragraph.
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As Alexander Pope said 'a little learning is a dangerous thing'. You are living testament to this Borneo!
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Did workrider reach third level I wonder, Borneo? He is after all, your right hand man on these topics.
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Borneo and Chitty are being exposed for the neanderthal like creatures they are, both are key board warriors and both are infantile. If you see above, wildman does not process the word racism in his limited vocabulary, instead he refers to it as "Nasty words"
. AS for his right hand man, the empty vessel himself Chitty, he hardly reached 3rd class never mind 3rd level, which is exactly the right criteria you need to become a Shams fan. |
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Sorry, typo, that should have read 'second' level.
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ozy, did u really threaten to have someone banned, for referring to u as a 'mick' ?
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Not banned, Freddie, that wouldn't be my decsion. Reported, yes.
Betfair banned a forumite a couple of years ago for repeatedly throwing this term around, so it appears they are in accord with me. I don't wish to debate the implications of the word, I just don't like it, several don't, including betfair it seems. |
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nothing to it. we re micks and paddys at the end of the day
that stuff shouldnt be taken seriously when there is a real racism debate at the moment |
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I dislike being referred to as a mick or a paddy.
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maybe u dislike being irish too
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Clearly enough people complained about it to Betfair to make them think its useage was not desireable.
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That's not the reason,Betfair are terrified by politically correct people like Ozymandius and so are bullied into submission by these new liberal tyrants.
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