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John Oxx A Poor Trainer.

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neill d
When: 11 Jun 16 00:35
Would prefer past prime to poor as a description. But you now call him shot. People allude a lot on here to the juice. I could never see John Oxx using the juice. I wonder is there anything in it. No winners yet is astonishing though. Oxxs legacy is cemented anyway as RA mentioned and whatismore, most people like John Oxx.
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wildmanfromborneo
When: 11 Jun 16 09:22
Royal Academy must have been on holidays when Harzand won the Derby.

He also uses the word arbitrarily when picking the year 2000 for some of his stats,it certainly doesn't look that way.
The thrust of the whole argument was the time John Oxx had all the Aga Khans horses in these islands and that was the nineties.

No one denies he is a nice man but the point was he inherited a stable full of horses with some of the best owners in Ireland,no debt.

Weld is a far better trainer,more innovative more adaptable.
Throughout Welds long career he has always managed to have a great jockey as his stable jockey,not so Oxx.
By:
Temlett
When: 11 Jun 16 10:04
Was Oxx not firmly on the wane before Sea The Stars came along. He had one other promising horse at around a mile and then Alandi developed into a high stayer, but he was already a shadow of the stable that he had been. The fact that he seems to be a nice man seems to mean that he escapes criticism that others might get but apparently the quality of workrider used down for many years now, the pay that they receive etc is poor and there was no reduction in fees charged?
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Temlett
When: 11 Jun 16 10:20
Looking at the stats it does not really back up that he was in decline to a great extent before 2009, although he did not have the same quality. He really seems to have fallen off a cliff from end of 2012 alright.
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