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By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 09 Oct 12 16:45
That's silly, if you think the horse is a steering job i'd imagine the horse is shorter than 11/10 on your tissue, in that case 11/10 'is value' as you have it shorter. It doesn't matter if there is another horse in another race that you also fancy that is a bigger price, if that horse is also above your tissue you back both


Well done on the winner MD
By:
Bassanio
When: 09 Oct 12 16:48
An 11/10 shot is value if you consider it a 1/2 shot etc as we all know.

I would say the Brighton horse is very moderate and a very winnable race was left behind. Not one to follow unless you enjoy cliffs.

Henry Candy is very good with sprinters. That one today is no star but can be placed to win again this autumn and Ishigurus seem to enjoy the wet sod.
By:
Bassanio
When: 09 Oct 12 16:50
Agreed PF,

I am sure you did scoff at the 1/1 Sugar Ray at the weekend simply because you fancied another dog in an earlier race at 5/2 etc.

If 2 horses are overpriced in comparison to your tissue on the same day, you hardly leave one behind because you really really fancy the other.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 09 Oct 12 16:54
I wish i'd waited and got the EVS at the off Laugh, i took 4/5, that was above what i had him to 100%
By:
thegalwayman
When: 09 Oct 12 17:07
snap crackle and pop comes across as the Pop to md's Snap.
By:
kavvie
When: 09 Oct 12 17:14
lads im sure if it was that easy to pick winners we all would be at it?.the facts are that magic md was on here a few years ago and his tipping(free)made a lot of us a lot of money. me and md had several arguements and discussions here but i can say i came out 2nd in most of them!!we even had a competition between us on a certain event a few years ago..he beat me hands down and his knowledge of all things sporting is very impressive..his buddy snap is now posting tip in the last while and had been very very good.the attitude of some people on here is unreal.ok the 2nd one won at 7/2 with a hands and heels ride from dane o neill and surely will be fav next time out under a 7lb penalty,thats how impressive she looked.the first race at brighton(steering job)is more complicated.its sp evs suggested a 50%chance of winning.the 2nd and 3rd favs were supported to beat it.he beat these out of sight but sadly for us an unconsidered and unbacked rag came up the rail and beat us.if they ran the race again im sure the fav would win.so please people if were getting nuggets of info from snap dont shoot the messenger!!
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 09 Oct 12 17:18
I was only replying to this comment no value in backing 11/10 shots when your nap for the day is 7/2! i don't think i have ever replied before to a post made by Snap so i hope your post is not aimed at me.
By:
kavvie
When: 09 Oct 12 17:22
not you at all.its fine to talk about percieved value etc.people arnt slow to slag people who give a loser etc.you know what im on about..
By:
Bassanio
When: 09 Oct 12 17:31
I am not slagging anyone off about backing a loser. I am trying to discuss the concept of value and what price steering job makes a horse.

The winner is not entered up anywhere over the next week so unlikely to run under a penalty. I would have thought he would get no more than 5lb for today anyway so running under a penalty would be daft. It is only the likes of Sir Mark and a few others that have 20lb in hand that usually turn them out quickly in England. Candy is very good at eeking out improvement from what may look a moderate sprinter, but this is likely to be gradual and will continue through into next year.
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 09 Oct 12 17:38
For what its worth, MD's NB for today's action is Kay Gee Bee, 11/8, 6.00 Wolverhampton
By:
Bassanio
When: 09 Oct 12 17:38
You have a slightly different agenda from me and I suspect PF as well kavvie. I am not in the least bit worried about getting nuggets of information and I like to question races and discuss aspects of it.

I have never heard of a price on a horse to beat the 2nd and 3rd fav before in my life.

I don't see how it is sadly for us either as snap crackle had suggested that there was no value in the price which looks like a no bet recommendation to me. If you are following his tips then surely you are not backing one that he has suggested is not value, irrespective of the steering job comments.

The bets advised today were 1 bet and 1 winner.
By:
kavvie
When: 09 Oct 12 17:48
well if you hear "steering job" you tend to take notice!!
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 09 Oct 12 17:51
GL Snap
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 09 Oct 12 18:19
According to MD, the NAP of all NAP's runs tomorrow. Will post on here tomorrow once MD has got his money on
By:
kavvie
When: 09 Oct 12 19:35
will it b b4 11 snap?ill be away from comp after that..
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 09 Oct 12 19:42
I will send it to you by pm on this now so kavvie
By:
kavvie
When: 09 Oct 12 19:44
grand thanks
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 09 Oct 12 20:59
The horse is Sunpass 4.30 Nottingham. Was 11/4 and 9/4 earlier but into 13/8 now. Help yourselves in the morning as MD thinks it will go off odds on. Surprised
By:
kingrat
When: 10 Oct 12 01:00
gis a winner
By:
kavvie
When: 10 Oct 12 10:13
odds on now..
By:
Bassanio
When: 10 Oct 12 10:25
11/4 was available with 365 for 3 minutes so I assume that was missed but 9/4 and below looks ok now!
By:
never give up
When: 10 Oct 12 11:19
4 non runners
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 10 Oct 12 11:29
There will be no rule 4 ngu, all 4 non runners were 20/1 or bigger.
By:
Bassanio
When: 10 Oct 12 11:43
This is not a bad little race.

The current price looks horrible at 6/4 - 7/4 looked skinny enough anyway.

Best of luck with it.
By:
never give up
When: 10 Oct 12 11:49
ok snap good luck
By:
workrider
When: 10 Oct 12 11:52
odds on now...good luck snap...
By:
Bassanio
When: 10 Oct 12 12:01
Could well be a horse in the guise of Nationalism (same sire/owner/trainer etc) that has been very carefully handled and will improve a lot this autumn. Nationalism also danced in on his handicap debut.

I am prepared to punt Cactus e/w at 10s provided there is no rain that softens the ground further. He did it very well at Sandown (although the race has not worked out that well) and was given a poor ride at Warwick (where strangely for a fair track. horses can run odd races). If he follows home the handicap snip, I will not be incurring losses. There are a couple of other lightly raced types that could improve over the next 3-4 weeks as well and it is not a soft race.
By:
richters
When: 10 Oct 12 16:46
poor effort....bad luck scp....personally i blame bassanio.....
By:
The Icchantika
When: 10 Oct 12 17:29
I preferred B when he was DV.
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 11 Oct 12 11:21
Hello Stranger 5/2, 4.10 @ Ayr. MD NAP
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 12 Oct 12 12:44
4.15 @ York Docs Legacy 11/2, MD NAP
By:
richters
When: 12 Oct 12 16:26
tell md to take a break 4 a few days mate.....
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Oct 12 16:29
thanks snap,hard luck.it touched 1.22 in running.i had a good ew bet at 11/2,no pleasing some people!!
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 13 Oct 12 09:23
Tres Coronas @ 5.30 York, 4/1, MD NAP
By:
richters
When: 13 Oct 12 11:33
G.L Snap......
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 13 Oct 12 12:34
10 non runners now snap...11/4 best now.

  horse has got his ground allright..good luck ..im on....HappyHappy
By:
Cupwinkcook
When: 13 Oct 12 13:30
I'm a few bob on, gl all
By:
irish_guy_13
When: 13 Oct 12 23:57
SadSad
By:
snap crackle and pop
When: 15 Oct 12 11:28
Rust @2.10 Musselburgh, 4/1, MD NAP
By:
richters
When: 15 Oct 12 14:15
another seismic drift scp.....
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