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That showed Camelot for what he is,very average.Bookies showed themselves up with the miserly sp of 9/4 which they should be totally ashamed of themselves.

no excuses....was'nt good enough

Here we go again the so called calm exterior of the so called worlds best trainer shot to pieces again?, could barely control himself after his son was beaten on the heavy odds on shot at Doncaster, at least today the son wasn't riding but the excuses for the vanquished super horse were pouring out conveyor belt like, you better believe it guys next year Camelot is going to be the greatest horse that ever existed, but only at 10f mind you?

But when the so caled calm one calms down and Jesus isn't talking, we might see in the media in a few weeks time that Camelot has picked up some sort of mysterious ailment or injury and we've decided to retire the greatest horse we've ever ever trained.

Lapsy pa do you really believe that?, such is the amount of cry wolf for beaten superstars in horse racing you're entitled to be sceptical about everything they say, I'm years and years listening to excuses for vanquished superstars and even if they're telling the truth I don't believe them because its become so robotic, whatever you do make sure you have an excuse, no horse is ever beaten fair and square!.

rocket you will soon get sick of paris..snotty nosed waiters carting you out glasses of heiniken at 8e a shot and the glass half full of froth.or a few little mouthfuls of tapas at 20e a go.i hate the place..

I think vubiant has summed it up pretty well pa lapsy, its becoming tiresome now, he keeps tripping over himself trying to justify the hype, when St Nic was beaten by his stabemate that wonder horse Windsor Palace, he said it was the 10f trip that caught him out (we all know the horse was barely even fit), and when he was beaten in the King George Aidan says we think he's a better horse at 10f's, of course Frankel left him floundering, the guy is like one of those wind up toys, say the same thing over and over again, and when that doesn't quite work out change the record and say the same thing over and over again, but you're so confused by now Aidan you keep tripping yourself up and not one of the media are ballsy enough to question your contradictions!

I would have thought APOB would know better than to continue throwing the superlatives around and continually giving hostages to fortune.

He seemed like a complete nervous wreck (more than usual) in the interview with Matt Chapman just after the race,to keep trotting out "the best we've ever had" is just a broken record at this stage.

Sad to say but APo'B has lost credibility with most punters.............

changed = trained

I dont think he does. he just seems like a normal bloke to me, family man, who is v uncomfortable with a camera pointed at him and uncomfortable having to market every horse as the best ever. hes a bumbling mess at this stage and has resorted to using the same superlatives over and over to big up horses he really doesnt think are the best hes trained. this is just my opinion, I dont know him from Adam, just going on what I see from his antics on the track.

Todays interview was cringeworthy.I like AOB but he was a mess today telling lie after lie.
I was actually LOL at the **** that was pouring from his mouth.
Coolomore are very clever people but they're turning their operation into a bit of a joke with all this carry on.

Just saw the interview again,about 20 listens in 2 minutes,the guy was manic considering the way he used to conduct himself when interviewed when he used to just thank god and the chance to train the horses and now it's either excuses or saying the horse (whichever one it is he's being asked about)is the second coming.

Don't think he's doing his health any good.

would you care to expand a little on that wildmanfromborneo....do you mean they've overstretched  themself's a little financially , or are you saying theres something sinister going on.....just wondering ...

fair points ...thanks...

On a purely horseracing basis how lucky are we as fans of it that the young fella made a mess of the Leger. Imagine having to put up with the hype of a triple crown winner that in reality is no better than an average Derby winner with an attirude problwem

I have always been of the opinion that Aidan nominating his son as de facto stable jockey can only ever end in tears. As a business there can't be any room for sentiment and the young lad couldn't possibly have the wisdom and experience for one of the hottest hot seats in the world. Every problem or crisis was going to be exacerbated by the father/son connection. If "the lads" are annoyed with the young lad putting up overweight on a regular basis or unable to ride a horse like Camelot on Sunday what happens when they voice their displeasure to dad? If Aidan's hand is ever forced on this issue, his days in Ballydoyle will be numbered. What a silly position for these uber wealthy guys to find themselves in.

The Coolmore situation is interesting: up to now they have led the field thanks to untouchable stallions and their uncanny ability to repalce one champion with another. Goffs last week was amazingly positive but it was Sea The Stars that was the pre-eminent stallion. The Arabs may not be supporting Coolmore-sired youngsters but it seems that in Jim Bolger they may have suddenly unlocked the secret to competing successfully against Coolmore with, ironically, sons of Coolmore champions. I don't for a moment think that there are financial difficulties but the level of competition is increasing all the time with endless newcomers from Qatar and the Middle East changing the face of the game. We have been fortunate here in Ireland to a certain extent in that the advisors surrounding the Arabs are generally silver spoon merchants and Sheikh Mohammed himself seems an extraordinarily stubborn man. As I've often remarked how he has wasted tens of millions in past decades is flabbergasting even if it's source is an endless pit. If you take a critical look at the present roster of Coolmore stallions I think that they need some serious additions. John Magnier will not be around forever and his departure from the scene will leave a huge gap to be filled in Ireland. He is a genius.

Irish and British racing is also in a parlous state because of bookmaker hegemony and the action is now firmly in France, Australia and the Far East. Racing in Germany and Italy is in very bad shape the the Americans have ruined their industry through bute and lasix not to mention the fact that your average "horseplayer" is regarded as something nasty on the sole of your shoe.
This year's flat season in Ireland was a virtual non-event with the weather not helping much. No-one is interested in the flat so most days are to support the industry and racecourses are happy to get their hands on TV money. Classic days have been ruined by lack of competition and the one saving grace for the industry is the strong export markets we have developed. Coolmore are also to the forefront of the China Syndrome and that's probably where the future is.

The outlook for the flat-racing landscape in ten years time is not pretty.

That is a fantastic post Royal academy.

I wonder wildman if you are getting your info or observing some of the people outside the big 3/4 and deducing the kinngs are under pressure as well. That would be a mistake. The managers and side-kicks might be feeling the pinch a little bit but the Tabors and Magniers of the World have more money than ever, of that I am certain