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rubyisgodinthesaddle
12 Aug 12 14:15
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Anyone see the Sunday Times today.

1500 guests, TD'S and Minsters for Finance.

Rub it all in our faces McManus, you are some piece of work. I wonder how he thinks he is the salt of the Limerick earth with this carry on. I wouldn't dismiss him having a party but one with such lavish bash and Senior politicians he knew full well the papers would be all over it.

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By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 14:38
Big swing..........they should have held it at a secret location.
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Aug 12 15:08
guy has money.he threw a party.so what?hes keeping thousands in jobs in ireland.only for him the irish nh racing scene would be in ribbons.fair dues to him.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 12 Aug 12 15:12
Give me Michael O'Leary any day of the week.

Pays his taxes, doesn't play the big fellow by donating to this and that, and doesn't suck up to the great and the good.  And as regards creating jobs....no contest.
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 12 Aug 12 15:15
Irish racing is barely surviving and what has this guy done for anything in this country......where does he pay his taxes,this is another disgrace and surely questions to answer for Noonan and co to be attending this sort of bash.....or whatever you want to call it.....Fianna Gael are just Fianna Fail there is the same difference......Galway tent moved to Limerick this year.............
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Aug 12 15:19
he contributes to what he thinks is right not to paying the bankers,where my paye goes.i wish i had the choice.
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 12 Aug 12 15:22
No problem throwing a party but he threw a huge bash that he knew was going to come out in the media.

What does that say?
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 15:29
Michael O'Leary pays tax on his salary from Ryanair.....€1.27 million.
JP McManus is a tax exile who funds local sporting organisations, charities, hospitals, scholarships etc.......
By:
dj876
When: 12 Aug 12 15:31
I think the modesty that he attempts to display in public interviews are insincere.

Ok he has 300 odd Nh horses in training in Ireland and GB and no doubt contributes massively towards the industry but he is taking some amount out between him ans his son.An untouchable,bigger than the game.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 12 Aug 12 15:31
To be fair to Jay he is spot on with a lot of his argument, for me i could not care who McManus invited or what he held but really it's more onus for the likes of Noonan to decline than for McManus not too invite. One rule for the working class and another for the rich in this country.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 12 Aug 12 15:36
I don't understand the point you are trying to make, Gant
By:
bobbybocala
When: 12 Aug 12 15:47
the country is gone mad too.......ya cant have a few friends over for a few drinks.....and the cribbers are out in force.....its a pity they didnt have it this weekend.....then they could have invited some of our olympic medallists......katie and john joe would have been at it.....thats a cert......
By:
silvergreaser
When: 12 Aug 12 15:48
What jobs did McManus ever create?, he buys horses to pursue a hobby, easy to buy horses when you're saving millions every year by been a tax exile, easy to contribute to charities when you're saving millions every year as a tax exile, basically its mere pocket money to this insincere tax exile.
Wasn't that party a who's who of goverment rogues, Ahern, McCreevy and that despicable Lowry?.
By:
irish_guy_13
When: 12 Aug 12 15:55
westlife were the entertainment...... no thanks.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 12 Aug 12 15:57
Gant probably drove O'Rourke and a few others from his neck of the woods down to it. Btw what was the party in aid of?
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 15:59
A fundraiser for Limerick FC.
By:
bobbybocala
When: 12 Aug 12 16:00
it was no fundraiser.....it was in memory of a dead horse......
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 12 Aug 12 18:27
Yeah this job Myth is a bit bizarre tbh, its his hobby. He keeps a lot of horses in training not because he cares for the economy but purely selfish reasons which is fine.
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 12 Aug 12 18:28
The evening started with a drinks reception at 6.30 as hundreds of cases of Dom Perignon champagne were cracked open for arriving guests who mingled in splendid sunshine on the immaculately manicured grounds of Mr McManus's estate.

"The bill for the drink alone would bail out a small country," said one guest.
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 12 Aug 12 18:30
The gold-crusted invitations issued by Mr McManus and his wife Noreen requested guests celebrate the two horses' success.

Man of earth right there. Gold Crusted invitations
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 18:37
I wish I had a hobby that keeps a large number of people in work.
Our builders did these big parties for years and handed us a large bill.
By:
lustrumm
When: 12 Aug 12 18:55
Going to be an Annual event by all accounts.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 12 Aug 12 19:08
Gant if McManus didn't buy those horses someone else would've, the fact is every owner has to pay training fees which indirectly funds racing stables, he didn't buy those horses to keep people in a job but to have fun with his tax exile savings.
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 19:15
Plenty of yards in this country are glad he is having fun and paying his training fees.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 12 Aug 12 19:24
Fair enough gant, but it wasn't any philantropy on his behalf it was just a very rich man indulging in his favourite hobby.
McManus might be the most prolific owner, but he's buying almost recklessly in the hope he unearths the odd superstar and don't forget he has the financial clout to prevent other owners and potential rivals from requiring these horses, so in effect its a subtle form of bullying, its certainly not any bleeding heart for the plight of the lowly paid stable staff.

Does McManus give a christmas bonus to all the stable staff working in the stables he has horses in training with, sounds like those lavish parties could easily fund that?.
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 19:46
The staff are the responsibility of the person they work for........his fees should be enough but he is known to fund a session or 2.
By:
silvergreaser
When: 12 Aug 12 19:49
So we agree then gant he employs nobody?
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 12 Aug 12 19:52
McManus own so many horses purely for Gambling purposes I would imagine.
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 20:00
I am sure he employs many people in various ventures across the country......in the racing industry he is keeping people in work.

So if he employs nobody you will surely agree then that the tax exile thing is exagerated.
By:
GANT007
When: 12 Aug 12 20:01
Ruby.........I see your rich owner got rid of a fair few screws during the week at doncaster.
By:
Rocketfingers
When: 12 Aug 12 20:07
Gant getting very sore if people dare takle the FF mafia
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 12 Aug 12 20:17
He did finally started to cut the rubbish. Waste of time and money.
By:
G Hall
When: 12 Aug 12 22:19
remember the bullying of saf over rock of g
By:
kavvie
When: 12 Aug 12 22:58
bullying saf?ur surely having a laugh.he tried the bullying and soon realised he was dealing with the wrong people!!
By:
kingrat
When: 13 Aug 12 00:43
what happened ruby?did u not get invitedLaugh
By:
kingrat
When: 13 Aug 12 00:52
mcmanus is the type of geezer if i was marking,i would break him up,a parasite!Wink
By:
Arklearkle
When: 13 Aug 12 12:34
To be fair JP does a lot of good but if I paid no taxes I could own a horse or two also. I am sure there are thousands of others who could and would love to do likewise. This insincere low-profile cr@p gets on my goat tbh.
By:
winnings
When: 14 Aug 12 09:10
i am sure e bolger was no 1 on the list maybe celebrating fearless leaders life
By:
rubyisgodinthesaddle
When: 14 Aug 12 19:32
I wasn't Kingrat very disappointed. Mind you if I was I prob be restrained for trying to steal Istrabraq when the Dinner was going on!
By:
Vubiant
When: 15 Aug 12 12:36
Did yiz all see the report in the IT lately about the  following ?
It appears there's a company called Castlebeck which owns a private hospital Winterbourne View in Bristol.
A BBC Panorama programme uncovered a litany of abuse there including such as
-beating patients with autism and learning difficulties
-dousing them in water
-encouraging some to commit suicide
( 11 former staff are awaiting sentence after pleading guilty to the above)

A Serious Case Review group examined matters and found that ....

'Castlebeck appears to have made decisions about profitability,including shareholder returns,over and above decisions about the effective and humane delivery of assessment ,treatment and rehabilitation.
It is clear that at critical points in the wretched history of Winterbourne View,
key decisions about priorities were taken by Castlebeck which impaired the ability of the hospital to improve the mental health and physical health and wellbeing of the patients '

The investors said they were 'shocked and appalled and determined this will never happen again'.

Oh yes , who were the investors I hear you ask ...
Well they numbered among their ranks
Mr. D Brosnan
Mr. J Magnier
Mr. D Desmond and
Mr. J P McManus ...almsgiver and philanthropist extraordinaire. ( Ta-da! )
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